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stephenkirsh
12-15-2013, 06:15 PM
So my BMW mechanic who makes house calls on the side mentioned it's possible to put M3 LCA bushings on the non-M to help improve caster. My LCA bushings are shot and need to be replaced, so I'm thinking about doing this maybe.

Does anybody have any experience with this?

I know ECS Tuning sells Z4M bushings as advertised for the e46, but they don't quite look the same as normal LCA bushings… maybe you pop out the middle or something? I dunno

http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E46-330i-M54_3.0L/Suspension/Bushings/Control_Arm/ES48907/

danewilson77
12-15-2013, 07:04 PM
Mmm... Don't know about that one.

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Hermes
12-15-2013, 07:06 PM
Yes, you press the old one out and press these offset ones in. There is another PN where they are already installed on the lollipop, but I just bought them raw and had them pressed in

I believe the ones on the Z4M are the same bushing as the M3, but don't quote me on that

Edit: per realoem they are not

Edit2: pn w/lollipop

Left 31 10 7 836 862
Right 31 10 7 836 863

danewilson77
12-15-2013, 08:07 PM
Looks like you'd have to press them in perfectly, correct?

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Hermes
12-15-2013, 08:19 PM
Yes, I had Carl do it for me. He owns an E30 M3 (also has offset bushings) so I'm sure he knows how they are supposed to be set

Johal E32
12-15-2013, 08:49 PM
I recommend you buy pre pressed bushings.

E46 M3 bushings I don't think will fit.. But Z4M bushings increase castor and will fit.

Newjack
12-16-2013, 08:05 AM
I recommend you buy pre pressed bushings.

E46 M3 bushings I don't think will fit.. But Z4M bushings increase castor and will fit.

I'm running Z4M bushings that I bought from ECS. I bought them with them already installed in the bracket for easy install. They work great. As far as adjusting castor? I'm not sure, I had camber plates installed right after to get back to normal alignment (I installed an H&R touring cup kit which lowered the car at the same time I did bushings.)

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Hornung418
12-16-2013, 11:53 AM
Castor increases move the wheel further towards the front of the car.

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Newjack
12-16-2013, 01:36 PM
Castor increases move the wheel further towards the front of the car.

Sent from my GS3.

Derp.

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stephenkirsh
12-22-2013, 04:24 PM
E46 M3 bushings I don't think will fit.. But Z4M bushings increase castor and will fit.

Can anybody confirm/deny this?

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If I do go w/ the M3 ones, are these the ones to get?
right: http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E46-M3-S54_3.2L/Suspension/Bushings/Control_Arm/ES49173/
left: http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E46-M3-S54_3.2L/Suspension/Bushings/Control_Arm/ES49172/

Johal E32
12-22-2013, 05:32 PM
Z4M fcabs will 100% sure fit into your current control arms.

Hermes
12-22-2013, 05:34 PM
Can anybody confirm/deny this?

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If I do go w/ the M3 ones, are these the ones to get?
right: http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E46-M3-S54_3.2L/Suspension/Bushings/Control_Arm/ES49173/
left: http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E46-M3-S54_3.2L/Suspension/Bushings/Control_Arm/ES49172/

They won't work per this thread

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=976845

Just buy the Z4M ones like the rest of us have done

stephenkirsh
12-23-2013, 12:19 PM
Gotcha. Thanks

stephenkirsh
12-24-2013, 05:16 PM
Looks like ECS doesn't sell them pushed in, so here's turner. These are the right ones?

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-19950-front-control-arm-bushing-left-e85-z4-m-roadster-m-coupe.aspx

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-54039-front-control-arm-bushing-right-e85-z4-m-roadster-m-coupe.aspx

Hermes
12-24-2013, 05:19 PM
Those look right. I posted the part number in post #3

stephenkirsh
12-24-2013, 05:44 PM
That was two weeks ago! I can't remember things like that!! :P

Thanks

Hermes
12-24-2013, 06:19 PM
You're too young to be forgetting things yet

stephenkirsh
12-24-2013, 08:13 PM
That was finals week for the last semester of my MBA, while working full time. That's my excuse :)