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Smilez
08-08-2014, 04:19 AM
I know some of us hate trying to mount are wheels, trying to align them up with our butts on the floor and legs adjusting the wheel. Well, I sell stud conversion in different sizes to accommodate your needs.

http://www.brakeyourself.com/image/cache/data/copyStuds-500x500.jpg

-44mm: Can be used with no spacers.
Studs alone $56 for front and rear set

-57mm: Can be used with 12mm spacers.
Studs alone $63 for front and rear set

-80mm: Can be used with 20mm spacers
Studs alone $73 for front and rear set

ADD LUG NUTS:
$8 for Silver
$25 for Black
$32 for Silver or Black Closed End Conical Turner-Lock Nuts

Made in Europe by OEM
10.9 Grade hardness
Silver or Black Zinc finish
Allen Key insert for easy install
Bullet Nose Studs are Certified by ISO/TS 16949 and ISO 9001 by TÜV

Need something "Cooler"

Check out these Race Nuts

$78
http://www.brakeyourself.com/image/cache/data/17mm%20MH%20Titan%20Cold%20Forged%20Alloy%20Steel% 20Race%20nuts%2012%C3%971.5%203-500x500.jpg
http://www.brakeyourself.com/image/cache/data/17mm%20MH%20Titan%20Cold%20Forged%20Alloy%20Steel% 20Race%20nuts%2012%C3%971.5%202-500x500.jpg
http://www.brakeyourself.com/image/cache/data/17mm%20MH%20Titan%20Cold%20Forged%20Alloy%20Steel% 20Race%20nuts%2012%C3%971.5-500x500.jpg


I also do carry "race stud conversion" Starting at $90

Perfect for Track/Race applications!
Certified by ISO/TS 16949 and ISO 9001 by TÜV
Fast start nut installation
12×1.5 Thread
Made in Europe by OEM
OEM Style Black Zinc Finish
Allen Key insert for easy install
10.9 grade hardness

wrigleybm3
08-08-2014, 04:58 AM
Very Cool! I have a stud kit already, but those Black motorsport race nuts look awesome!! If and when I install my stud conversion, I may have to look into that.
GLWS on these fine products sir.

Smilez
08-08-2014, 05:01 AM
Thank you I really appreciate it.

Ray

johnrando
08-08-2014, 07:11 AM
Those look great! Any pics of the studs on 135 wheels?

Smilez
08-08-2014, 07:49 AM
Those look great! Any pics of the studs on 135 wheels?


http://www.brakeyourself.com/image/cache/data/WHEELSTUD%20CONVERSION%203-500x500.jpg
http://www.brakeyourself.com/image/cache/data/WHEELSTUD%20CONVERSION-500x500.jpg

az3579
08-08-2014, 08:30 AM
Perfect for Track/Race applications!
Certified by ISO/TS 16949 and ISO 9001 by TÜV
Fast start nut installation
12×1.5 Thread
Made in Europe by OEM
OEM Style Black Zinc Finish
Allen Key insert for easy install
10.9 grade hardness

I am intrigued... what is the difference between the "race" set versus the other sets you offer?
I've always been hesitant to get stud kits mainly because of my track usage; I keep fearing they'll break in one way or another. If this kit is specifically for track usage, what makes them better?

cakM3
08-08-2014, 08:41 AM
I am intrigued... what is the difference between the "race" set versus the other sets you offer?
I've always been hesitant to get stud kits mainly because of my track usage; I keep fearing they'll break in one way or another. If this kit is specifically for track usage, what makes them better?

BP....as much as you change out your wheels...you should have done this a long time ago!

Smilez
08-08-2014, 08:53 AM
I am intrigued... what is the difference between the "race" set versus the other sets you offer?
I've always been hesitant to get stud kits mainly because of my track usage; I keep fearing they'll break in one way or another. If this kit is specifically for track usage, what makes them better?

The difference is the type of material is used. It's at a higher grade and they also come in black. As i quote they are "Certified by ISO/TS 16949 and ISO 9001 by TÜV"

WOLFN8TR
08-08-2014, 08:55 AM
Hey Ray where are the Black MotorSports Wheel locks on your website?

Smilez
08-08-2014, 08:56 AM
Hey Ray where are the Black MotorSports Wheel locks on your website?

Not on there. give me a sec. I'll install them.

found them :shifty

http://www.brakeyourself.com/Spacers/Wheel-Lock

HokieZHP
08-08-2014, 09:00 AM
So I've been thinking of getting studs now that I have wheels on my 335i. Do the studs really have to be replaced every year?

WOLFN8TR
08-08-2014, 09:02 AM
Roger that. :thumbsup

ryankokesh
08-08-2014, 09:02 AM
http://www.brakeyourself.com/image/cache/data/WHEELSTUD%20CONVERSION%203-500x500.jpg
http://www.brakeyourself.com/image/cache/data/WHEELSTUD%20CONVERSION-500x500.jpg

Sweet pics! :biggrin

Love the studs on the 135s. I thought it'd look a little weird at first, but I'm very glad I made the conversion.

ryankokesh
08-08-2014, 09:03 AM
So I've been thinking of getting studs now that I have wheels on my 335i. Do the studs really have to be replaced every year?

I think that's more if you're constantly tracking it. Otherwise, I've read they should be a lifetime part.

Smilez
08-08-2014, 09:03 AM
So I've been thinking of getting studs now that I have wheels on my 335i. Do the studs really have to be replaced every year?

Negative. However, I would tighten them every one in a while make sure they don't start coming out.

Smilez
08-08-2014, 09:04 AM
Roger that. :thumbsup

http://www.brakeyourself.com/Spacers/Wheel-Lock

jakksfor20
08-08-2014, 09:32 AM
I am tempted to buy some (MSHardware version) for my car every time I have to touch them on the Chumpcar. Sooooooooooooooo nice!!!!!!

WOLFN8TR
08-08-2014, 09:55 AM
http://www.brakeyourself.com/Spacers/Wheel-Lock

Sweet! When I get some new rims I will be going with the Stud Conversion. Thanks Ray!

Smilez
08-08-2014, 10:08 AM
NOT A PROBLEM!!!!

Ray

BCS_ZHP
08-08-2014, 12:26 PM
Sweet! When I get some new rims I will be going with the Stud Conversion. Thanks Ray!

Do it before you get the new wheels, it'll make mounting those new wheels so much easier.

WOLFN8TR
08-08-2014, 02:38 PM
Do it before you get the new wheels, it'll make mounting those new wheels so much easier.

That is true, good advice. :cheers

derbo
08-08-2014, 03:10 PM
Negative. However, I would tighten them every one in a while make sure they don't start coming out.

If you use red-loctite, you should not need to do this.

az3579
08-08-2014, 05:24 PM
If you use red-loctite, you should not need to do this.

Then they'll never come out... Not good if you have to replace one.

derbo
08-08-2014, 05:43 PM
Then they'll never come out... Not good if you have to replace one.

I use bimmerworld race bulletnose wheel studs and it had dri-loc on them. I removed them with the two-nut method and it worked out fine. I also had to remove a red loctite stud on a friend's car and I had no trouble with hand tools to remove them without heat.

az3579
08-08-2014, 05:45 PM
I use bimmerworld race bulletnose wheel studs and it had dri-loc on them. I removed them with the two-nut method and it worked out fine. I also had to remove a red loctite stud on a friend's car and I had no trouble with hand tools to remove them without heat.

I thought red Loctite practically welds them in place...

Hornung418
08-08-2014, 05:49 PM
I thought red Loctite practically welds them in place...

Just increases the friction coefficient between the two materials. Natural vibrations won't loosen them. But they can be removed with hand or power tools.

Sent from my GS3.

az3579
08-08-2014, 05:50 PM
Just increases the friction coefficient between the two materials. Natural vibrations won't loosen them. But they can be removed with hand or power tools.

Sent from my GS3.

Thanks for the clarification.

If I get the race studs from Ray, would I need to Loctite them?

BCS_ZHP
08-08-2014, 06:30 PM
Thanks for the clarification.

If I get the race studs from Ray, would I need to Loctite them?

BP,
You install the studs using red loctite, and they will definitely hold fast. If you ever need to remove one, you apply heat which loosens the loctite's holding ability and then it removes easily.
Bruce

HokieZHP
08-08-2014, 08:37 PM
BP,
You install the studs using red loctite, and they will definitely hold fast. If you ever need to remove one, you apply heat which loosens the loctite's holding ability and then it removes easily.
Bruce

Good to know. Been contemplating studs for my new wheels..

derbo
08-08-2014, 09:21 PM
i <3 studs. Never have to worry about wheel spacers having the right length bolts. and lining up the wheel is so easy! :)

Smilez
08-31-2014, 02:10 PM
Bumpity bump

Ps working on getting suspensions. Kw etc.

Johnmadd
08-31-2014, 03:29 PM
Ray, do you have 4 to 5 lug adapter access?

Smilez
08-31-2014, 03:42 PM
Sorry those I do not ? Why?

Johnmadd
08-31-2014, 05:27 PM
Because I have wheels in my yard that won't go on the zhp and would work well on the e30 if they were 4 lug instead of 5. #4lugdreamer

Smilez
08-31-2014, 08:23 PM
ahhh. yeah only spacers buddy.

az3579
09-01-2014, 06:59 AM
Because I have wheels in my yard that won't go on the zhp and would work well on the e30 if they were 4 lug instead of 5. #4lugdreamer

From what I understand, the safety of those adapters is in question...
I did a ton of research on this back in my E30 days and the general consensus was that people refused to run them because of the potential of them breaking, or something like that. It is one of those things that nobody actually took the time to test, but the track guys were extremely against them, so I went with their opinion (better safe than sorry).

Sorry I can't provide any actual facts though; unfortunately there isn't much real information on the subject.

Johnmadd
09-01-2014, 10:01 AM
From what I understand, the safety of those adapters is in question...
I did a ton of research on this back in my E30 days and the general consensus was that people refused to run them because of the potential of them breaking, or something like that. It is one of those things that nobody actually took the time to test, but the track guys were extremely against them, so I went with their opinion (better safe than sorry).

Sorry I can't provide any actual facts though; unfortunately there isn't much real information on the subject.

Yeah, I've read the same stuff but figured if Ray sold them they had to be good.

Smilez
09-01-2014, 02:23 PM
Are you emplying I don't sell crappy products :P

ELCID86
09-09-2014, 02:39 PM
Interested. Will PM you.


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danewilson77
09-09-2014, 05:01 PM
You can get Muteki, right?

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Smilez
09-09-2014, 05:20 PM
Actually Dane I can.

danewilson77
09-09-2014, 05:24 PM
Copy. That's what I have now and am super happy. May wanna change up colors though.

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Smilez
09-09-2014, 05:28 PM
They just come from different supplier.

cakM3
09-09-2014, 05:33 PM
i <3 studs. Never have to worry about wheel spacers having the right length bolts. and lining up the wheel is so easy! :)

+1
So right!

ELCID86
09-09-2014, 05:50 PM
Just ordered a set from Ray! *New* wheels are here and tires were delivered to costco today.


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Smilez
09-10-2014, 12:16 PM
Yes you did. ;)

danewilson77
09-10-2014, 02:15 PM
Win. Nice choice Shawn.

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Smilez
10-15-2014, 05:33 AM
Bumpity bump

ELCID86
10-15-2014, 06:08 AM
Win. Nice choice Shawn.

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Thanks. A few pics (pardon the dust :)

16008

16009


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Smilez
10-15-2014, 06:16 AM
little poke going on there :shifty

slater
10-15-2014, 07:17 AM
shawn, you've got some spacers! what are you running?

peter

ELCID86
10-15-2014, 07:53 AM
shawn, you've got some spacers! what are you running?

peter

Who me :ducking

15mm on rears. Nothing on the front (235/40 on 18x8.5 square setup). Too much??

slater
10-15-2014, 08:43 AM
Who me :ducking

15mm on rears. Nothing on the front (235/40 on 18x8.5 square setup). Too much??

LOL. looks good!

i am running 10mm front and 12.5mm rear, stock wheel sizes - to my eyes, it looks very even front/rear, which i like. do your rears stick out a lot further than the fronts?

peter

ELCID86
10-15-2014, 07:29 PM
LOL. looks good!

i am running 10mm front and 12.5mm rear, stock wheel sizes - to my eyes, it looks very even front/rear, which i like. do your rears stick out a lot further than the fronts?

peter

A tad more. I'll take more pics when I get home from Denver.


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WOLFN8TR
10-16-2014, 11:15 AM
Looks good with the spacers. [emoji106]

cakM3
10-17-2014, 09:18 AM
Looks good Shawn! I used to run with 12.5mm spacers on my rear wheels but was getting too much rubbing on stock tire sizes so I went with 10mm spacers instead. Currently have 10mm spacers at all 4 corners w/o any rubbing :thumbsup

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/10/18/ara9e3yv.jpg

Smilez
10-17-2014, 09:25 AM
is that condom wrapper toward the bottom? :shifty

ELCID86
10-17-2014, 02:27 PM
Looks good Shawn! I used to run with 12.5mm spacers on my rear wheels but was getting too much rubbing on stock tire sizes so I went with 10mm spacers instead. Currently have 10mm spacers at all 4 corners w/o any rubbing :thumbsup

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/10/18/ara9e3yv.jpg

You are quite a bit lower than my stock shocks. Square or staggered rims?


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CarbonZHP
10-23-2014, 08:57 AM
How much for black 75mm by themselves?

Smilez
10-23-2014, 09:10 AM
How much for black 75mm by themselves?

$100 without nuts. The black ones are "race" studs that are a higher grade :P

CarbonZHP
10-23-2014, 09:14 AM
Alright. Right now I care more about the look than the quality. Lol

Smilez
10-23-2014, 09:21 AM
haha. well you get better look with better quality :P

cakM3
10-24-2014, 07:43 AM
You are quite a bit lower than my stock shocks. Square or staggered rims?


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Running stock staggered wheels Shawn :)

mbeckel
10-27-2014, 04:31 PM
Bumpity bump. Stud conversion well worth it! Hit up Ray, he'll hook it up
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/27/7e6357663522959dcf8fb0773a4bc52c.jpg

danewilson77
10-27-2014, 04:48 PM
Agree

[emoji316]

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CarbonZHP
10-28-2014, 09:54 AM
Smilez, would black studs without nuts be an option?

Smilez
10-28-2014, 09:57 AM
YUP. I Can do that too. $100 without nuts as previously stated.

zhp05jb
11-03-2014, 06:53 AM
Smilez,

When you say race studs are "higher" grade, are they stronger than the standard studs?
Also, I will be running 12.5mm and 15mm spacers front & rear on my car, so I'll need 80mm set, correct?

Thanks.

Joono

Smilez
11-03-2014, 07:55 AM
Smilez,

When you say race studs are "higher" grade, are they stronger than the standard studs?
Also, I will be running 12.5mm and 15mm spacers front & rear on my car, so I'll need 80mm set, correct?

Thanks.

Joono

non race:

Made in Europe by OEM
10.9 Grade hardness
Silver Zinc finish
80mm Studs can take up to 25mm spacers

"race"
Certified by ISO/TS 16949 and ISO 9001 by TÜV
Fast start nut installation
12×1.5 Thread
Made in Europe
OEM Style Black Zinc Finish
Bullet Nose
Allen Key insert for easy install
10.9 grade hardness
82mm Studs will accept up to a 20mm spacer


80MM+ should be more than enough :D

zhp05jb
11-05-2014, 02:39 PM
So the black color is only for the race studs right? Then how much is the 82mm black race stud conversion kit? And that size should work with both 12mm and 15mm spacers, correct?

Thanks.

Smilez
11-05-2014, 02:56 PM
So the black color is only for the race studs right? Then how much is the 82mm black race stud conversion kit? And that size should work with both 12mm and 15mm spacers, correct?

Thanks.

$130 free shipping. And will fit for both sizes.

Smilez
11-27-2014, 10:22 PM
So you know racing studs I sell are no joke.

LivesNearCostco
11-27-2014, 11:12 PM
Is that Amir's car, the guy who works for Avus Autosport and runs with ExtremeSpeed Track Events?

mbeckel
11-28-2014, 06:05 AM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/28/e33c45c641b927be974aa02512706119.jpg

Buy these studs now!

Sent from in the bushes

ELCID86
11-28-2014, 07:12 AM
Buy these studs now!

Sent from in the bushes

Yep!


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Smilez
11-28-2014, 07:18 AM
Is that Amir's car, the guy who works for Avus Autosport and runs with ExtremeSpeed Track Events?


Yup Amir ride. Love that guy.

LivesNearCostco
12-04-2014, 01:11 PM
Just ordered the 90mm race studs from Ray. My E36 is using the old 75mm "standard" (aka "bargain") BimmerWorld studs that were originally on my ZHP. They've done fine but are 3.5 years old and had a few years of track days on them. Five of them have been installed 3 times (one wheel got a bearing change on the ZHP last year) and I was probably over-torquing them each time, which risks cutting into them with the hub threads and creating stress risers. Plus they are just barely long enough for 12mm spacers I recently tried. So time to upgrade them.

At my last track day I saw a guy lose a wheel and go off into the dirt. In his case he broke 5 extended lug bolts, not studs, but still don't want to take chances.

mbeckel
12-04-2014, 01:28 PM
Just ordered the 90mm race studs from Ray. My E36 is using the old 75mm "standard" (aka "bargain") BimmerWorld studs that were originally on my ZHP. They've done fine but are 3.5 years old and had a few years of track days on them. Five of them have been installed 3 times (one wheel got a bearing change on the ZHP last year) and I was probably over-torquing them each time, which risks cutting into them with the hub threads and creating stress risers. Plus they are just barely long enough for 12mm spacers I recently tried. So time to upgrade them.

At my last track day I saw a guy lose a wheel and go off into the dirt. In his case he broke 5 extended lug bolts, not studs, but still don't want to take chances.
Nice purchase! Are you getting the Allen head studs?

Sent from in the bushes

LivesNearCostco
12-04-2014, 07:28 PM
I think so. Bullet-nose race studs can be found both with smooth nose and with an allen key socket. The 82mm ones I have from BimmerWorld have a smooth bullet nose so you install them with a double-nut technique, Which is a bit of a chore but I've had some practice now having installed studs 3 times that way. (The first set I bought had 5mm or 5.5mm hex holes but not cut properly, so most of them could not be tightened with a hex wrench or socket.) I think the ones I'm getting from Ray accept an allen wrench. Which should greatly ease installation!

Tnhl1989
12-04-2014, 07:57 PM
Ordered can't wait for it to come in.

mbeckel
12-05-2014, 06:53 AM
I think so. Bullet-nose race studs can be found both with smooth nose and with an allen key socket. The 82mm ones I have from BimmerWorld have a smooth bullet nose so you install them with a double-nut technique, Which is a bit of a chore but I've had some practice now having installed studs 3 times that way. (The first set I bought had 5mm or 5.5mm hex holes but not cut properly, so most of them could not be tightened with a hex wrench or socket.) I think the ones I'm getting from Ray accept an allen wrench. Which should greatly ease installation!
The Allen head studs are a piece of cake to install. Took me only a few minutes to complete. Longest part is getting the car in the air

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danewilson77
12-05-2014, 12:31 PM
The Allen head studs are a piece of cake to install. Took me only a few minutes to complete. Longest part is getting the car in the air

Sent from in the bushes

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LivesNearCostco
12-05-2014, 12:46 PM
That's great news, but I still have to double nut the existing ones to get them out. I over-torqued them on installation and used imitation red Loctite. I used to think they needed to be torqued to 60 foot-lbs but now hear they only need 20-30 foot-lbs to install (one site said only 16 foot-lbs). Over-torquing history is another reason to replace them with new ones.

The instructions for the Turner Motorsport wheel studs and they said don't use the allen wrench to remove studs installed with red thread locker. Maybe that rule doesn't apply if you uninstall with heat.

Smilez
01-22-2015, 09:50 AM
BUMP :D

cakM3
01-22-2015, 10:21 AM
Wheel stud conversion???

I say yes!!!! Do it :thumbsup

ItsMeScottG
01-22-2015, 01:23 PM
I'd be interested in a black set of these. Ones that are meant for stock setup without spacers.

ELCID86
01-22-2015, 04:45 PM
I'd be interested in a black set of these. Ones that are meant for stock setup without spacers.

You will like them. I think you can put small spacers on with them if you changed your mind


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CarbonZHP
01-22-2015, 08:03 PM
I was under the impression he didnt have 44mm black studs? I believe those are the ones hes referring to

Smilez
01-23-2015, 05:31 AM
I'd be interested in a black set of these. Ones that are meant for stock setup without spacers.

I have two options for you (44mm studs w/ nuts)
- Silver Stud with black nuts
$81
or
- Black Race Studs with black nuts
$115

ryankokesh
01-23-2015, 09:24 AM
I have two options for you (44mm studs w/ nuts)
- Silver Stud with black nuts
$81
or
- Black Race Studs with black nuts
$115

I endorse these nuts :hawaiian

Smilez
04-09-2015, 07:33 AM
bumpity bump

Smilez
05-06-2015, 05:15 AM
BUMPITY BUMP BUMP

Smilez
05-12-2015, 06:43 AM
BUMP

Smilez
09-21-2015, 08:18 AM
BUMP