Bluetooth audio

[Asiah119]

I've been getting a little tired of wrestling with my current DICE controler to do music off of my old iphone and want to make the upgrade to something that has bluetooth, and a usb so I can charge my cell and run music off of pandora\google play\whatever else. I've seen the DICE Mediabridge, and then the bavsound soundplicity III. They look like the same hardware. Is there something that makes the bavsound product better or is it just the name?

Also. I'm not really interested in the handsfree phone stuff. I have the OE nav that can do that already and I'm rarely on the phone, especially in the car. So having that is in no way a selling point for me.

I appreciate any advice\insight anyone can offer.

[derbo]

I've been getting a little tired of wrestling with my current DICE controler to do music off of my old iphone and want to make the upgrade to something that has bluetooth, and a usb so I can charge my cell and run music off of pandora\google play\whatever else. I've seen the DICE Mediabridge, and then the bavsound soundplicity III. They look like the same hardware. Is there something that makes the bavsound product better or is it just the name?

Also. I'm not really interested in the handsfree phone stuff. I have the OE nav that can do that already and I'm rarely on the phone, especially in the car. So having that is in no way a selling point for me.

I appreciate any advice\insight anyone can offer.

You can buy a 30pin Bluetooth adapter and modify yours to become Bluetooth :)

[Asiah119]

You can buy a 30pin Bluetooth adapter and modify yours to become Bluetooth :)

I dont use my iphone for anything other than music in my car, or if I'm away from a charger and my s3 battery is dead.

From what i can tell, all three of these products are the same thing, minus brand.
http://www.ecstuning.com/News/BMW_DICE_Mediabridge_Multimedia_Integration_Satell ite_DSP_iPod_Radio_Bluetooth_NAV_SAT_3_5_7_series_ X3_X5_Z3_Z4_1996_1997_1998_1999_2000_2001_2002_200 3_2004_2005_2006_2007_2008_2009_2010/

http://www.bavsound.com/Device-Integration/

http://www.amazon.com/Audiovox-AMBR-1500-BMW-MediaBridge-Bluetooth-Cooper/dp/B0078S8T8W/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

is there a difference that I'm missing?

[derbo]

How many devices are you trying to sync to the interface?

I personally would get a USB charger for the cig lighter and a 30pin bluetooth adapter for the DICE kit so it can connect to whichever device you want. It's the most cost effective solution for you at this point and shouldn't cost you more than $50 tops.

[Asiah119]

I actually have a cig lighter usb and in some confluence of events it seems incapable of adding power faster than my phone uses it. I dont know if it is a shitty adapter, the cable is bad, or my phone is bad, but something isnt happy in that mix. In my wife's car, (using the same adapter) screen off, playing music over google play the battery still discharges, or barely holds on to the charge it had when I plugged in.

The plan is to just use my S3 for music and not use the iphone anymore.

[Rovert]

I just bought this:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GZGQBTM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51aiulubdCL._SL1500_.jpg

...And I left it connected to my OEM AUX in cable routed to my glove box. I have the OEM flashlight port to 12 volt plug adapter installed and USB power connected to that:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31SVbNThmKL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Then I just have power routed to my phone if I need it charged and whenever I unlock the car, it powers up the flashlight port which turns on the bluetooth audio receiver which connects to my phone. The sound is just like I had the phone plugged in but wireless! #Ghettomods LOL

[derbo]

I actually have a cig lighter usb and in some confluence of events it seems incapable of adding power faster than my phone uses it. I dont know if it is a shitty adapter, the cable is bad, or my phone is bad, but something isnt happy in that mix. In my wife's car, (using the same adapter) screen off, playing music over google play the battery still discharges, or barely holds on to the charge it had when I plugged in.

The plan is to just use my S3 for music and not use the iphone anymore.

I believe its your USB charger. It needs to be 1A and above. USB is only rated at 500mA but since the iphone came around, every phone needs at minimal 1A charger to be used and charged at the same time.

Rovert has the right idea. :) I think I might move my AUX to the glove now and do the same.

[az3579]

I believe its your USB charger. It needs to be 1A and above. USB is only rated at 500mA but since the iphone came around, every phone needs at minimal 1A charger to be used and charged at the same time.

Rovert has the right idea. :) I think I might move my AUX to the glove now and do the same.

I have a USB port on mine that is rated at 2.1A. I can put on my phone with GPS, plug in the power, and STILL have it discharge. :shifty

[derbo]

I have a USB port on mine that is rated at 2.1A. I can put on my phone with GPS, plug in the power, and STILL have it discharge. :shifty


Have you tried checking how much the phone is actually drawing from the 2.1A usb charger? I have a 2.1A charger and my phone pulls about 1.2A from the charger. When I turn on my GPS, and play pandora, the current pulling from the charger drops to about 200mA. it's still positive so the battery continues to charge. If the temperature of my phone exceeds I believe 100F, it starts to pull less and go into the negatives.

From my understanding, the phone needs a specific USB cable to draw the proper amount from the charger. There are some chargers I noticed, that the phone does not pull the 1.2A and just pulls 500mA even with nothing on.

[az3579]

Have you tried checking how much the phone is actually drawing from the 2.1A usb charger? I have a 2.1A charger and my phone pulls about 1.2A from the charger. When I turn on my GPS, and play pandora, the current pulling from the charger drops to about 200mA. it's still positive so the battery continues to charge. If the temperature of my phone exceeds I believe 100F, it starts to pull less and go into the negatives.

From my understanding, the phone needs a specific USB cable to draw the proper amount from the charger. There are some chargers I noticed, that the phone does not pull the 1.2A and just pulls 500mA even with nothing on.

Interesting. All of the cables I've been using (went through a few of them) were aftermarket cables. I'll try my only Genuine Apple cable and see if it makes a difference. Thanks Derek.

[derbo]

I don't know if there is an app on the iphone that lets you see the actual battery statistics but that would be helpful. I use a kensington 2.1A charger and it pulls the correct amount to my Moto X when I use my motorola cable. The monoprice cable I tried, didn't like it at all.

[Rovert]

Jailbreak + Cydia = Battery Detective.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/26/8afe7885467b1ec9918e9aaba40c5790.jpg

[ELCID86]

I just bought this:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GZGQBTM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


...And I left it connected to my OEM AUX in cable routed to my glove box. I have the OEM flashlight port to 12 volt plug adapter installed and USB power connected to that:



Then I just have power routed to my phone if I need it charged and whenever I unlock the car, it powers up the flashlight port which turns on the bluetooth audio receiver which connects to my phone. The sound is just like I had the phone plugged in but wireless! #Ghettomods LOL
I had not seen this! Nice cheap option.

What is plugged into the DC outlet in the glove box? The phone?

[Rovert]

The cool thing with that device is it turns on and off when power is applied. So many miniature bluetooth receivers have an on/off switch that have to be manually turned on and off because it contains an internal battery. Others won't work when charging at the same time. And others use the same headphone plug to charge so you can either do one or the other.

[az3579]

Trevor - what version of Battery Detective are you running? I'm finding quite a few that are incompatible with iOS7...

EDIT: The only version that would install doesn't work (1.4). :(
What repo can I get it from?

[derbo]

Trevor that glovebox adapter is NLA and people are asking absurd money for that! wtf?!?!?!

[Rovert]

Trevor - what version of Battery Detective are you running? I'm finding quite a few that are incompatible with iOS7...

EDIT: The only version that would install doesn't work (1.4). :(
What repo can I get it from?

iOS: 7.1.2
Repo: repo.insanelyi.com
Software: BatteryDetective v1.4.0-1


Trevor that glovebox adapter is NLA and people are asking absurd money for that! wtf?!?!?!

The part no you want to google search is: 82110004073

I found one here on sale for under $7: http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=AccessoryCatalog&siteid=214320&catalogid=4265&categoryid=87791&startrow=21

You maybe able to find more with just that part no.... :)

[az3579]

Trevor - what version of Battery Detective are you running? I'm finding quite a few that are incompatible with iOS7...

EDIT: The only version that would install doesn't work (1.4). :(
What repo can I get it from?


iOS: 7.1.2
Repo: repo.insanelyi.com
Software: BatteryDetective v1.4.0-1



The part no you want to google search is: 82110004073

I found one here on sale for under $7: http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=AccessoryCatalog&siteid=214320&catalogid=4265&categoryid=87791&startrow=21

You maybe able to find more with just that part no.... :)

Oh crap... I didn't realize they were able to hack iOS7.1 + ... might be time to upgrade...

[derbo]

iOS: 7.1.2
Repo: repo.insanelyi.com
Software: BatteryDetective v1.4.0-1



The part no you want to google search is: 82110004073

I found one here on sale for under $7: http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=AccessoryCatalog&siteid=214320&catalogid=4265&categoryid=87791&startrow=21

You maybe able to find more with just that part no.... :)


Thanks Trevor. I will talk to my old contacts at BMW SF. They might have a few lying around.. :)


yea getbmwparts shows this:


Quick Order
Part Number 82110004073
Part Name FOR BLK/FLSH NEW VEH
***DISCONTINUED AND NO LONGER AVAILABLE. DO NOT ORDER.

[ELCID86]

See nmac9's DIY on how to add a power adapter. I am still not clear what Trevor is plugging into it (I'm old and a bit slow).


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[derbo]

See nmac9's DIY on how to add a power adapter. I am still not clear what Trevor is plugging into it (I'm old and a bit slow).


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If you look in the glovebox, there is a flashlight that directly plugs in.

http://c1552172.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/183418_x600.jpg

[Rovert]

Yup and I plugged in a dually USB car charger in there to plug my ghetto fabulous $10 USB bluetooth receiver for power....then just plugged it into my OEM aux input connection to my OEM headunit which I wired into the glove box to keep things hidden and OEM clean.

OEM Headunit ----> OEM Aux Input ----> male to male audio jack ----> Bluetooth USB Receiver -----> USB Charger -----> OEM Flashlight Aux Power adapter

[derbo]

Yup and I plugged in a dually USB car charger in there to plug my ghetto fabulous $10 USB bluetooth receiver for power....then just plugged it into my OEM aux input connection to my OEM headunit which I wired into the glove box to keep things hidden and OEM clean.

OEM Headunit ----> OEM Aux Input ----> male to male audio jack ----> Bluetooth USB Receiver -----> USB Charger -----> OEM Flashlight Aux Power adapter

Frankly it is ingenius as I was actually looking an easy solution to get a switched power source. The cig lighter is not switched which sucks.

Now to figure out what to do with the big hole in my sunglasses holder in the center console..

[Rovert]

The flashlight port works like this:

Doors unlocked: ON
Doors unlocked with zero interaction (door actuation/trunk actuation/interior lights actuation) after 16 mins: OFF
Doors locked: OFF

[derbo]

The flashlight port works like this:

Doors unlocked: ON
Doors unlocked with zero interaction (door actuation/trunk actuation/interior lights actuation) after 16 mins: OFF
Doors locked: OFF


Time to redo my setup to be like yours Trevor. It will be better than my aux connected to a BT adapter to the cig lighter.

[Hermes]

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/330Ci%20Mysticblau/DEB20EBB-641F-4E0C-B473-36C48AEBFD87.jpg

http://www.gromaudio.com

[Rovert]

GROM is my second choice if this one failed. LOL. I love Grom for steering wheel button functionality and the ability to just use a USB flash drive instead of syncing the phone all the times.

[ELCID86]

If you look in the glovebox, there is a flashlight that directly plugs in.



That part I know --I have one of these flashlight plugs. I wondered what he was powering. It appeared to me the BT device from amazon drew power via the mini-plug and didn't need DC.


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[Asiah119]

I contacted Bavsound yesterday and got a response later in the evening.
The rep said that the hardware is sourced from audiovox, so between Audiovox, DICE, and BavSound there is no difference in the hardware. He said:

From a hardware perspective they're the same piece, which we source from AudioVox. Our software is markedly more stable, however, as we made some iBus communication protocol changes due to overwhelming support issues with the older MediaBridge pieces. Further, we actually support the product.
So it seems like the frustrations that we all have with the DICE units being a pain in the dick might not be the case with BavSound, even though the price is significantly higher.

[ELCID86]

That part I know --I have one of these flashlight plugs. I wondered what he was powering. It appeared to me the BT device from amazon drew power via the mini-plug and didn't need DC.


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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GZGQBTM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I see this in the product specs now:
2. Power supply: 5V USB

I think I'll keep my flashlight plug outlet I bought from Bruce!

[TWong1200]

Seems like this flashlight outlet is no longer available. Anyone know of a place to get one?

[ELCID86]

Bill is selling two.

[derbo]

Bill is selling two.

Time to message Bill!

Shawn, Bill as in (illrep)?

[slater]

Yup and I plugged in a dually USB car charger in there to plug my ghetto fabulous $10 USB bluetooth receiver for power....then just plugged it into my OEM aux input connection to my OEM headunit which I wired into the glove box to keep things hidden and OEM clean.

OEM Headunit ----> OEM Aux Input ----> male to male audio jack ----> Bluetooth USB Receiver -----> USB Charger -----> OEM Flashlight Aux Power adapter


The flashlight port works like this:

Doors unlocked: ON
Doors unlocked with zero interaction (door actuation/trunk actuation/interior lights actuation) after 16 mins: OFF
Doors locked: OFF

trevor - you da man! i just bought the OEM 3.5mm input for the OEM head unit, this solution is perfect!!

peter

[slater]

also... i was thinking about this as well since the 12v adapters are NLA...

http://www.bmw-driver.net/forum/showthread.php?p=660473

looks easy.

peter

[ELCID86]

Time to message Bill!

Shawn, Bill as in (illrep)?
yep

http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?13905-FS-Additional-garage-sale

[derbo]

$100 shipped?!?!

[Rovert]

LOL I need to get in the business of Aux power adapters.

[slater]

$100 shipped?!?!

yep... pretty soon the price of a used flashlight is going to go up. :)

peter

[ELCID86]

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showpost.php?p=15854031&postcount=23724

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=979852

[derbo]

LOL I need to get in the business of Aux power adapters.

I wish my old coworker didnt throw away the 10 I kept in the drawer...

[ELCID86]

:-]

http://bit.ly/1piobso

[TWong1200]

Wow...$100. Crazy. I'll make my own! Just bought a broken one from eBay. Already have the other pieces to finish it.

[derbo]

Time to call in all the contacts at BMWs and see if anyone has one available for sale :)

[slater]

oooh, i like that second one, shawn - clean! only concern would be having enough space to open the fuse box.

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu198/jewdacris113/IMG_20130402_215756.jpg

peter

[ELCID86]

Gary, didn't you put in a DC outlet?


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[derbo]

This thread is going all over the place now hahahahah

[derbo]

I attempted to order a set from the site Trevor posted. Ordered 2 for under 25 -_-

[NorCalZman]

They may come back and tell you they can't get them.


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[Dtownwolfpack]

Hey guys, I'm new and something is not clear to me, will this Bluetooth adapter from amazon be capable of answering phone calls? Or is this just strictly for streaming music? If it is capable, what do I do about a microphone? Or do all of you have the oem Bluetooth hooked up for phone calls and just add this for streaming? Thanks!

Dtownwolfpack

[ELCID86]

I have not confirmed but it should work like the aux jack does. Incoming voice over car speakers and your transmission out via the phone mic.


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[Rovert]

Let me check that today guys. I know that device is supposedly only for audio streaming with no handsfree or headset profile. But I'll confirm how it works when a call is in place.

[derbo]

They may come back and tell you they can't get them.


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That's exactly what happened. I might just make my own adapter. It's basically two prongs to convert to a car power adapter.

[NorCalZman]

Let us know how it goes.

[derbo]

Let us know how it goes.

Should be easy.

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq12/dkeller626/12v_far.jpg

[NorCalZman]

I'll buy one from you :-)

[derbo]

I'll buy one from you :-)

No guarantees on my workmanship. No Refunds hahahaha :)

[ELCID86]

So I just tried it. No go. When I tried a call, the audio is via the phone only. So I had to switch the 5s to speaker (unlike using the aux jack wire direct to phone). Very weird and annoying. I guess you don't get much for $10. The other issue is it won't default back to BT over the device. I have to go back to settings in the phone and connect to it.


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[Rovert]

Mine works to Bluetooth automatic connection. When I get in it's connected. Sometimes it doesn't see it. My quick fix is to unplug and plug it in and voila it works.

You're right about the phone part. It doesn't have phone call abilities.

Guess that's what you get for $10!!

[ELCID86]

Mine works to Bluetooth automatic connection. When I get in it's connected. Sometimes it doesn't see it. My quick fix is to unplug and plug it in and voila it works.

You're right about the phone part. It doesn't have phone call abilities.

Guess that's what you get for $10!!

Trevor, IOS or android?


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[Rovert]

iOS here.

[ELCID86]

iOS here.

Weird. I wonder why I have to go back to settings to reconnect?


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[TWong1200]

Wow...$100. Crazy. I'll make my own! Just bought a broken one from eBay. Already have the other pieces to finish it.


Should be easy.

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq12/dkeller626/12v_far.jpg

I made mine today too. Bought a broken light off of eBay for $6. Had the cig adapter here at home already. Works like a champ.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/01/50da9f4abdcc04f178b342d673d5384d.jpg

[Rovert]

hahah that's awesome! you can sell that custom piece for $300 now!

After having my $10 bluetooth receiver I can say the reliability to connecting to my iPhone when I get into the car automatically is probably about 90%. I'm still trying to figure out why it sometimes doesn't see it. Maybe because of interference, range, or timing out since I have it in my glovebox and sometimes I don't go straight into the car after unlocking, thus turning on the power.

[derbo]

I made mine today too. Bought a broken light off of eBay for $6. Had the cig adapter here at home already. Works like a champ.

[IMG]http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/01/50da9f4abdcc04f178b342d673d5384d.jpg/IMG]

Shoot, I have a working light that I don't mind butchering for this. Time to head to Frys

[NorCalZman]

Someone should post a DIY on how to do it


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[derbo]

Someone should post a DIY on how to do it


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I think it's pretty straight forward. There should be a positive terminal and a negative terminal. I would just connect the DC adapter to both terminals in the flashlight and that should be it.

[NorCalZman]

Hmm. I'll see what I can do then. I know nothing of electronics other than plugging them in.

[derbo]

Hmm. I'll see what I can do then. I know nothing of electronics other than plugging them in.

When you take it apart, just figure out which side is ground on the light and connect that to the ground on the adapter. :)

[Rovert]

If you make the power in parallel with a plug, then you can have a flashlight and 12v power supply all in one! That's worth $500!

[derbo]

If you make the power in parallel with a plug, then you can have a flashlight and 12v power supply all in one! That's worth $500!

Only downfall is that the max current is reduced down depending on the impedance of the flashlight and the power supply.

[tkundhi]

Here are some additional tips. I didn't want to lose my flashlight. Plus as others have mentioned the BMW cig adaptor is NLA. Sure you can build your own or use this option.

I added a second cig adaptor inside the glovebox, leaving the flashlight in place.

My first thought was to use the circuit for the flashlight. The glovebox light and the flashlight are powered by fuse 52. While the glovebox light is switched based upon the door lock status and timer, the circuit itself is always hot. So you can not tap into fuse 52 and get the same functionality described above. Your adaptor will always have power and will cause some battery drain.

Next I simply used a open slot on the top row of fuses. My understanding is the top row are all switched. The bottom row is always hot. I used fuse 13 (rollover protection) since it is unused in non convertibles. This worked fine but it required the key to be in the acc or run position.

So my final setup was to tap the hot wire feeding the flashlight. It is the green/red wire and goes to the bottom pin.

So my Bluetooth solution is as follows. Note my car already had an aux in connector.

Bluetooth adaptor listed above $10
Wire tap $2
Cig lighter $5
Dual port USB cig light adaptor $20

I opted for a dual port adaptor so I could run a Lighting cable to the ashtray to provide iPhone charging. The Bluetooth adaptor and charging cable both power up when the doors are unlocked. They stay powered while the car is running. If you turn off the car and lock the doors the power stops. If you turn off the car and leave it unlocked the power shuts down after 15 min.

t.

[ELCID86]

^pictures?


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[CarbonZHP]

Yes...

[tkundhi]

Pics this weekend.

[tkundhi]

OK, here are the pics. I pulled the glovebox and took pics of the wiring also.

First, there is a correction on the power source. The wire is red/green.
15797

Ground, right side, near the body of the car. Use a small drill bit and the a self threading sheet metal screw.
15798

New cig lighter in glove box. It has a low profile 2 USB charger installed. Bluetooth adaptor is in top slot. That is a standard audio cable coming out of it that goes to my aux input. The second is a standard USB to Lighting cable.
15799

Audio cable going into aux input. Aux input was installed in ashtray by one of the previous owners. I left it there in case I was to connect another source. It is a nice clean install spot. 15800

Other end of the Lighting cable. Also fed through the ashtray.
15801

Everything fits nicely in the ashtray.
15802

The ashtray closes. Here is a pic of music streaming from the iPhone. You have to trust me that it works and sounds good.
15803

HTH someone.

t.

[ryankokesh]

A touch off topic, but does anyone have experience with this bad boy: http://www.amazon.com/AirEnabler-Adapter-Kit-Apple-AirPlay/dp/B00EZWVZ44/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1411962297&sr=8-5&keywords=airplay+receiver

?

[Rovert]

That looks awesome for any mobile device that can airplay. Let's hope the costs come down some.

[tkundhi]

A touch off topic, but does anyone have experience with this bad boy: http://www.amazon.com/AirEnabler-Adapter-Kit-Apple-AirPlay/dp/B00EZWVZ44/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1411962297&sr=8-5&keywords=airplay+receiver

?

I have no direct experience with it. But it appears to setup an open wifi connection. Not sure I'd do that. At home I looks like it can be a client to your existing WiFi network. It is an interesting concept and may have some additional value for some folks but seems like overkill for music in your car.

If you decide to go with it, please share your experience.

t.

[Rovert]

For those who bought that $10 USB bluetooth audio receiver, how is your sound quality? Now that I've used it for a couple months and I experimented by switching back to the audio cable, I'm feeling that bass is slightly more full using wire vs bluetooth. I know our HK systems are not on par with some of the non-optional systems in other vehicles, but switching back to wire made my crappy HK system sound a bit more decent. LOL. I think the change in sound quality from this bluetooth to wire is marginal but you do notice it in the super deep bass...it's not as thuddy. Let me know guys!

[ELCID86]

I don't really notice any poor audio etc. but it's a pain to have to unplug/replug the device every time I get back in the car. Also not having phone audio is not optimal.


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[Rovert]

That's so strange you have to do that. I still only have to do it once out of a dozen times if that. I have a Supertooth speakerphone strapped to my sun visor so calls go straight to that after it pauses music, then unpauses after the call is ended.

[tkundhi]

No audio issues. The iPhone 5S syncs automatically. If the car is driven a couple times without the phone, it becomes necessary to pair the phone again. But that takes 15 sec. I'm looking for BMW Bluetooth module to try and handle phone calls.

Also I'm awaiting a new 30 pin cable for the iSimple setup in the other car. When it arrives I'm going to try a different Bluetooth dongle in that car.


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