Why no M3 set up?

[GOLDNSPOTS]

I'm looking at wheels, and was wondering what is the specific reasons M3 setups won't work, and all the distributors say for non-M only.

I want the wider stance and currently run 265s in the back. I know I could go with a little less ET and haven't even rolled my fenders yet.

Would like to run 255s in front on 8.5s and 275s in rear on 9.5s. Also want a square set up of 255s on 8.5s, and I know that's doable.

[Hornung418]

Well the M3 is basically a different chassis as the body work and subframes are M specific. It also has an entirely different suspension...

Seems pretty obvious. :dunno

Tony? Care to chime in about the Subframe swaps?

Sent from my GS3.

[Avetiso]

90% of the M3 suspension will swap over just fine.

[Hermes]

Get coilovers, run 275 in front

[Crickett]

I'm looking at wheels, and was wondering what is the specific reasons M3 setups won't work, and all the distributors say for non-M only.

I want the wider stance and currently run 265s in the back. I know I could go with a little less ET and haven't even rolled my fenders yet.

Would like to run 255s in front on 8.5s and 275s in rear on 9.5s. Also want a square set up of 255s on 8.5s, and I know that's doable.

This is specifically why:

http://www.willtheyfit.com/wheelimage.php?tyrediameter=635.7&tyrewidth=255&tyrecirc=1997.110447605&wheelwidth=215.9&wheeldia=457.2&offset=50&poke=57.95&inset=157.95&aspect=35&tyrediameter2=661.2&tyrewidth2=255&tyrecirc2=2077.22106018&wheelwidth2=228.6&wheeldia2=457.2&offset2=26&poke2=88.3&inset2=140.3&aspect2=40 (http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php?width=255&aspect=35&diameter=18&wheelwidth=8.5&offset=50&width2=255&aspect2=40&diameter2=18&wheelwidth2=9&offset2=26#content)

A straight, stock-to-stock rear wheel swap will result in the M3 wheel “poking” out 30 mm further than the stock ZHP rear wheel (and very likely rubbing something fierce). It’s not impossible to run an M3-spec rear setup, but it’d just take a lot of fender/suspension work!

[derbo]

Well the M3 is basically a different chassis as the body work and subframes are M specific. It also has an entirely different suspension...

Seems pretty obvious. :dunno

Tony? Care to chime in about the Subframe swaps?

Sent from my GS3.


The front track is slightly wider and the rear is not much more. However the metal fenders are significantly wider than the non-M which allows for a wider rim. :)

[Hornung418]

The front track is slightly wider and the rear is not much more. However the metal fenders are significantly wider than the non-M which allows for a wider rim. :)

Si!

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[Smilez]

Too wide. You can run 4 front m3 wheels.

[Avetiso]

Too wide. You can run 4 front m3 wheels.
Not necessarily too wide, but too aggressive.

[Smilez]

Yeah. Meant the offset is too aggressive. I've seen some rock it. And it looks nice. But you need stretch tires and pretty high camber

[derbo]

Yeah. Meant the offset is too aggressive. I've seen some rock it. And it looks nice. But you need stretch tires and pretty high camber

DTMDAN.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6214/6289208077_5e2bacdc0d_o.jpg

[mbeckel]

DTMDAN.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6214/6289208077_5e2bacdc0d_o.jpg
That looks SICK!

[slater]

That looks SICK!

it looks cool, but how does it drive? i've tuned many cars' suspensions and i can surmise without even setting foot in the car that it probably is a pain in the arse to drive.

peter

[mbeckel]

it looks cool, but how does it drive? i've tuned many cars' suspensions and i can surmise without even setting foot in the car that it probably is a pain in the arse to drive.

peter
I know how you feel there. My T/A was that way. Had a lot of power and driving around on the streets wasn't too fun. Had to literally take off from a dig out of every stop because the clutch was so strong. It was also a 10 second street car.

[slater]

I know how you feel there. My T/A was that way. Had a lot of power and driving around on the streets wasn't too fun. Had to literally take off from a dig out of every stop because the clutch was so strong. It was also a 10 second street car.

yeah. that's awesome for the drag strip, but in real-world driving that does not sound like fun. :)

maybe i'm getting old. the ZHP suspension is a fantastic real-world DD suspension in my mind - mine could use better damping at this point (110K miles on the stock dampers), but it can go pretty much anywhere and still looks dang good.

peter

[mbeckel]

yeah. that's awesome for the drag strip, but in real-world driving that does not sound like fun. :)

maybe i'm getting old. the ZHP suspension is a fantastic real-world DD suspension in my mind - mine could use better damping at this point (110K miles on the stock dampers), but it can go pretty much anywhere and still looks dang good.

peter
Maybe upgrade to coilovers, Charlie says it rides better after he did the upgrade

[QC_ZHP]

DTMDan had some awesome setups. This is gottalovethexi's car on e46f. Staggered 18's

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5484/11896865813_019c2d9980_o.jpg

[derbo]

DTM dan's setup looks hard to drive without rubbing, let alone drive hard. This last pic shows the tire..rubbing.. :facepalm

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5062/5809735443_515da0b040_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5198/5809563609_5981d67c89_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3299/5826202659_fba91a4b5c_o.jpg

[cakM3]

I'm not too much into really stretched tires to begin with but sometimes I'm amazed just how these guys get ///M wheels to mount and look good on sedans....

[Vas]

But man does that look soo good. Off the top of their head, anybody know his tire size?

[cakM3]

DTM dan's setup looks hard to drive without rubbing, let alone drive hard. This last pic shows the tire..rubbing.. :facepalm

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3299/5826202659_fba91a4b5c_o.jpg

Not worth it to me if the tire is rubbing like shown in the pic above....I love the lowered stanced look but would rather not sacrifice performance....sometimes it's a fine balance to get that look...

[derbo]

I wonder if he is driving does it start to smoke? lol

[cakM3]

I wonder if he is driving does it start to smoke? lol

The way you see those rub marks? I wouldn't be surprised....

[derbo]

EXCUSE EXUSE ME YOUR CAR IS SMOKING!

:facepalm

[cakM3]

Nice Derek :)


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