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az3579
12-30-2014, 04:17 AM
Eonon GA5150 User Review

by Botond Pal



Introduction
The Eonon GA5150 is an in-car multimedia system running an Android 4.2.2 (Jellybean) OS that incorporates features more commonly found on newer vehicles. It brings functionality that may have been left out from the factory on older vehicles and integrates it into the systems of an older vehicle so its capabilities are closer to its newer counterpart.



Fitment
The Eonon unit is a similar physical size as the OE BMW factory navigation system. It fits perfectly into the slot where an OE unit may be installed. It also is a mostly plug & play retrofit for a vehicle that does not have factory navigation installed and requires very minimal alterations to make the unit function in such a vehicle.

For the purposes of this review, it should be known that the vehicle it is currently installed in did not have factory navigation installed prior to this retrofit; instead it had the OE BMW Business CD radio installed with a Dension Gateway 300 iPod integration kit.



Fit and Finish
The fitment of the Eonon unit is nearly identical to OE. It does seem to sit farther in the slot than an OE unit would. My guess is that it has something to do with the tabs that you're supposed to put screws in. The tabs can either be installed on top of the center vent tabs or behind them. If you install the unit with the tabs on top of the center vent tabs, you can't help but feel like you're bending the tabs when you tighten the screws in. The screws do not thread much if installed in this configuration, though the unit itself sits perfectly flush with the dash this way. If you install the unit with the tabs underneath the vent tabs, then the unit sits a little farther in the dash but the tabs secure perfectly with the screws. Personally, I installed it this way as my OE radio sat in a similar fashion prior to this install and I was perfectly content with it that way. One might not even notice the difference, so it is not really an issue.

The feel of the buttons is slightly better than the OE navigation. The buttons on the OE navigation feel slightly looser in comparison to this unit, though this may be due to the age difference in the units. The buttons have a nice solid feel to them, and require a little effort to push in properly. There are two knobs on the unit in the same locations as an OE unit. The left knob controls both volume and is a power on/off switch. The right knob is a rocker switch and does not have resistive clicks like the left knob does. This is only used to highlight items on the screen by twisting the knob left and right, and cannot be pushed in.

From a visual perspective, the unit overall looks better than OE, in my opinion. The only thing that would make one think that it's not an OE unit is the text on the buttons; they are a very slight mismatch to the rest of the buttons that have text inside the cabin. This is barely noticeable and doesn't bother me at all since it is close enough.

When the lights are turned on, the way the buttons are lit up is absolutely perfect. The color is exactly the same as the lighting for other buttons elsewhere in the interior. The color of the buttons on the Eonon can be adjusted from the unit, and is highly customizable. When the unit is turned off, however, the backlighting on all of the buttons also turns off, so it's as though it's just one big black hole in the middle of your dash while everything else, such as HVAC controls and window switches, stay lit. I feel this is a cheap look and wish they would allow the buttons to stay lit with the rest of the interior lighting when the Eonon unit is turned off.

The screen is a nice capacitive touchscreen. It is very responsive to touch and you rarely have to touch something twice for it to register. Scrolling works effectively as well due to the responsive screen. The screen is multitouch, so you are able to do things such as pinch zoom in and out of maps when in navigation mode. The screen does not have any automated brightness control; all brightness settings are manually controlled within the "Brightness" menu in the Android OS settings. This can get annoying since the screen does not adjust on its own at night. More on this later on in this post.


Functionality
This unit is capable of many functions that our vehicles did not have from the factory. For a full listing of unit features, please visit this page:

http://www.eonon.com/Car-DVD-Players/Android-Car-DVD/GA5150.html

Some of the functions I used during my testing period include:
* Navigation (GPS)
* iPod connectivity
* Third party app installations
* WiFi Hotspot connectivity (using built-in WiFi receiver)
* Bluetooth connectivity
* Built-in microphone
* Reverse camera (this was an option, not included with unit)
* Steering wheel controls
* Radio tuner
* Custom color for lit buttons

Features that I did not test due to never having to use them or not having a chance to:
* CD/DVD player (will test shortly and update this post)
* Screen mirroring (I do not have an Android-based phone and wouldn't use this feature even if I did)
* USB/MicroSD card music playback (will test shortly and update this post)
* Remote

The unit has 9 actual buttons:
* Navi - this is a shortcut button that takes you to whatever app you have set as your default navigation app
* Mute - this mutes all sound
* Band - I haven't tried this button - will have to test and update this post
* AMS - I do not know what this button does; I have not yet looked it up. It does nothing when pushed, as configured out of the box
* Eject (for CD/DVD)
* DVD - I believe this would take you to the app to watch a DVD, but I have not yet tested this
* Home - this takes you to the Home screen, same function as on an Android phone
* Back arrow - this allows you to take a step back, same function as on an Android phone
* Power on/off - this is the left knob when pushed in

Slots/connectors/ports include:
* CD/DVD slot (with LEDs on the sides of the slot to guide insertion of the disc in the dark, just like OE)
* (2) MicroSD slots, one for GPS navigation and the other for general storage
* Openings for the built-in microphone
* Mini USB for use with the supplied dongle



--- Functionality - Android Operating System
The OS is Android 4.2.2 Jellybean. Personally I am not a fan of the Android operating system as it has always been buggy with every Android phone I've owned. The OS on this device runs very smoothly and so far hasn't frozen on its own. I have had some weird and random errors come up on the unit, however. One started right from the start, where something would randomly crash in the background and give an error message. This error used to come up constantly the first couple of days I've had it, but has since subsided. Update: Since updating the unit to Kit Kat, I have not received the errors for a long time now. It has been approximately two months that I've applied the update with no issues so far.

One thing I am not happy about is that it has no Screen Off feature to turn the screen off. Since it doesn't have automatic brightness dimming, I need to shut the screen off at night as it is terribly distracting even on the lowest brightness. Unfortunately, I had to download an app to accomplish this. This is covered a little more under the "Third Party Apps" section. Update: I have found the hidden function to turn the screen off. Press and hold the MUTE button for 1-2 seconds and the screen will turn itself off while leaving on whatever audio is playing. To only mute the audio and not turn off the screen, just press the button once and let go immediately.

A full system boot from a cold start will take approximately 30-35 seconds. I am very disappointed in the boot time; this feels like an eternity in the morning when I'm in the car and ready to go to work. When the ignition is turned on, you will see the Android Jellybean splash screen for about 3 seconds. After that, you'll see the BMW logo flashing for the remainder for the bootup time.I believe units such as the Avin Avant 2 allow you to specify a "sleep mode" timeout, where the unit stays in sleep mode instead of a full power off, and it will stay there for a specified amount of time before shutting itself off so it doesn't kill your car's battery. The GA5150 does not seem to have this option, so it performs a full shutdown once the car is turned off. Having a sleep mode feature like this would make short trips around town considerably less annoying.

As soon as the OS is loaded, it is immediately usable, with no apparent lag between you tapping an icon and it opening. Screens switch smoothly and accurately. You can control various system settings in the Settings menu and it looks similar to the Android OS on a mobile phone, so it should be very familiar to those running Android phones.

With the exception of the bootup time and the random, very occasional phantom error messages, I'm happy with the way the OS operates. The errors do get annoying the few times they come up, but are quickly dismissed with a tap of the 'OK' button. Update: The errors no longer come up with the Kit Kat update.




--- Functionality - Navigation (GPS)

The GPS receiver supplied with this unit worked flawlessly every time I tried to use it. It always provided an accurate location and never made my position on the screen "jump" around. I have not yet driven in the city with the navigation, however, so I do not know how well the location will be portrayed with the signal bouncing around buildings. So far I have only used navigation on backroads and on major interstates in Southern and Western Connecticut. The receiver was mounted behind the instrument cluster on a little raised section inside the dash. It fit in there perfectly and required no tape or anything to hold it in place because it squeezed into that spot as though that location was designed for it. The wire was run through the inside of the dash to the head unit.

The software used for navigation was the built-in Google Maps. I made sure Google Maps was updated by connecting my personal hotspot on my phone to my head unit. You are able to receive updates for your apps, including navigation, through the Play Store, exactly the same way as you would your Android smart phone.

Unfortunately, Google Maps didn't work quite as reliably as I had hoped in the time I've used it. Over the course of a week, Google Maps had crashed on me numerous times. I have never had an issue with Google Maps on my iPhone prior to installing this unit, so I do not believe it is a bug with the application, but I could still be wrong considering this is a different platform than iOS. Regardless, Google Maps still randomly crashes with an error, forcing me to relaunch the application. It ususally happens when I try to input my current location using the "My Current Location" feature. During the process of acquiring my location, it would sometimes crash. This does not happen every time and it appears to be random and not very frequent. Google maps ususally gets the job done though.

Update: Since the Kit Kat update, Google Maps has worked flawlessly.



--- Functionality - iPod/USB/MicroSD Connectivity
The unit has the capability of USB, MicroSD, or iPod connectivity. You can load music or media onto these devices and play them from the head unit provided you use the correct cable or media. So far, I have tested the iPod and USB options.

The iPod integration cable features a 30-pin standard Apple connector for use with older iPhone/iPod devices that do not use a Lightning connector. This is an outdated design and am surprised that a Lightning cable is not provided or supported at this time. It functions well enough, but I do have a big gripe.

After starting the head unit and launching the iPod app, it takes quite a while for the iPod to become available for use. It must find "find" the iPod, which probably takes a good 15-20 seconds. This just adds to the already irritatingly long bootup time for those who use iPod functionality constantly like I do. Once it has been detected, you can browse by Artist, Album, or Playlist. The menus are responsive and there is no delay in selecting items once the iPod has been detected. Songs play immediately once you select them, and they can be played/paused or skipped forward or backward. There is no functionality that allows you to fast forward/reverse in a song. Skipping songs and volume can be controlled via the steering wheel as well. If a song is playing and the vehicle is shut off, the iPod control will launch automatically upon the unit powering back on and will start that song over from the beginning once the iPod is detected. It does not pause the song and resume where it left off; it will start it over from the beginning. One last thing to top it all off: when the iPod connects and is waiting for you to make a selection, there is a clearly audible "dead noise" you can hear from the speakers, kind of like how audio cassettes (yes I'm old enough to remember these!) used to start off with some staticy noise before it would play any audio. This is quite noticeable while you're trying to make your selection, but once music is selected, you can no longer hear it, even if the music is very low and quiet. As long as the car is moving, you can't hear this noise at all due to all the background noise; it's only apparent when the car is stationary.

Also provided is a mini USB to full USB dongle for connecting USB devices to the head unit. The dongle is needed because the USB connector on the head unit is a mini USB connector. I have not yet tested this feature; I have to clean out a USB stick and put some songs on to it to try this out. I did, however, test this with my iPhone to see if it would charge it, which it did. The charging, however, was extremely slow and do not recommend it for just charging.

There is a slot available for micro SD card storage. I have not yet tested this functionality.

Update: I have tested music playback on the MicroSD card. It recognizes music on the card and plays the music, but the ID Tags do not show up. Instead, it only shows the actual filename of the song. This feature would be a lot more useful if it showed the ID Tags properly...




--- Functionality - Radio
There is a radio function accessible on the home screen of the unit. It is a nice looking screen, though it is a bit busy and has a little "too much" on it, IMO. I'm not bothered with the way it looks, but I am bothered by the lack of radio reception. Since switching over to the Eonon unit, my radio reception took a big hit. There is a particular station that I like to listen to on the way to work, which was fine most of the way there when I had my factory radio. Now, I can't listen to it at all as the amount of static is unbearable. There is another station that I received perfect reception on with my factory unit that now is fine "most of the time" but still gets static in spots where it has always been perfect previously. Since I like to listen to a particular radio show in the morning, I am extremely peeved by this lost functionality, and now have to listen to it via iHeartRadio streaming through Bluetooth.

You have your usual capability of programming stations, and some stations will display song information, though not very well. A lot of times I can't make out what it's trying to display, where it worked fine with the stock radio.

I have not tested AM radio, only FM.




--- Functionality - Third Party Apps
The beauty of the Android operating system is that it is very flexible. You can get apps from the Play Store, just like on your mobile phone. Since Android is wildly popular, you are able to get an app for just about anything, though there is a caveat.

The first thing I did when I started to play around with the unit is to look for navigation software. As you read in the Navigation section, there were lots of apps that did not give an Install option because they were deemed "incompatible" with my unit. There were also some apps that didn't show up at all in the Play Store for the same reason. There appears to be a workaround for this, which I have yet to test. I will update this post when I try it and have my findings.

Apps that I have installed include numerous navigation apps (which I subsequently deleted after finding they were inadequate), Google Chrome, and a program called Screen Off. Since there is no built-in feature for turning the screen off nor is there any feature for auto-dimming the screen at night, this last app was an absolute must. Unfortunately, after using this app for a little while now, I can conclude that the system doesn't like it. It will randomly reboot the entire unit after powering off the screen for a minute or two. When it reboots is random, and doesn't always reboot, but it does it often enough for it to be irritating. This is a feature Eonon really needs to include in a future update.

I attempted to obtain navigation software for this unit from the Play Store and have encountered endless frustration. I am mainly yearning for a navigation app that utilizes offline maps so I don't have to connect my Hotspot every time to use the nav. There is an extremely limited selection of navigation apps for this unit out-of-the-box that have offline map capability. Most of the apps I wanted to use didn't show up in the Play Store because they are "not compatible" with this unit, according to the page for the app, so I was stuck with whatever was available in the store due to the above mentioned issue. The apps I did find that worked right away were terrible. I used my place of employment as the test for whether the app is worth its salt and none of the apps (after downloading the map for Connecticut) even registered the road that it's on, which is a major road that feeds this company of thousands. Every time used navigation, I had to rely on Google Maps to get me wherever I needed to go, which unfortunately requires a data connection to function.

Once I try the workaround and obtain a decent navigation app that has offline maps, I will update this post.




--- Functionality - WiFi
There is a built-in WiFi receiver in this unit. It did not come with an external antenna that you can plug in.
So far, I have found the WiFi performance disappointing. When I launch a hotspot from my phone, it doesn't always pick it up, and I have to constantly cycle the WiFi on/off button on the unit and on my phone before it will finally realize that the hotspot isn't truly "out of range". It doesn't always do this, however; sometimes it will pick it up immediately and connect to it. When it works, it connects to the hotspot automatically.

I have also tried the Wifi with my home WiFi connection. This is where the range of the WiFi really starts to show its weakness. My wireless router is in my room on the second floor of a house. The driveway is literally attached to the house, so my car is parked directly underneath my window. The wireless will show 1-2 "bars" when parked as close as humanly possible, a distance of less than 20 feet. For reference, my laptop, which also has a built-in wireless antenna, picks up all 5 bars in the same location.

While the Eonon unit is connected to my home wireless connection, it is dog slow. Downloading a 100MB map took well over 20 minutes when connected to my home WiFi, whereas it took less than 3 minutes while connected to my phone's hotspot feature. WiFi performance on my laptop is fine, connected to the same network, taking just a few short minutes to download a similarly sized file.




--- Functionality - Bluetooth
Bluetooth has been one feature that I have been very pleased with. It was very easy to pair with my phone using the default passcode. You can change the name that is displayed for the unit in the Bluetooth list as well as change the passcode if you wish to use something different. As long as I leave Bluetooth enabled on my phone, it will immediately connect to the Eonon as soon as it boots up. Streaming music through Bluetooth also works well. The sound quality is fine and it isn't obvious that it's Bluetooth from a quality perspective. For reference, my phone is an Apple iPhone 5S.

I've only made one call with it so far while driving. I heard the person on the other end just fine through the car's speakers, but they said there was a lot of background noise on my end. The microphone is built in to the unit with no external one provided, so it was a bit distant from my mouth. If I spoke up a bit, then the other person heard me just fine despite the background noise. I would consider this "acceptable" for occasional use. I rarely talk on the phone while in the car, so for my purposes this works out perfectly. You may struggle a little bit if you talk on the phone in the car all the time because you'll find yourself repeating yourself and/or having to speak with an elevated voice for the other party to understand you.




--- Functionality - Reverse Camera (optional)
When I purchased the GA5150, I opted to buy the A0119 Reverse Camera as well. Since my car doesn't have PDC and I can't park within 2 feet of an object front to back to save my life, this was a must for me. The picture quality is mediocre at best, but it is more than adequate to get the job of parking done. There are blue lines on the screen that give you a relative distance to your obstacle, but the distances will vary depending on how you mount your camera. For me, I know that the closest line is about 6 inches away, which is as close as I'd want to get anyway.

When you first start the car and the Eonon unit is booting up (on the splash screen), activating reverse gear will immediately display the camera's picture. This is very well implemented as you do not have to wait for the unit to boot to be able to use the camera. While the camera's picture is active, the unit continues to boot in the background.

I have zero complaints about the rear camera's functionality! Update: Except, of course, the backup camera has stopped working. I haven't got a clue why, and it's too damn cold out for me to give a hoot, so I'll have to look at this in the spring time. [sigh]




Price, Ordering, and Packaging
I purchased this unit as part of a Group Buy on E46Fanatics. The GB price was $375, not including the camera. There was a Group Buy price for the camera as well, however, for $25 additional. I bought both together for $400.
Regular pricing for the GA5150 is $585 according to Eonon's website, with the camera retailing for $65. In total, I saved $250 off the listed prices on Eonon's website. There was a special link to follow to order at the GB rate, which was direct from their website.

Shipping was very quick; from the time I ordered it to the time I had it in hand, it was less than a week, shipping from Asia.
When purchasing the unit, I noticed that they didn't ask for shipping charges. I was a little confused but assumed that shipping was free since they made no mention whatsoever of shipping charges. I was wrong about the shipping...

Just a couple of days ago, I received a letter from FedEx with an invoice for $25.83! I had no clue what it was for but then I saw the ship from address. I knew the unit came from Asia, so that was the telltale. I was very surprised and displeased to get a letter like this. There should be no reason for surprises like this; shipping charges should be noted upfront when buying the unit. Interestingly, the letter mentioned customs, and said that items could potentially be held at customs until the invoice is paid. I received my unit a couple of weeks prior, so I am still confused by this letter. So, be warned; if you order this unit from Eonon, be prepared for some surprise delivery charges after-the-fact from FedEx.

The package the unit and wiring came in was as generic as they get. It didn't even say Eonon on it, just "Car Multimedia System" on it. It was well enough packaged and the unit had zero defects from shipping evident. The screen comes with a protective film on it. Since there are no bubbles from under the film, I elected to keep it on to protect the screen.




Conclusion
Overall, the Eonon GA5150 is a budget multimedia system that offers to upgrade lots of features of the car to more modern standards. Unfortunately, it is a "get what you pay for" item; its price is lower than some of the competition, but rightfully so. There is a lot of tinkering involved to get it to work optimally, but for the person who is willing to put forth the time and effort to fix a lot of the issues that plague the unit out of the box, this could prove to be a pretty good deal for a unit that "does it all", so to speak. It is robust and gives you options for even more uses if you feel so inclined (such as the Torque app that comes preinstalled), and with the things that do work perfectly every time, it does have some redeeming qualities that makes it a decent contender in a sea of generic aftermarket head unit replacements.

My personal overall rating: 6.5/10. I would rate the iDrive system in a F30 at a 9.0/10, for comparison's sake.



If there is something you would like me to test for you, please let me know and I will do my best to accommodate you. Any findings would be posted here in this original post.

Pictures will be posted in the coming days.

ELCID86
12-30-2014, 06:07 AM
Ah man. I was ready for a good read... :foottap

cakM3
12-30-2014, 06:09 AM
been a week now :foottap

NoVAphotog
12-30-2014, 06:10 AM
:crying:foottap

cakM3
12-30-2014, 06:18 AM
:crying:foottap

Daniel, I just realized that we all must be very patient as Botond will put out a very thorough and in-depth review of his experiences with his Eonon GA5150. Afterall, he's only had a week to use it barring work and other activities....maybe a week is not long enough. Let's give him two weeks before we :foottap him....I know I was early myself but after reflecting and posting in other threads I realized I wasn't giving BP a break.

Okay BP....I'm giving you a break my friend...:) :) :) :)

az3579
12-30-2014, 07:15 AM
been a week now :foottap

He who reviews a product right after receiving it and not living with it for a while cannot give an accurate review. ;)
You summed it up well in your last post. I don't eff around when it comes to a review.

I will be taking some pics tonight as well as a thorough "as it stands now" assessment, as well as future updates as I make progress with the unit.
Yes, that was a hint at what's to come.

cakM3
12-30-2014, 07:29 AM
He who reviews a product right after receiving it and not living with it for a while cannot give an accurate review. ;)
You summed it up well in your last post. I don't eff around when it comes to a review.

I will be taking some pics tonight as well as a thorough "as it stands now" assessment, as well as future updates as I make progress with the unit.
Yes, that was a hint at what's to come.

:like

NoVAphotog
12-30-2014, 07:45 AM
Daniel, I just realized that we all must be very patient as Botond will put out a very thorough and in-depth review of his experiences with his Eonon GA5150. Afterall, he's only had a week to use it barring work and other activities....maybe a week is not long enough. Let's give him two weeks before we :foottap him....I know I was early myself but after reflecting and posting in other threads I realized I wasn't giving BP a break.

Okay BP....I'm giving you a break my friend...:) :) :) :)
Oh yeah, agreed. I'm looking forward to it. Just showing that I was crying tears of excitement! :)

az3579
12-30-2014, 03:40 PM
Phew, it is taking me a lot of time to type up this review. So far I've been taking pics and typing for about an hour now, and I'm not even a quarter done... I have to stop now because of other priorities.

I'm changing the timeline/arrival of this review to 2-3 days from now to give me ample time to write up, proofread, and attach pictures to the review.

ELCID86
12-30-2014, 03:44 PM
Tease. :-)

Thanks for doing this!


Thumbs, iPhone, Tapatalk.

az3579
12-30-2014, 03:49 PM
Tease. :-)

Thanks for doing this!


Thumbs, iPhone, Tapatalk.

:thumbsup

I was disappointed that there were no reviews on this unit yet anywhere (for the E46) so I had to buy blind. I'll be happy to provide the first. :)

ELCID86
12-30-2014, 04:04 PM
:thumbsup

I was disappointed that there were no reviews on this unit yet anywhere (for the E46) so I had to buy blind. I'll be happy to provide the first. :)

I think Wolfie has provided a lot of specifics, but perhaps not a consolidated review.

az3579
12-30-2014, 04:05 PM
I think Wolfie has provided a lot of specifics, but perhaps not a consolidated review.

Those weren't specified to the GA5150, from an actual functionality perspective. There were no actual user reviews that I could find on Google when I bought my unit. That maybe have changed in the two weeks that I last did the research, though...

Gary's information did help quite a bit, however. :thumbsup

WOLFN8TR
12-30-2014, 09:55 PM
Those weren't specified to the GA5150, from an actual functionality perspective. There were no actual user reviews that I could find on Google when I bought my unit. That maybe have changed in the two weeks that I last did the research, though...

Gary's information did help quite a bit, however. :thumbsup

Thanks BP...:thumbsup

Ya there isn't any Reviews or Videos of the GA5150 out there yet. No pressure what so ever BP. :cool

az3579
12-31-2014, 04:12 AM
Thanks BP...:thumbsup

Ya there isn't any Reviews or Videos of the GA5150 out there yet. No pressure what so ever BP. :cool

"Take one for the team" lol
It's completely dead at work today; there are no users for me to support. I was going to finish typing it up while at work and then I realized that I forgot to copy my file from my home computer to bring here. :facepalm

ELCID86
12-31-2014, 05:26 AM
"Take one for the team" lol
It's completely dead at work today; there are no users for me to support. I was going to finish typing it up while at work and then I realized that I forgot to copy my file from my home computer to bring here. :facepalm

Dropbox.

az3579
12-31-2014, 06:25 AM
Dropbox.

No need, I have Google Drive, but... the file was saved on my desktop and not in the Google Drive folder. :(

cakM3
12-31-2014, 06:31 AM
No need, I have Google Drive, but... the file was saved on my desktop and not in the Google Drive folder. :(

Of course it was BP!! Since you have lots of "dead time" at work, you can go from memory and re-do your review.....it's a perfect time to "look busy" and get something you're interested in completed :)

az3579
12-31-2014, 06:40 AM
Of course it was BP!! Since you have lots of "dead time" at work, you can go from memory and re-do your review.....it's a perfect time to "look busy" and get something you're interested in completed :)

No way. I've got too much typed up already. Plus there are plenty of other things I could do that I haven't started yet!

cakM3
12-31-2014, 06:42 AM
No way. I've got too much typed up already....


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danewilson77
12-31-2014, 07:36 AM
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+1

"No flamesuit required"

az3579
12-31-2014, 07:40 AM
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Says the one that isn't even buying one within a week. :rofl

cakM3
12-31-2014, 09:00 AM
Says the one that isn't even buying one within a week. :rofl

Dude......... you talked me out of it! Remember the text you sent me last night????

az3579
12-31-2014, 09:45 AM
Dude......... you talked me out of it! Remember the text you sent me last night????

I didn't "talk you out of it", you're just getting the bootlid done before the Eonon unit, that's all. Remember the text??? lol

cakM3
12-31-2014, 09:49 AM
I didn't "talk you out of it", you're just getting the bootlid done before the Eonon unit, that's all. Remember the text??? lol

You talked me out of getting the Eonon unit first..........

az3579
12-31-2014, 09:52 AM
You talked me out of getting the Eonon unit first..........

Not the same thing as what you posted earlier. :p

cakM3
12-31-2014, 09:57 AM
Fuck it....I'm getting the Eonon next week then.....:p :p :p :p

az3579
12-31-2014, 10:19 AM
lol

az3579
12-31-2014, 03:33 PM
Review posted! Check original post. Pics will be uploaded in the coming days.

ELCID86
01-01-2015, 08:21 AM
Thanks for the write-up Botond. Very nice review-per usual. The boot time, WiFi performance, no dimming or sleep mode would really irk me. I do have a few questions and excuse me if I missed it above.

1) How do you install apps? Do you need to be near (and connected to) wifi --like in your driveway or have a phone/plan that supports tethering (I do not pay for this from VZW)-- it appears that is the case based on your comments on the slowness of the units wifi.

2) Is the Waze navigation app supported?

3) Google maps has an offline mode, did you try that? (I do see where you had issues with it being "buggy".)

4) You mention trying an ipod. Did you try an iphone v5+ with a 30-pin to Lightning dongle? I'm interested if this charges and gives control for Pandora, etc. (If you don't have one, I can send you one to try if you'd like. LMK).

johnrando
01-01-2015, 08:44 AM
Great review.

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az3579
01-01-2015, 09:39 AM
Thanks for the write-up Botond. Very nice review-per usual. The boot time, WiFi performance, no dimming or sleep mode would really irk me. I do have a few questions and excuse me if I missed it above.

You can download apps to control dimming and for turning the screen off. I'm experimenting with another one that hopefully doesn't reboot the system. So far so good...



1) How do you install apps? Do you need to be near (and connected to) wifi --like in your driveway or have a phone/plan that supports tethering (I do not pay for this from VZW)-- it appears that is the case based on your comments on the slowness of the units wifi.

In order to install apps directly from the Play Store, you'll need an internet connection. You can either connect to a regular WiFi connection or your phone's hotspot (if you had that feature). I get the feeling the reason my home WiFi was slow was because the built in receiver isn't very good so it had a weak signal. When I tether with my phone, the signal is just fine (4-5 bars) and downloads super quick. If you have a very strong signal, I would think downloads should be quick regardless of whether it's home WiFi or a hotspot. You can also install apps manually by downloading them on your PC (you'll need a SD card reader slot and a microSD to SD card adapter) on to the microSD card, enabling you to also install apps in offline mode.



2) Is the Waze navigation app supported?

Out of the box, no; when you try to look up the app in the App Store, it will either not show up or it will show up but not give you an option to Install it stating that it's incompatible. In order to install apps that it says "aren't supported" by the device, you have to download the APK manually onto a SD card, then use the built-in APK Installer (it's an app in the app listing) to install it. So far, using this method works fine for me, and is how I installed a couple of my test navigation apps last night. I would be able to install Waze using this method.



3) Google maps has an offline mode, did you try that? (I do see where you had issues with it being "buggy".)

Technically, Google Maps is not an offline app. Its offline mode is BS; you have to connect to the hotspot to map your route, then it'll save only that route. This defeats the purpose of trying to get an offline navigation app. If you deviate from the course, or end up having to go somewhere else that's not on the route, you have to reconnect the hotspot to obtain the new route information, after which you can disconnect. I want no hotspot requirement when using nav; I want it all to be built-in. This might not be as much of an issue anymore though because I finally figured out the trick to getting it to connect to my hotspot the first time, every time. While still annoying to have to connect it, it's a backup plan in case I don't find something that's suitable for offline use.



4) You mention trying an ipod. Did you try an iphone v5+ with a 30-pin to Lightning dongle? I'm interested if this charges and gives control for Pandora, etc. (If you don't have one, I can send you one to try if you'd like. LMK).

I do not have this dongle and at the price they're selling for, do not intend on buying one. If you want me to test it, feel free to ship it to me and I'll test it out for you. I think we did a quick and dirty test of this the first night of install using Tony's dongle, but I had no music on my phone and I do not think we tested it with anyone else's phone. It connected and recognized the phone, but I didn't try anything with it. It did charge, however I didn't check to see how quickly it charges it.




Great review.

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Thanks John. :thumbsup

WOLFN8TR
01-01-2015, 09:47 AM
Thanks for the write-up Botond. Very nice review-per usual. The boot time, WiFi performance, no dimming or sleep mode would really irk me. I do have a few questions and excuse me if I missed it above.

Nice Review BP.

Boot time on the GM5150 is approx 10 seconds.
It has the dimming feature.
It has Sleep sleep mode but once you use the steering wheel buttons to change the song, channel or volume it wakes the screen which is annoying.

ELCID86
01-01-2015, 11:03 AM
Thanks BP. And Gary for the further info. Sound like they left some goodies out of the GA.


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NoVAphotog
01-01-2015, 03:17 PM
Thanks BP. And Gary for the further info. Sound like they left some goodies out of the GA.


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+1

Excellent review BP. Thanks for taking the time to write it up.

Based on this, I definitely will not be purchasing this unit anytime soon as I could easily see myself getting annoyed with several of the items you mentioned, specifically, the boot/loading times. I also listen to the radio a lot and would definitely be pissed if I "lost" stations that I like.

I will continue to make do with the built in barebones Bluetooth system and Business CD in my zhp.

derbo
01-01-2015, 05:37 PM
Nice review BP. Do you know if Harry's Laptimer works with this?

Tnhl1989
01-02-2015, 01:00 AM
Yeah my first experience with android overall is the fact that you need Internet to do anything. The other thing is figuring out so many work arounds to get everything working correctly. I provided a good amount of tips to help Botond with the unit since I had an android one years back. I figured that I should just stick with the current one I have or update to another windows one so I don't have to spend as much time fixing and updating this. The trick with all android stuff is to really read all the android head unit threads. All relatively the same as problems and concerns are and many people do provide help with them. I mean from my first d5150 and the enco unit before there were many bugs. Nothing programming or software related really. Mainly just hardware issues.

Shawn we did use my dongle and it worked like it would work on my unit. Music does work. Charge rate is always slower since it's coming from the head unit. You can stream anything via Bluetooth or usb connected.

I want to pull the trigger on this however I wouldn't keep it. I only want to provide solutions to all the concerns people are having. If anyone want to provide the unit for me to do testing/providing fixes I'll be glad to and then ship it their way after. :)

cakM3
01-02-2015, 09:34 AM
I will have Tony to help me iron some things out when I install this unit in my ZHP this Spring :)

ELCID86
01-02-2015, 10:06 AM
Thanks Tony.


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az3579
01-02-2015, 12:10 PM
Nice review BP. Do you know if Harry's Laptimer works with this?

Dunno... probably. I don't have the app purchased so I can't test it.


Thanks Tony.


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This

derbo
01-02-2015, 12:29 PM
Dunno... probably. I don't have the app purchased so I can't test it.



This

The AVIN unit doesn't work with Harry's Laptimer and the main reason I would love to have this unit would be for a laptimer onscreen in the dash so I don't need to have my phone mounted on the windshield for laptimes. ;)

I'll have to email them to see if it works.

az3579
01-02-2015, 01:47 PM
Quick update:
I popped in my generic Bluetooth OBD adapter and tried out Torque. It appears to work! It took a little finagling to get it to detect the adapter and to have it connect to the ECU, but once I got it to work, it worked consistently every time I turned the car off and on again. I didn't play with the power and acceleration figures yet as I don't have an accurate weight with a full tank of gas AND me in the car (as it requests); the figure I have are for half tank of gas and without me and the spare.

It was able to measure everything; coolant temp, RPMs, and a bunch of other things that I can't remember.


The AVIN unit doesn't work with Harry's Laptimer and the main reason I would love to have this unit would be for a laptimer onscreen in the dash so I don't need to have my phone mounted on the windshield for laptimes. ;)

I'll have to email them to see if it works.

Well if you wanted to send me a donation of whatever Harry's Laptimer costs, I'll be more than happy to try it out. :biggrin

duhmiko
01-05-2015, 09:21 PM
Been a lurker on this forum for a few months now but finally joined today so I could weigh in on this discussion. Nice to meet you guys and I'm excited to join the community. Are there a lot of SoCal people here?

I installed the GA5150 about a month ago and I've been.... liking it. Not loving it, since it definitely isn't perfect. But it's a great deal for the price. I installed the double din bracket and system myself... I had the backup camera professionally installed.

AZ3579... I think I might have the answer to a few of your problems. And I'll talk about my own experiences...

First off, there are 2 BIG ISSUES with this system:

1. Bluetooth Audio Streaming causes extreme lag when used in conjunction with apps/when the system is being manipulated. The music will start to get staticky and choppy while the device will also slow down. Not enough RAM I presume although it has a decent amount for the price. This is a small issue if you're like me and use apps to stream music but if you plan to be bluetooth streaming music and switching through apps 24/7 you might not be too happy with the quality. I still bluetooth stream from time to time and friends use it as well but you just have to not be doing too much on the screen. You can, for example, set up a route on Google maps and start streaming without issue.

2. Microphone is SHIT. I think AZ3579 was being nice with his review. Everyone I tried it with said they could barely hear me. You have to yell loudly. I never talk on the phone in the car so I don't even connect via Bluetooth. Honestly kind of a bummer but I'll live with it. I've heard getting rid of the plastic covering can help

3. Slow system boot as AZ mentioned... around 40s (better with new update..... more at the end of this post).

AZ3579, you mentioned the LED color being spot on with OEM... you probably know this, but you can adjust the LED color in Settings>Element. It comes with a deep red stock but if you drag the green bar slightly upwards you'll get the perfect orange. You can also put all kinds of wacky colors or even have it changing... thought that was a nice option although I'll never use it.

Also noticed you mentioned that the brightness doesn't adjust but I've found it definitely does (ever so slightly... -- in Google Maps the maps will also go to night mode). I leave my lights on Auto so maybe that's it? Try looking very closely. Could also be a bug or difference in your OS.

You also mentioned the no "screen off" feature... you can shut the screen off at any time by pressing the left button (just puts unit to sleep). Maybe you mean something different?

Wifi performance can be shitty... it definitely isn't the most powerful. However, on 4glte, songs and maps still loaded in a reasonable amount of time. Sometimes soundcloud would be slow as hell but spotify seemed to work very well.

Here is what I did and what worked for me:

Bottom line: YOU NEED INTERNET. Offline maps are... okay. Most GPS apps are terrible... and at the end of day, who wants a sick Android nav without internet?

First, it's important to note I'm an iPhone user. The hotspot on iPhones is only accessible for a short period of time (like 10 seconds) before it turns off (if no one has connected) so manually connecting wifi was my biggest initial gripe. It took forever to have the device fully boot up and get wifi connected.... I'd be sitting in my car for 2 minutes before taking off.

Solution Go to your wireless provider and get a wifi device. For me it was this: http://www.att.com/devices/zte/velocity.html. It charges via USB. I was able to get it for $20 and I agreed to a 1 year contract. It's very cheap per month and I worked out a deal where I actually save money so I don't have to pay a dime (I am on a large family plan).

Anyways, get that device and run the USB connector (provided from Eonon) from the GA5150 down through the center console on the driver's side or passenger side or even through the glovebox. Plug in the Wi-Fi device. Set the settings on the wi-fi device to go to sleep after 5 minutes of no connection. I put mine under the back of the floor mat, sort of below the seat. The usb wires come down along the side of the seat so you can't see a thing.

Now when you turn your car on, the power from the nav will power up the wifi device and activate the hotspot. The unit will automatically detect the hotspot and connect upon startup. The wifi device charges when the car is on. When you turn the car off, the wifi device goes to sleep after 5 minutes of inactivity, saves battery and will be ready to do the same thing the next day with no delay. This solution has worked perfectly for me and the device connects quickly every time, internet is fast, and the wifi device battery has never died.

Bonus: You now have a hotspot in your car (and it's always removable/portable)! Now your family members can eat up all your data -- while you play chauffeur!

Awesome you got the OBD set-up! Personally I use OBDLink adapter since it has a sleep function so I can leave it plugged in the port. Pretty cool. They also have a way better designed app than torque. Check it out!

Like others, I have had some issues with the operating system/system functions. I have had Google Maps freeze on me many times. The system has had a few crashes with some apps but no total system crashes. I reported this to EONON and they gave me an update to conduct via SD card. I was PISSED that I had to go buy an SD card (especially after paying those dam custom fees too) but I got it and the new update is GREAT (with some caveats). I just installed it yesterday so I am still testing it out and in contact with them. They seem to have pretty good customer service. The new update gives a refreshed look, the system seems to boot faster, and it seems to be a different version of Android so you can install more advanced versions of apps. There are also more apps available for standard download (from the Play store).

See their site for the old UI: http://www.eonon.com/Car-DVD-Players/Android-Car-DVD/GA5150.html

See below picture of new U I just installed (from Eonon):

http://oi60.tinypic.com/sgr6f9.jpg

SO MUCH BETTER RIGHT?

Anyways, you should definitely message them for the new update and give it a shot.

I did it yesterday and I've had a few issues but it's definitely worth it. I'm sure they will smooth out all the bugs in future releases as well. Note: You will lose all your apps and settings.

My personal review? 8/10.... FOR THE PRICE. Navs in general? Probably a 5/10. This is a solid, cheap nav and as AZ said, the fitment is great and it looks very close to OEM. I'm happy with what I received for the price and ease of installation. It works well for what I do: Spotify, Soundcloud, Reddit, OBD Monitoring and MAINLY Google Maps & Live Traffic.

derbo
01-05-2015, 10:00 PM
I like the new UI interface alot better than the original one. Is it still on 4.2.2?

cakM3
01-06-2015, 03:37 AM
good write-ups.... keep them coming :thumbsup

az3579
01-06-2015, 04:23 AM
Been a lurker on this forum for a few months now but finally joined today so I could weigh in on this discussion. Nice to meet you guys and I'm excited to join the community. Are there a lot of SoCal people here?

I'm glad I could pull you out of lurker status! :thumbsup

I'd like to touch on a few things you mentioned.



1. Bluetooth Audio Streaming causes extreme lag when used in conjunction with apps/when the system is being manipulated. The music will start to get staticky and choppy while the device will also slow down. Not enough RAM I presume although it has a decent amount for the price. This is a small issue if you're like me and use apps to stream music but if you plan to be bluetooth streaming music and switching through apps 24/7 you might not be too happy with the quality. I still bluetooth stream from time to time and friends use it as well but you just have to not be doing too much on the screen. You can, for example, set up a route on Google maps and start streaming without issue.

I haven't noticed any issues with Bluetooth streaming, but my usage is pretty simple. I haven't streamed through Bluetooth and used the nav at the same time as of yet, but will try this on the way home to see what the performance is like. If you're saying it's fine with Google Maps running and Bluetooth streaming only (nothing else), then I probably won't ever come across the lag issues you mentioned since music and nav are the ONLY things I will ever use the unit for. I'll see if I can provoke this lag you speak of just to see if it shows up on mine.



2. Microphone is SHIT. I think AZ3579 was being nice with his review. Everyone I tried it with said they could barely hear me. You have to yell loudly. I never talk on the phone in the car so I don't even connect via Bluetooth. Honestly kind of a bummer but I'll live with it. I've heard getting rid of the plastic covering can help

Yeah the microphone does require me to yell a bit for people to hear me, though the only time the last couple of people have brought it up was when I asked them about it. These are non-car people so the fact that they didn't mention anything until I asked them about it was surprising. I'd have to have someone in the car speaking and me on the other end to hear what it's really like.



AZ3579, you mentioned the LED color being spot on with OEM... you probably know this, but you can adjust the LED color in Settings>Element. It comes with a deep red stock but if you drag the green bar slightly upwards you'll get the perfect orange. You can also put all kinds of wacky colors or even have it changing... thought that was a nice option although I'll never use it.

You know, I really did think it was spot on until I saw the color change thing. It looked exactly the same as my lit shift knob, which is what I think I was comparing it to at the time. The shift knob is slightly redder than the rest of the interior (LeatherZ shift knob). The color is close enough where it's hard to tell the difference unless you're looking for it, but I was able to more finely tune the color match of it after seeing the slider, I just forgot to update the post to reflect this. The slide is really cool to have since some people like to retrofit different color LEDs for their interior button lighting.



Also noticed you mentioned that the brightness doesn't adjust but I've found it definitely does (ever so slightly... -- in Google Maps the maps will also go to night mode). I leave my lights on Auto so maybe that's it? Try looking very closely. Could also be a bug or difference in your OS.

I don't consider Google Maps changing to night mode a brightness adjustment. The actual backlight doesn't change on my unit, just the colors, and only in Google Maps. The auto-brightness I'm referring to is the same kind that you get on the iPhone or on an Android smartphone, where it automatically adjusts to the surrounding light for optimal viewing brightness. This unit doesn't do that at all, in no way, shape, or form. If yours does, and you're running a newer OS, I want to try it, but I can't see how it would because there is no light sensor on the front of the unit. Is it possible it's "supposed" to adjust according to whether the headlights are on? I sometimes use my lights in auto mode and sometimes in manual, and it doesn't seem to make a difference in brightness when I switch the lights on and off. If there is a difference, it's one I can't see enough to notice.



You also mentioned the no "screen off" feature... you can shut the screen off at any time by pressing the left button (just puts unit to sleep). Maybe you mean something different?

I mean something different. The feature I was going for is the ability to turn the screen off but continue to play music in the background, or otherwise have the system still functional. If you put it into sleep, it turns off whatever is playing at the time.



Wifi performance can be shitty... it definitely isn't the most powerful. However, on 4glte, songs and maps still loaded in a reasonable amount of time. Sometimes soundcloud would be slow as hell but spotify seemed to work very well.

The unit is blazing fast on my 4G LTE. The only trouble is... I don't pay for tethering. My phone is jailbroken, so whatever tethering I do isn't exactly endorsed by Verizon, which is why I keep it to a minimum.



Bottom line: YOU NEED INTERNET. Offline maps are... okay. Most GPS apps are terrible... and at the end of day, who wants a sick Android nav without internet?

Agreed. It all depends on the usage though! There is offline navigation that is really good, such as Garmin, but it most definitely isn't free. Oh well.



Like others, I have had some issues with the operating system/system functions. I have had Google Maps freeze on me many times. The system has had a few crashes with some apps but no total system crashes. I reported this to EONON and they gave me an update to conduct via SD card. I was PISSED that I had to go buy an SD card (especially after paying those dam custom fees too) but I got it and the new update is GREAT (with some caveats). I just installed it yesterday so I am still testing it out and in contact with them. They seem to have pretty good customer service. The new update gives a refreshed look, the system seems to boot faster, and it seems to be a different version of Android so you can install more advanced versions of apps. There are also more apps available for standard download (from the Play store).

Anyways, you should definitely message them for the new update and give it a shot.

I did it yesterday and I've had a few issues but it's definitely worth it. I'm sure they will smooth out all the bugs in future releases as well. Note: You will lose all your apps and settings.

I do wonder... why doesn't Eonon provide updates on their site? There appears to be ZERO support under that section of their site, and you'd have to contact them for any and all issues that may be experienced. While I can understand that they can tailor personal/individual support on an as-needed basis, it is very inconvenient to have to contact them instead of trying some things on your own. I assume this OS update is only available when you contact them?



My personal review? 8/10.... FOR THE PRICE. Navs in general? Probably a 5/10. This is a solid, cheap nav and as AZ said, the fitment is great and it looks very close to OEM. I'm happy with what I received for the price and ease of installation. It works well for what I do: Spotify, Soundcloud, Reddit, OBD Monitoring and MAINLY Google Maps & Live Traffic.

Glad you're happy with your unit. While I am initially peeved about all the issues, I'm trying to work through them when I have the time, and can see the potential for a unit that's a suitable OE replacement once all the kinks are worked out. I really want this to be a system I keep, which is why I'm not giving up on it yet.

Just out of curiosity, have you had any issues with the radio reception? Mine has taken a BIG hit, and has made FM radio useless for me...

johnrando
01-06-2015, 10:21 AM
duhmiko: welcome. Please introduce yourself and your car in our new members section. Thanks for contributing!

duhmiko
01-06-2015, 11:22 PM
done ;)

duhmiko
01-06-2015, 11:34 PM
I'm glad I could pull you out of lurker status! :thumbsup

I'd like to touch on a few things you mentioned.



I haven't noticed any issues with Bluetooth streaming, but my usage is pretty simple. I haven't streamed through Bluetooth and used the nav at the same time as of yet, but will try this on the way home to see what the performance is like. If you're saying it's fine with Google Maps running and Bluetooth streaming only (nothing else), then I probably won't ever come across the lag issues you mentioned since music and nav are the ONLY things I will ever use the unit for. I'll see if I can provoke this lag you speak of just to see if it shows up on mine.

Please do! It drives me nuts... Seems to happen frequently when streaming from my iPhone 6 to the unit and switching between apps or clicking around high RAM usage apps... All is well after maps or OBDLink is set-up but while trying to do that it lags significantly.



Yeah the microphone does require me to yell a bit for people to hear me, though the only time the last couple of people have brought it up was when I asked them about it. These are non-car people so the fact that they didn't mention anything until I asked them about it was surprising. I'd have to have someone in the car speaking and me on the other end to hear what it's really like.

I will do some more tests as well... Such a bummer though, right?



I don't consider Google Maps changing to night mode a brightness adjustment. The actual backlight doesn't change on my unit, just the colors, and only in Google Maps. The auto-brightness I'm referring to is the same kind that you get on the iPhone or on an Android smartphone, where it automatically adjusts to the surrounding light for optimal viewing brightness. This unit doesn't do that at all, in no way, shape, or form. If yours does, and you're running a newer OS, I want to try it, but I can't see how it would because there is no light sensor on the front of the unit. Is it possible it's "supposed" to adjust according to whether the headlights are on? I sometimes use my lights in auto mode and sometimes in manual, and it doesn't seem to make a difference in brightness when I switch the lights on and off. If there is a difference, it's one I can't see enough to notice.

Yea, I wouldn't expect this. Do Avin/other more expensive units have a light sensor?

The screen definitely dims for me when headlights come on. Both on the old OS and new one. BUT it is very, very small and hard to notice. There might be some way to change the dimming interval deep in settings or we could ask Eonon. Honestly though, just leave your unit at about half brightness all the time... it seems to work for me. I can see how it could get easily distracting.


I mean something different. The feature I was going for is the ability to turn the screen off but continue to play music in the background, or otherwise have the system still functional. If you put it into sleep, it turns off whatever is playing at the time.

Ahh I understand. Well, the new OS has the little buttons in the notification center when you pull down from the top so you can quickly access brightness, wifi, bluetooth, etc :). Just like real Android!


The unit is blazing fast on my 4G LTE. The only trouble is... I don't pay for tethering. My phone is jailbroken, so whatever tethering I do isn't exactly endorsed by Verizon, which is why I keep it to a minimum.

Get a little wi-fi hotspot! Trust me. So worth it.


I do wonder... why doesn't Eonon provide updates on their site? There appears to be ZERO support under that section of their site, and you'd have to contact them for any and all issues that may be experienced. While I can understand that they can tailor personal/individual support on an as-needed basis, it is very inconvenient to have to contact them instead of trying some things on your own. I assume this OS update is only available when you contact them?

Yes... it's weird the way they handle things. I emailed with a complaint about it giving me an SD card error and they sent me that build. Truth be told, it's still a little buggy but goddam that new UI is worth it. I noticed very slow wi-fi speeds with this new update which kills me...


Glad you're happy with your unit. While I am initially peeved about all the issues, I'm trying to work through them when I have the time, and can see the potential for a unit that's a suitable OE replacement once all the kinks are worked out. I really want this to be a system I keep, which is why I'm not giving up on it yet.

Just out of curiosity, have you had any issues with the radio reception? Mine has taken a BIG hit, and has made FM radio useless for me...

It's slightly worse but only significant enough to bother me for those really far away stations.

az3579
01-07-2015, 03:58 AM
Get a little wi-fi hotspot! Trust me. So worth it.


Wanna pay the extra bill for me? lol

duhmiko
01-07-2015, 11:21 AM
Wanna pay the extra bill for me? lol

Just PM me the invoice ;)

In all seriousness though, since it's considered opening a new line the salesman will be willing to offer really good deals. I went in expecting to have to pay $20 extra a month and $50 up-front for the thing... After some bargaining and a few changes to my data plan (no increase in cost -- increase in data available) I only had to pay $20 up-front and $0 extra per month for the added line. Just saying it could be worth a shot... you might be surprised. Having the auto hotspot connect makes getting started driving so much easier.

duhmiko
01-07-2015, 06:21 PM
http://i59.tinypic.com/18cd2s.jpg


Updated notification center.

az3579
01-07-2015, 06:40 PM
Just PM me the invoice ;)

In all seriousness though, since it's considered opening a new line the salesman will be willing to offer really good deals. I went in expecting to have to pay $20 extra a month and $50 up-front for the thing... After some bargaining and a few changes to my data plan (no increase in cost -- increase in data available) I only had to pay $20 up-front and $0 extra per month for the added line. Just saying it could be worth a shot... you might be surprised. Having the auto hotspot connect makes getting started driving so much easier.


So here's the curveball. I'm grandfathered into unlimited data. Plan changes ain't happening. lol

I do want the OS update. I'm going to email them and maybe get lucky!




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duhmiko
01-07-2015, 08:13 PM
So here's the curveball. I'm grandfathered into unlimited data. Plan changes ain't happening. lol

I do want the OS update. I'm going to email them and maybe get lucky!




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Okay well that makes a lot more sense now lol. Your bill is probably half of what mine is :(. There's got to be some workaround for auto connect with iphone... the unfortunate thing is that this unit doesn't support wi-fi through bluetooth. Maybe through the USB directly?

Good luck! Let me know how the update goes and if you experience any issues/changes. I've already emailed them with what I've seen and I'm waiting to hear back.

duhmiko
01-08-2015, 06:02 PM
So here's the curveball. I'm grandfathered into unlimited data. Plan changes ain't happening. lol

I do want the OS update. I'm going to email them and maybe get lucky!




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Idk if I mentioned this but that new build they sent me is 4.4. Probably explains the updated UI.

Have they responded to you? I'll send you the files if you want. They have them public on Drive.

They just sent me a new build this morning that solved the little issue I had with that other (new UI, 4.4) build they sent. Unfortunately in this new build they downgraded the OS to 4.2 again and not 4.4. Also it's back to the same old UI AND boot times are back to being very slow i.e. 45 secondsish. Besides that it seems to run a little smoother.

Bummer. But I emailed them asking for a polished build of the 4.4 version with updated UI. I'm actually going to downgrade to the previous one they sent and deal with the small issues because I can't go back to that terrible, restrictive UI 4.2 it came with.

az3579
01-08-2015, 08:54 PM
Wow that sucks about the most recent update. I sure would like the 4.4 update; if you can point me to the right place I'd appreciate it!

I also want to keep a copy of the new updated 4.2, just in case.


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duhmiko
01-08-2015, 11:51 PM
Wow that sucks about the most recent update. I sure would like the 4.4 update; if you can point me to the right place I'd appreciate it!

I also want to keep a copy of the new updated 4.2, just in case.


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Update Instructions (from Eonon):

"Upgrade Method for GA Units:

Depress the folder - Copy the files to a SD card - Insert the SD card to GPS slot of our unit - Turn on the unit - The unit will be upgraded itself automatically.



Note:
1. Please do NOT cut off the power and keep steady power voltage during the upgrade.
2. Do NOT take off the SD card before the upgrade is finished.
3. The upgrade process will take little long time, please wait for it patiently."

4.4 New UI: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a7b4QtMCORb3IzdHJjMGozQ0U/view?usp=sharing

4.2.2: https://drive.google.com/a/sbo2.net/file/d/0Bzvw0uuTAgk-S01aZmYxcko2LWs/view

I reverted to the 4.4 tonight... the first time I tried to install it I got some strange little issues and lags. I decided to reformat the memory card and re-download the update fresh... after installing a second time it actually seems to be working pretty well.

duhmiko
01-09-2015, 11:29 PM
Wow that sucks about the most recent update. I sure would like the 4.4 update; if you can point me to the right place I'd appreciate it!

I also want to keep a copy of the new updated 4.2, just in case.


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Let me know when you install the new update. I'm curious how well it works for you.

I had to reformat my sd card multiple times and try the update 3 times to get it working properly... I think the files are just easily corrupted. After hours of testing in traffic everything major seems smooth with the updated UI. Curious to see how it is after 2 weeks...

az3579
01-12-2015, 06:05 AM
Let me know when you install the new update. I'm curious how well it works for you.

I had to reformat my sd card multiple times and try the update 3 times to get it working properly... I think the files are just easily corrupted. After hours of testing in traffic everything major seems smooth with the updated UI. Curious to see how it is after 2 weeks...

I just got a whole shit ton of free time dumped into my lap so I'm going to give this a try. Thanks.

cakM3
01-14-2015, 01:29 PM
I just got a whole shit ton of free time dumped into my lap so I'm going to give this a try. Thanks.

Take full advantage when you can BP :thumbsup

az3579
03-03-2015, 08:40 AM
Update:

I've been running the new OS for a while now (KitKat) and have to say that I quite like it. It doesn't really seem to be any faster from a functional perspective, but certain things are a lot easier to get to now, such as screen brightness, WiFi controls, and a couple of other things, all thanks to the swipe-down settings control.

I've also found the hidden built-in function for switching off the display! After trying numerous apps to do the job, all of which resulted in the unit rebooting itself, this trick actually works nearly perfectly. To turn the display off, hold the MUTE button for a second or two. The screen will turn off but all functions that are currently active will still be active, such as radio or iPod. I believe spoken nav directions should still work, but I don't use the voiceover so I haven't tested it yet. When the screen is tapped, the screen comes back on immediately. My only gripe is that whenever you change the volume from the steering wheel, the screen comes back on to show the volume slider bar, at which point you'd have to manually go back and turn the screen off. It isn't a big deal, just an annoying glitch.

Unfortunately, my backup camera has ceased to function. Now I just get "No Signal".

duhmiko
03-14-2015, 12:01 PM
Update:

I've been running the new OS for a while now (KitKat) and have to say that I quite like it. It doesn't really seem to be any faster from a functional perspective, but certain things are a lot easier to get to now, such as screen brightness, WiFi controls, and a couple of other things, all thanks to the swipe-down settings control.

I've also found the hidden built-in function for switching off the display! After trying numerous apps to do the job, all of which resulted in the unit rebooting itself, this trick actually works nearly perfectly. To turn the display off, hold the MUTE button for a second or two. The screen will turn off but all functions that are currently active will still be active, such as radio or iPod. I believe spoken nav directions should still work, but I don't use the voiceover so I haven't tested it yet. When the screen is tapped, the screen comes back on immediately. My only gripe is that whenever you change the volume from the steering wheel, the screen comes back on to show the volume slider bar, at which point you'd have to manually go back and turn the screen off. It isn't a big deal, just an annoying glitch.

Unfortunately, my backup camera has ceased to function. Now I just get "No Signal".

Awesome! I'll try out that mute thing when I get in the car later.

For the backup camera, try messing with the stuff under Driver Settings or Accessibility in the Settings section.

az3579
03-14-2015, 12:08 PM
Awesome! I'll try out that mute thing when I get in the car later.

For the backup camera, try messing with the stuff under Driver Settings or Accessibility in the Settings section.

The camera previously worked, it just stopped working. It's definitely not a setting issue...

az3579
07-25-2016, 04:09 PM
Quick update regarding the screen off feature:

While holding mute for a few seconds does turn the display off, the display comes back on when a button is pressed or a function used. I did find an even better way to switch the screen off: simply double tap an empty space on one of the homescreens and the display will not only switch off, but will not turn back on if you change volume. To bring the display back, just press the Back or Home buttons.

I actually discovered this a few months ago, just forgot to post it. :)