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Oli77
06-03-2016, 03:22 PM
Have you guys driven them?

They look pretty I think (stole that pic from an F10 forum). Are they a bigger heavier version of a ZHP?

And all these numbers? 530,535, 550, 6, 8 4 cylinders with turbos. Kinda confusing no?

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rguti153
06-05-2016, 08:21 PM
i agree i have no clue what is what

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Pip
06-05-2016, 09:08 PM
Have not driven one yet but if they drive nicely I'll own one in a few years. I think they are great looking cars. Would most certainly be bigger/heavier than the ZHP


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az3579
06-06-2016, 03:37 AM
i agree i have no clue what is what

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528i - 4 cylinder turbo
535i - 6 cylinder turbo
550i - 8 cylinder turbo
M5 - 8 cylinder turbo




Have not driven one yet but if they drive nicely I'll own one in a few years. I think they are great looking cars. Would most certainly be bigger/heavier than the ZHP


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Try 600-900 pounds heavier than a ZHP...
They're over 4000 pounds.

rguti153
06-06-2016, 03:40 AM
4 cylinders what the fuck
i thought this was for thr x1 .or is x2 now .

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az3579
06-06-2016, 03:41 AM
4 cylinders what the fuck
i thought this was for thr x1 .or is x2 now .

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528i's aren't popular here, probably because they're underpowered for such a large vehicle. Let's not forget that every fawking BMW here is AWD, which adds a ton of weight, so the underpowered nature of the 528i just doesn't cut it. They're mostly 535i's around these parts, which have plenty of juice.

I hate the fact that if I ever have to buy a newer BMW (non-M), I won't be able to buy one locally because no dealer stocks RWD ones here anymore... :(

KevinC
06-06-2016, 05:37 AM
I had a 320i (170 hp turbo 4) as a loaner last year when my passenger airbag was being replaced under recall. It had shockingly good acceleration around town, and the 8-speed auto in current BMWs is superb (for a slush box). I'm quite sure it would have quickly run out of grunt at higher revs, but for a badge whore wanting to run around and be seen in a BMW and get groceries, it was fine. That said, those aren't the reasons I (or probably most anyone else here) loves the marque. The new 340i is supposed to be a much better car, with numb steering and handling complaints allegedly addressed. But the steering is still electric and still number than a classic hydraulic setup. Nice cars, but they'v come a long way since the E46 days, good in some ways, not so good in others.

D1ESEL
06-06-2016, 06:20 AM
Early 2011 528i F10's were still a NA I6

Aeternalis
06-06-2016, 06:48 AM
528i - 4 cylinder turbo
535i - 6 cylinder turbo
550i - 8 cylinder turbo
M5 - 8 cylinder turbo
Whew. A 2.8L 4-cylinder? That is a tall four-banger.

Would not want to be pushing around a 5-series with one though.. strange decision-making there.

Had I the time or money or know-how I'd want to stuff that FI 2.8 into an old E36 318 for shits & giggles. I bet something like that would get up & go, lol.

san
06-06-2016, 06:55 AM
Whew. A 2.8L 4-cylinder? That is a tall four-banger.

Would not want to be pushing around a 5-series with one though.. strange decision-making there.

Had I the time or money or know-how I'd want to stuff that FI 2.8 into an old E36 318 for shits & giggles. I bet something like that would get up & go, lol.

It's 2.0 liter not 2.8 liter..


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Aeternalis
06-06-2016, 06:56 AM
It's 2.0 liter not 2.8 liter..


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Oh. I saw "528" and assumed the 28 was engine size. Ugh. More confusion!

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BMWCurves
06-06-2016, 07:09 AM
Oh. I saw "528" and assumed the 28 was engine size. Ugh. More confusion!

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Those model designations have little to do with actual engine size anymore. Even back to the E39, the 540i is actually a 4.4L V8. They're all just relative to one another for power/torque output i.e. 320i has less power than the 328i, etc, although some model numbers do match the volume of the engine inside.

az3579
06-06-2016, 07:23 AM
Early 2011 528i F10's were still a NA I6

Learned something new. Makes sense, since the F30 wasn't released 'till 2012 and the F10 existed before that.

NorCalZman
06-06-2016, 09:25 AM
If you want a ZHP like car your best choice is a 2 series most likely. and if you want 4 doors, well I just read a rumor that in a few years BMW will finally release a 4 door, RWD 2 series GranCoupe. Thats what I would love to have.

san
06-06-2016, 10:10 AM
If you want a ZHP like car your best choice is a 2 series most likely. and if you want 4 doors, well I just read a rumor that in a few years BMW will finally release a 4 door, RWD 2 series GranCoupe. Thats what I would love to have.

+1 was just reading about a possible M2 gran coupe, I would definitely consider buying that...


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BMWCurves
06-06-2016, 10:15 AM
Agreed. I'd love to see what one of those 2 Series GranCoupes will look like, but they've been rumored for years so I'm not getting my hopes up that they'll be official anytime soon.

rguti153
06-06-2016, 01:13 PM
m2 four door yes !!!@

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Oli77
06-06-2016, 02:29 PM
Edited my typo in the original post to correctly point out that we are talking about the 5 series car.


Early 2011 528i F10's were still a NA I6

Yes, if you look at 2010-2011, the cars have 6 cylinders.

The turbos started coming in in 2012 according to the wiki.

Still confused a bit.

Sockethead
06-06-2016, 04:18 PM
We had a 535 loaner for a few days... we hated it. We couldn't wait to get out of it. I never thought I'd say that about a BMW but that car was a big boring sedan, not really any different than the plethora of average boring sedans available these days

Oli77
06-06-2016, 05:27 PM
We had a 535 loaner for a few days... we hated it. We couldn't wait to get out of it. I never thought I'd say that about a BMW but that car was a big boring sedan, not really any different than the plethora of average boring sedans available these days

Dang, that's not good. Thanks for the feedback! Plus finding one with 6 speed might be a challenge.

bandwagn
06-06-2016, 06:13 PM
Could be tempting -

https://www.ebay.com/itm/111986008644

2011 BMW 5-Series 550i

NYRhockey
06-06-2016, 06:30 PM
BMW is driving me nuts with this Gran Coupe bs. A couple months ago i saw what i thought was a 3 series then i look closer and i see "428" and thought my eyes were lying to me, then i went to BMW's website and saw it was a Gran Coupe. Da fuq is that about when you already have the 3 series? Almost daily i become less and less interested in ever buying a new BMW.

danewilson77
06-06-2016, 06:43 PM
Could be tempting -

https://www.ebay.com/itm/111986008644

2011 BMW 5-Series 550i
Not a single interior picture.

:dunno

S7 Edge, out

bandwagn
06-06-2016, 06:47 PM
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I think it's the way ebay formats the listings - limits the default view to the first 12 images, then you have to dig to find more

http://images.auction123.com/00f891b1-ecde-4ce6-8e21-a7ef555e5c4a/WBAFR9C52BC271183/22.jpg?wtrmk8nw

Manual Transmision confirmed

BMWCurves
06-06-2016, 08:45 PM
BMW is driving me nuts with this Gran Coupe bs. A couple months ago i saw what i thought was a 3 series then i look closer and i see "428" and thought my eyes were lying to me, then i went to BMW's website and saw it was a Gran Coupe. Da fuq is that about when you already have the 3 series? Almost daily i become less and less interested in ever buying a new BMW.

It's just finding every single niche market they can enter. The Gran Coupe has a hatch trunk i.e. it's not closed to the interior like a traditional trunk. I agree with you though, it's kind of batshit nutty the amount of permutations they have.

Then again, I'd take the 4 series Gran Coupe over the 3 series Gran Turismo because god damn is the latter ugly.

az3579
06-07-2016, 04:46 AM
Then again, I'd take the 4 series Gran Coupe over the 3 series Gran Turismo because god damn is the latter ugly.

Quoted for truth. The 4GC is the sexiest looking car out of the whole 3/4 series lineup, IMO.

anandoc
06-07-2016, 06:41 AM
The 4GC is the sexiest looking car out of the whole 3/4 series lineup, IMO.

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