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M0nk3y
04-14-2011, 03:04 PM
Ok guys, a lot of people have been asking me the bare essentials to car care. I decided to write this article to explain my personal suggestions as to what I think you should look into buying. With this being said, they are my own personal opinions; everything I am suggesting I have used and worked with. I would never suggest something that I think is cool or any other matter of that sort. I’ll only offer my normal suggestions. I’m not going to directly link websites on where you can buy products. I will always support forum sponsors before anything else.

Wash:

Washing a car is the bare essential of getting your car clean. Many people associate washing with using a grout sponge, some Dawn soap, and a bath towel to dry your car. Everyone has done it at some point, including me.
Washing is where the majority of your swirls are produced, proper washing of your car can help prevent and eliminate these risks.

Buckets:

When I wash a car, I use 2 buckets. This is usually known as the two bucket method. Both are 5 gallon buckets, and both have grit guards in the bottom of the buckets:

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/autogeek/gritguardred.jpg

You don’t need two grit guards, but the OCD in me always wants them. More is better than less.
In one bucket, is where your soap is going to sit. The other bucket is for clean water (This is where the Grit Guard will sit). The purpose of the grit guard is to help release dirt particles that are stuck on your mitt. After to wash a panel of the car, you will put the mitt into the clean water, scrub the mitt against the clean water, and then dip into your soap and continue to wash.

Mitt:

Many people think grout sponges are the proper washing tool to use. Not true. A sheep skin mitt or microfiber mitts are much better alternative, mainly because they don’t trap and hold dirt. In addition, they are soft on the paint and can sud up the soap a lot better, providing more lubrication and reduce swirls.

I use a Cobra MF Mitt:

http://www.autopia.org/reviews/images/product/1797/600/01e309ae.jpg

Soap:

Soap is a critical step in the washing method. You need something that can provide enough cleaning power to get rid of all of the dirt on the paint, while getting the crucial lubrication needed.
I really like Chemical Guys Citrus Wash and Gloss. When diluted to ½ ounce per gallon, you can use it as a normal soap for general washing. When you need to strip existing wax or sealant, dilute it to 2 ounces per gallon:

http://www.frankscammell.com/uploads/2/5/7/5/2575539/2563779.jpg

Drying:

I won’t go into this very much, because there isn’t much to be said. Using bath towels are too rough for your paint, and induce swirls. Waffle Weave microfiber towels are the only proper way to dry a car. I don’t like chamois or the jelly blades, because both can trap dirt and scratch the paint as you spread them across the car.
Some people can say that scratching the paint can happen the same way on the MF towels, but with the plushness of the towel, it is less likely to trap the dirt and spread it.

I use just a general MF Waffle Weave Towel:

http://neatitems.com/images/Waffle_Weave_Towel_Set.jpg

Clay Bar:

For general waxing, most people like to skip this step because they don’t think it applies to them. What they don’t know, is that this is the second major step that can contribute to swirls. Simply spraying quick detailer and rubbing clay bar will help lift the embedded containments.

I like the Clay Magic Kits personally. You can pick them up at any local auto store.

http://www.claymagic.net/images/CM2200-history.jpg

Sealant:

Sealant is something that is usually never known, or overlooked. Sealant is your base protectant. While it doesn’t usually contribute to major depth and gloss, it can help protect your paint for up to 6 months. Applying is as simple as to taking a foam applicator pad and simply rubbing it on your paint. The goal is to create a thin layer of sealant. More is NOT better in this case.

I love Wolfgang 3.0 Paint Sealant. It’s the easiest sealant I have used, and the longest lasting (not to mention it does help create some depth). You need to apply this sealant and let it DRY for 1 hour. Remove with a microfiber towel and before you do anything else to your paint, you need to let it cure for 24 hours. By letting it cure, the sealant bonds to the paint, creating this long lasting protection:

http://cleaningczar.com/images/autogeek_2143_87116286.jpg

Wax:

Wax is the second step in protection for your car. This is where you get most of your depth and gloss (from protection products). This form of protection can help protect your car for about 3-5 weeks, depending on weather conditions. Applying as well, you can use a foam applicator pad. You can apply by hands as well, but it gets a little messy. After you apply (which should happen when your car is in a cold, shaded place) let the wax go to a haze, and simply wipe it off with a MF towel.

I really love Dodo Juice. Many people ask why I prefer paste wax over liquid wax. The only reason why liquid wax is liquid is because of the Carnauba content. Carnauba in its natural state is hard as a rock. So by making it liquid, less carnauba is needed. This also limits the amount of protection and depth you can achieve. When in doubt, invest into Paste Wax.

I use a combination of Dodo Juice Waxes. It seems overkill, but I really appreciate the results:

Dodo Juice Hard Candy:

http://dodojuiceworld.com/documents/ddhc250.png

Dodo Juice Rainforest Rub:

http://dodojuiceworld.com/documents/ddrr250.png

A cheaper alternative could be Poorboys World Natty Waxes. I’ve used these for about a year and a half and had fantastic results:

http://feeds2.yourstorewizards.com/1166/images/200x200/poorboys-nattys-red-wax.jpg

Towels:

Microfiber towels are essential to keeping your car swirl free. You can really go any direction with microfiber towels, just make sure they are plush and from a reputable place. The autozone towels are not actual microfiber towels, trust me. I use Cobra MF towels:

http://img3.prosperent.com/images/250x250/feeds2.yourstorewizards.com/1166/images/200x200/cobra-microfiber-towel.jpg

Wheel Care:

Wheels can make or break a car, we as enthusiasts know this. The proper ways to wash wheels are critical to have them nice and shiny for years to come.

Degreasers:

Wheel degreasers are a major factor in washing wheels. Some can cause permanent damage to wheels while other can never clean simple dust off it.

You want to stay with a neutral PH wheel cleaner. Cleaners at autozone are highly acidic. While they do great at washing wheels, they slowly chew away at your finish.
For stubborn wheels, Sonax or P21s are the best cleaners on the market, hands down. They are highly expensive though, so use them only when needed.

http://www.detailedimage.com/photos/esoteric/wheels/products.jpg

Right next to the P21s wheel gel is the wheel brushes. Especially for you ZHP guys, you absolutely need these brushes. It helps agitate the degreaser and scrub away at wheel dust. It’s perfect for any wheel, especially close spokes.

I use Meguiars D104 APC Degreaser always for general wheel cleaning. Diluted 10:1, it’s great for general upkeep for general dusted wheels:

Maintaining your wheels is the next step to helping them look shiny for weeks, even with OEM dust! I like Poorboys Wheel Sealant. With a melting temperature of 400+ degrees Fahrenheit, it’s impossible for this sealant to fail. Most of the time, all that is required is a simple hose of water to wash off the existing OEM dust.

http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/poorboys-wheel-sealant-lg.jpg

Exhaust:

Exhaust tips usually never look right when you look at someone's car. They are always dirty, and never shine when you see the factor pictures. Cleaning exhaust tips is one of the easiest, and cheapest things that someone can do. Using steel wool is the easiest way to clean your exhaust tips. It's important to use the correct steel wool.

You want to look into #0000 Steel Wool. This is the finest steel wool you can get. You won't scratch you tips, a common misconception, but you will actually polish them; while removing all of the grime. Combine this with some metal polish on the steel wool while you rub away and it will become perfection. Sometimes it does take work to get the more stubborn grime off. I use Blue Metal Polish, you can pick it up at any autozone/automotive store. It's non-abrasive, so no need about another polish to finish it up

http://images.drillspot.com/pimages/2943/294307_300.jpg

To protect your newly polished tips, apply the Poorboys Wheel Sealant as well to the exhaust tips. It will make cleaning alot easier next time around.

Trim:

Faded trim makes any front end dull and boring. Repairing your moldings can make any car's appearance come together. I use to use back to black by mothers, but that was all liquidly, messy, and a pain to apply. To add on top of that, it was faded after one wash. I personally like Black WOW. It's a gel like substance that sticks to the molding and can last past 6 months before re-applying. It's still alittle messy, so I suggest either taping off the surrounding area, or taking the trim completely off. It's not cheap, but well worth it

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/510kg%2BjQtmL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

I’ll stop right here. I’ll add little nib bits like interior cleaning, etc when I have more time. This is a quick write-up for some people that have requested it.

Thank you for your time,

Kyle

danewilson77
04-14-2011, 03:21 PM
Simply superb. Thanks for providing M0nk3y...

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Marcus-SanDiego
04-14-2011, 03:38 PM
Kyle, thanks for adding this to the site.

ryankokesh
04-14-2011, 04:21 PM
Inspiring! Thanks for taking the time to do this, Kyle!

johnrando
04-14-2011, 04:40 PM
Great info, thanks! John

kayger12
04-14-2011, 04:46 PM
Great write up, Kyle.

Droid X. Tapatalk. Use it.

BlueZHP
04-14-2011, 06:24 PM
Nice info. Looking foward to exhaust cleaning how to.

spencers
04-14-2011, 06:34 PM
And if you're in a hurry and/or have no water hose (apartment dwellers), I HIGHLY recommend the two-bucket method, using Optimum No-Rinse as the soap. Works wonderfully!

PS- What about polish????

Also, thanks for the wheel sealant suggestion. Definitely need to try it out.

static667
04-14-2011, 06:43 PM
Great write up. Now I have to go buy a bunch of stuff...

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M0nk3y
04-14-2011, 06:48 PM
Thanks everyone, I hope this can be beneficial for you guys to use. If enough interest builds. I'll do a polishing/rotary guide when I detail my own car...maybe with videos if people want

Updated as well with Exhaust and Trim

static667
04-16-2011, 11:28 AM
Do you get all of your stuff online or is there an actual store you go to?

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M0nk3y
04-16-2011, 02:49 PM
Do you get all of your stuff online or is there an actual store you go to?

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No local stores. I try to order most from Detailed Image (http://www.detailedimage.com/wax.php?id=13407&url=detailedimage.com); but I give me business to autogeek.net as well

static667
04-16-2011, 03:02 PM
I think I hit almost every option there is. Napa, Auto Zone, Car Quest, and Advance. Didn't see the waxes or most of the stuff you listed. I like the internet but I've been trying to deal in all cash lately. Oh well, an internet order may happen soon.

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M0nk3y
04-16-2011, 03:19 PM
I think I hit almost every option there is. Napa, Auto Zone, Car Quest, and Advance. Didn't see the waxes or most of the stuff you listed. I like the internet but I've been trying to deal in all cash lately. Oh well, an internet order may happen soon.

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Sadly, that's the only way you can really get them. Most regular people just want the cheapest products they can get, and think it's all the same thing (aka auto stores). Yes, some can be good...but most never promise what they actually claim to achieve.

Detailedimage is a really secure site. I've talked to Greg a couple times and he's an extremely nice guy

Marcus-SanDiego
04-16-2011, 04:51 PM
And Detailed Image (http://www.detailedimage.com/wax.php?id=13407&url=detailedimage.com) is an affiliate of ZHP Mafia (see banner at top of site), so all the better. I have enjoyed my relationship with those guys. I've bought plenty of stuff from them.

Kudos
04-17-2011, 06:57 AM
I've used autogeek.net because they have deals all the time on their stuff so the prices are really good. only thing is you need to know what you are looking for, there's like 400 glazes just by meguires. if you're not sure ask the people on the site or here. I honestly don't use a grit guard, but after every panel i wash, i stream my mitt with water from the hose until it's brand spanking new. the mitt i have is sheepskin, but seems to trap the dirt so it doesn't help to just rinse in another bucket. Monk3y where did you get your mitt from??

M0nk3y
04-17-2011, 07:56 AM
I've used autogeek.net because they have deals all the time on their stuff so the prices are really good. only thing is you need to know what you are looking for, there's like 400 glazes just by meguires. if you're not sure ask the people on the site or here. I honestly don't use a grit guard, but after every panel i wash, i stream my mitt with water from the hose until it's brand spanking new. the mitt i have is sheepskin, but seems to trap the dirt so it doesn't help to just rinse in another bucket. Monk3y where did you get your mitt from??

I got that through autogeek because I actually won it through a contest there. It's a Cobra MF Mitt, you can do the search. I don't want to direct link

Mike V
04-17-2011, 02:44 PM
Bookmarked. AWESOME write-up. Thank you very much for taking the time to do this.

johnnyrad
04-17-2011, 03:25 PM
Thanks everyone, I hope this can be beneficial for you guys to use. If enough interest builds. I'll do a polishing/rotary guide when I detail my own car...maybe with videos if people want

Updated as well with Exhaust and Trim

Awesome write up! :applause2 It's all about the simple things isn't it? Would love to see your polishing guide.

Terry
04-18-2011, 09:08 AM
I too have been looking in local stores. Specifically trying to find some Waffle-Weave microfiber drying towels...To no avail. Might make an online purchase here pretty soon. Might as well get a bucket, MF mitt, and one of those guards too :)

Marcus-SanDiego
04-18-2011, 09:26 AM
I got my grit guards from Detailed Image (http://www.detailedimage.com/wax.php?id=13407&url=detailedimage.com) but I got my buckets from Home Depot. The 5-gallon orange buckets are perfect. The grit guard goes all the way to the bottom. I've tried other 5-gallon buckets that had narrow bottoms, so the grit guard only goes down about three quarters of the way. Just FYI for anyone looking to use grit guards from Detailed Image.

spencers
04-18-2011, 12:22 PM
I got my grit guards from Detailed Image but I got my buckets from Home Depot. The 5-gallon orange buckets are perfect. The grit guard goes all the way to the bottom. I've tried other 5-gallon buckets that had narrow bottoms, so the grit guard only goes down about three quarters of the way. Just FYI for anyone looking to use grit guards from Detailed Image.

Ditto. They work perfectly

bullfrogs_M3
04-19-2011, 07:17 AM
m0nk3y anything else you think i'll need?

http://www.detailedimage.com/wax.php?id=13407&url=detailedimage.com/Cart-Saved/538167514/

I plan to get the Black WOW and Blue Magic locally.

spencers
04-19-2011, 08:48 AM
^ I'm not sure I'd get that $90 dodojuice package.. Seems excessive.
Just get the 30mL thing of hard candy wax; it'll last you longer than you think.

danewilson77
04-19-2011, 08:52 AM
^ I'm not sure I'd get that $90 dodojuice package.. Seems excessive.
Just get the 30mL thing of hard candy wax; it'll last you longer than you think.

I have waxed my car numerous times with the lil jar.....the big jar may be a better value though. IDK?

L0veZHP
04-19-2011, 09:10 AM
Nice write up plan on using all of these when the summer hits.

M0nk3y
04-19-2011, 09:21 AM
m0nk3y anything else you think i'll need?
http://www.detailedimage.com/wax.php?id=13407&url=detailedimage.com/Cart-Saved/538167514/

I plan to get the Black WOW and Blue Magic locally.

Get a Quick Detailer from local auto store. Meguiars works perfectly fine, and is cheaper.

Personally, I use this: http://www.detailedimage.com/wax.php?id=13407&url=detailedimage.com/Poorboys-World-M1/Spray-Wipe-SW-P32/16-oz-S1//

As well, I wouldn't get that Kit. It's overkill...The CG Wash will essentially act the same as the paint cleaner. No sense of overdoing it product wise.

The Hard Candy does last a LONG time, lol. I've been using it for a year, stripping and re-waxing every 2 weeks and I've barely made a dent in it. I feel like the 30 ml should serve you well until you want to invest into a more expensive wax.

I also got HC because I use it on multiple cars. If you're going to just use it on your black car, look into:

http://www.detailedimage.com/wax.php?id=13407&url=detailedimage.com/Dodo-Juice-M35/Hard-Candy-Hard-Wax-P238/30-ml-S2/

With the money saved, I'd possibly look into a sealant as well. Sealant + Wax will give you the best of both worlds. Protection and Depth

JetSeal 109 is amazing on dark paint. Match that up with wax = :drool:

http://www.detailedimage.com/wax.php?id=13407&url=detailedimage.com/Chemical-Guys-M31/Jet-Seal-109-P184/16-oz-S1/

Again, take this as suggestions. You can do whatever you want. but the 30ml sample should give you a pretty good lifetime. And that allows you to invest into a sealant, have more protection, and save money

Terry
04-19-2011, 09:34 AM
Thanks Marcus. Picked up two of those beautiful buckets yesterday along with a couple of other supplies.

Looking forward to a warm day here so I can get her all cleaned up!

Kyle, thanks again for the guide. That definitely took some time and we appreciate your expertise and efforts in trying to preserve our passions :)

-T

bullfrogs_M3
04-19-2011, 09:37 AM
Thanks for the updated info guys. I updated my cart and will order this up today. Sounds like I will have enough product to do my car and the wife's Sapphire Black X5 too.

M0nk3y
04-19-2011, 12:18 PM
Thanks for the updated info guys. I updated my cart and will order this up today. Sounds like I will have enough product to do my car and the wife's Sapphire Black X5 too.

You'll have enough product for awhile! Enjoy

bullfrogs_M3
04-19-2011, 01:01 PM
One question on your guide though...

You have sealant THEN wax. But wouldn't sealant go on after you wax? Or is that not the purpose of sealant?

M0nk3y
04-19-2011, 01:45 PM
One question on your guide though...

You have sealant THEN wax. But wouldn't sealant go on after you wax? Or is that not the purpose of sealant?

Sealant is made to bond directly to paint. It's a longer lasting protection material, so it's going to be going under the wax. So in order of operations; it will go Sealant then Wax.

Apply the sealant, and let it dry on the car for an hour. After that remove it with a microfiber towel and let it cure for a full 24 hours. Then you can apply the wax.

The wax will last you about a month, then once that wears away...you will still have about 3-4 months of GOOD sealant protection

danewilson77
04-19-2011, 03:01 PM
The sealant I have....the Wolfgang 3.0....says your supposed to mist it with water and wipe it off during the install process to enhance the depth. Do you do this Kyle?

HokieZHP
11-21-2011, 02:04 PM
If I'm doing a glaze, when should I apply it? After clay and before wax? I'm using "chemical guys extreme EZ-Creme Glaze w/ Acrylic shine II"


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Go Horns!
11-21-2011, 06:09 PM
If I'm doing a glaze, when should I apply it? After clay and before wax? I'm using "chemical guys extreme EZ-Creme Glaze w/ Acrylic shine II"

Clay, wash, glaze, sealant, wax.

The wash gets rid of any particles the clay loosened but did not not remove. The sealant is optional, but recommended.

M0nk3y
11-21-2011, 07:37 PM
The sealant I have....the Wolfgang 3.0....says your supposed to mist it with water and wipe it off during the install process to enhance the depth. Do you do this Kyle?

I don't. Never realized that TBH. I believe the water is just just pick up the dust that is created when you wipe off the sealant. Without the dust might enhance the depth?


If I'm doing a glaze, when should I apply it? After clay and before wax? I'm using "chemical guys extreme EZ-Creme Glaze w/ Acrylic shine II"


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Go Horns has it right.

HokieZHP
11-22-2011, 06:30 AM
Alright. What's the best sealant that I can get locally at an auto parts store for my Jet Black ZHP?


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Go Horns!
11-22-2011, 03:38 PM
Liquid Glass Sounds like your best option if you are looking for something you can go in a store and buy.

http://www.autogeek.net/liqglasautpo.html
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007ZFTJA/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=zhpcom-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399373&creativeASIN=B0007ZFTJA

Advance Auto Parts (http://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-4193730-10709358) - Store 8459
1744 FORDHAM BLVD
CHAPEL HILL, NC, 27514
919-932-7526

Has it in stock. $25.59.

danewilson77
11-22-2011, 03:43 PM
Alright. What's the best sealant that I can get locally at an auto parts store for my Jet Black ZHP?


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Meguiar's Gold Class (http://www.kqzyfj.com/click-4193730-10771029) ....

HTC Thunderbolt+TT

WOLFN8TR
12-10-2011, 11:27 AM
Bookmarked

Grit Guards, never seen those before, nice.

M0nk3y
12-10-2011, 12:39 PM
Good Bump here...T-Minus EXACTLY 1 week til a Polishing Guide starts writing. Who's ready?

Go Horns!
12-10-2011, 06:17 PM
Good Bump here...T-Minus EXACTLY 1 week til a Polishing Guide starts writing. Who's ready?

My trunk. PO put a magnetic sat radio antenna on it. Hoping Santa brings me a porter cable for Christmas.

bullfrogs_M3
12-20-2011, 04:02 PM
Good Bump here...T-Minus EXACTLY 1 week til a Polishing Guide starts writing. Who's ready?

Hey Monkey, what equipment will you be using, ie: orbitals?

M0nk3y
12-20-2011, 04:35 PM
Hey Monkey, what equipment will you be using, ie: orbitals?

I used a Makita 9227c Rotary and a Porter Cable Dual Action.

The write-up will have to be on delay, I took an internship and don't have time right now.

bullfrogs_M3
12-20-2011, 04:40 PM
I used a Makita 9227c Rotary and a Porter Cable Dual Action.

The write-up will have to be on delay, I took an internship and don't have time right now.

pfffttt whatever.......cars, money, hoes. In that order. lol

All seriousness though, good luck with the job. I am going to be getting either a Flex or Porter Cable within the next few weeks so I am anxiously waiting to see this writeup. So far everything you have recommended for product and procedures have been spot on and made my car look incredible. :thumbsup

M0nk3y
12-20-2011, 04:44 PM
pfffttt whatever.......cars, money, hoes. In that order. lol

All seriousness though, good luck with the job. I am going to be getting either a Flex or Porter Cable within the next few weeks so I am anxiously waiting to see this writeup. So far everything you have recommended for product and procedures have been spot on and made my car look incredible. :thumbsup

IMO, for the price...You can get a PC and Rotary for the same price of a Flex. The Flex is nice, but it's overpriced and you can get more correction for less money.

Just my opinion.