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llll1l1ll
09-23-2011, 07:56 AM
Hey Mafia,

Stupid question incoming: is the only difference between hard and soft wax the longevity and ease of application? For instance, the soft wax is easier to work with but won't last as long? Or the hard wax is easier to get a thin film and then lasts slightly longer?

Just wondering. I'm about to buy some wax for my black sapphire. Dodo Juice, probably.

Best,
Peter

danewilson77
09-23-2011, 09:08 AM
Hey Mafia,

Stupid question incoming: is the only difference between hard and soft wax the longevity and ease of application? For instance, the soft wax is easier to work with but won't last as long? Or the hard wax is easier to get a thin film and then lasts slightly longer?

Just wondering. I'm about to buy some wax for my black sapphire. Dodo Juice, probably.

Best,
Peter

Dodo juice Hard Candy for dark colors, no?

llll1l1ll
09-23-2011, 09:20 AM
I was going to get either Hard Candy or the Purple Haze. They seem suitable...

jreyes19
09-23-2011, 09:31 AM
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-university/16301-hard-wax-vs-soft-wax-final-thread-2.html

this was quite helpful
it goes up to about 48hours and shows their differences

this may help in your decision

llll1l1ll
09-23-2011, 09:43 AM
This is good information.

Thanks, Mafia!

johnrando
09-23-2011, 09:52 AM
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-university/16301-hard-wax-vs-soft-wax-final-thread-2.html

this was quite helpful
it goes up to about 48hours and shows their differences

this may help in your decision

Did I miss something? I never saw a conclusion or a later comparison after time. They both seemed to be about the same, right?

bullfrogs_M3
09-23-2011, 09:55 AM
Both hard AND soft

I use Dodo Juice Hard and Dodo Juice Soft when waxing the car. Since I have a black car, I use the appropriate wax for it.

Dodo Juice Blue Velvet first:
http://www.detailedimage.com/Dodo-Juice-M35/Blue-Velvet-Hard-wax-P241/30-ml-S2/

Dodo Juice Purple Haze second:
http://www.detailedimage.com/Dodo-Juice-M35/Purple-Haze-Soft-Wax-P237/30-ml-S2/

Make no mistake, 30ml Pots will go A LONG WAY!! I was gonna get the larger ones but ended up with the 30ml pots and after two wax sessions, I still have about 3/4 left of each.

Look at the 4 or 8 pot kits to really bring out your color: (Great price BTW for these kits)
http://www.detailedimage.com/Dodo-Juice-M35/Soft-4-Panel-Pot-Kit-P244/4-x-30-ml-S1/ <- 4 pot
http://www.detailedimage.com/Dodo-Juice-M35/Hard-4-Panel-Pot-Kit-P245/4-x-30-ml-S1/ <- 4 pot
http://www.detailedimage.com/Dodo-Juice-M35/Straight-8-Panel-Pot-Kit-P246/8-x-30-ml-S1/ <- 8 pot

johnrando
09-23-2011, 09:58 AM
Both hard AND soft

I use Dodo Juice Hard and Dodo Juice Soft when waxing the car. Since I have a black car, I use the appropriate wax for it.

Dodo Juice Blue Velvet first:
http://www.detailedimage.com/Dodo-Juice-M35/Blue-Velvet-Hard-wax-P241/30-ml-S2/

Dodo Juice Purple Haze second:
http://www.detailedimage.com/Dodo-Juice-M35/Purple-Haze-Soft-Wax-P237/30-ml-S2/

Make no mistake, 30ml Pots will go A LONG WAY!! I was gonna get the larger ones but ended up with the 30ml pots and after two wax sessions, I still have about 3/4 left of each.

Look at the 4 or 8 pot kits to really bring out your color: (Great price BTW for these kits)
http://www.detailedimage.com/Dodo-Juice-M35/Soft-4-Panel-Pot-Kit-P244/4-x-30-ml-S1/ <- 4 pot
http://www.detailedimage.com/Dodo-Juice-M35/Hard-4-Panel-Pot-Kit-P245/4-x-30-ml-S1/ <- 4 pot
http://www.detailedimage.com/Dodo-Juice-M35/Straight-8-Panel-Pot-Kit-P246/8-x-30-ml-S1/ <- 8 pot

Even thought they are for dark, do they still leave that white wax dust?

jreyes19
09-23-2011, 09:59 AM
Did I miss something? I never saw a conclusion or a later comparison after time. They both seemed to be about the same, right?

ya that is why i said it only went up to the 48 hour mark :(

i like you found them to be the same but that the application process was different
just thought that the pictures would bring light to the point that they are minutely different in their results (from what i see)

i personally use soft, but not because i think it is better
but because thats what ive always used :)

bullfrogs_M3
09-23-2011, 10:03 AM
Even thought they are for dark, do they still leave that white wax dust?

If done properly, nope. In fact, if done improperly, no. haa I haven't found where I have a white residue, unless it was with my polish. I still haven't found a polish that I like that DOESN'T leave a residue for some reason. Then again, it is usually 100 degrees in the shade, in the garage when I am working on the car and my sections dry SUPER fast. Maybe when it cools down I won't have that problem. I haven't tried a dodo juice polish yet, but if it is half as good as the waxes then it should be pretty awesome.

Monkey should be the one to jump in here and tell you about the haze or dust. I am referring to the haze when I am talking though. Is that what you meant?

M0nk3y
09-23-2011, 10:09 AM
From what I've always been reading, soft wax contains less carnauba content for ease of applying and removing. Hard wax contains a bit more carnauba (more carnauba content leads to a harder wax).

I personally use both. I have the hard candy pot and rain forest rub pot. The pot lasts a really long time, so if you don't wax like crazy or do family cars, id suggest the 30ml mini pot. Using a foam applicator will greatly reduce over-use

Hard goes on before soft. Therefore the soft wears away first and you have a fresh coat of hard goes underneath. This extends use overall

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llll1l1ll
09-23-2011, 10:15 AM
I mean, I'm just your average car-care guy. I clay once a year, and wax about 2-4 times per year. I wash about every other week.

I think I'll just get the hard wax since that seems about what I'm used to. I've been using Meguiar's Cleaner Wax on my E30 for as long as I've had it. The ZHP is better, so I want to use a better wax.

I should really do sealant, but I don't have a garage to keep it in so it can all cure.

EDIT: I don't wanna come across as lazy or neglectful by any means! I'm just saying I do what I can that's within my means.