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    Was going to ask you folks if I should move my Hotchkis bar to medium stiff before AutoX this Saturday... I believe it's slightly stiffer than the UUC sway. My spring rates are slightly lower than Derek's and my camber also slightly less negative (around -2.9F, -1.9R). But my tires are not as sticky.

    Is it correct to assume that
    --Stickier tires can handle stiffer swaybar?
    --More negative front camber can handle stiffer front swaybar?
    --Going to stiffer springs means should make swaybar less stiff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LivesNearCostco View Post
    Was going to ask you folks if I should move my Hotchkis bar to medium stiff before AutoX this Saturday... I believe it's slightly stiffer than the UUC sway. My spring rates are slightly lower than Derek's and my camber also slightly less negative (around -2.9F, -1.9R). But my tires are not as sticky.

    Is it correct to assume that
    --Stickier tires can handle stiffer swaybar?
    --More negative front camber can handle stiffer front swaybar?
    --Going to stiffer springs means should make swaybar less stiff?
    Did you end up making it stiffer in the front?


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    Yes and not sure if it has more or less grip than at soft. Ran soft at Laguna Seca and it felt good. Ran medium for AutoX and it felt good. Conclusion is that both soft and medium on Hotchkis front bar are better than stock bar, but not sure which setting is better. Next steps are...
    1) Practice looking ahead at next AutoX
    2) Practice driving closer to tires' limit more of the time
    3) Wear out XtremDW tires and buy either Hankook R-S3 or Bridgestone RE-11a

    My thinking is even if the medium stiff setting is not faster now, it will be better than the soft setting once I get better tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LivesNearCostco View Post
    Yes and not sure if it has more or less grip than at soft. Ran soft at Laguna Seca and it felt good. Ran medium for AutoX and it felt good. Conclusion is that both soft and medium on Hotchkis front bar are better than stock bar, but not sure which setting is better. Next steps are...
    1) Practice looking ahead at next AutoX
    2) Practice driving closer to tires' limit more of the time
    3) Wear out XtremDW tires and buy either Hankook R-S3 or Bridgestone RE-11a

    My thinking is even if the medium stiff setting is not faster now, it will be better than the soft setting once I get better tires.
    Avoid RE-11a tires. Rated nice on tirerack, and that is where it ends. Look into Dunlop ZIIs

    Medium stiff now with OK tires currently will overpower the tires and limit grip. Keep it on soft until new tires are on.

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    What is the downside of RE-11a tires? In a recent Tire Rack test, they showed less dry grip than the Star Spec ZII or the BFG Rivals, but had less road noise for street driving. Since should be dedicated track tires, I was thinking road noise is not my biggest concern.

    Do they not handle heat well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LivesNearCostco View Post
    What is the downside of RE-11a tires? In a recent Tire Rack test, they showed less dry grip than the Star Spec ZII or the BFG Rivals, but had less road noise for street driving. Since should be dedicated track tires, I was thinking road noise is not my biggest concern.

    Do they not handle heat well?
    They hate heat, and cannot hold grip for long.

    In sweepers, for example, the tire will hold, and release and give up grip. You have to back down and let the tire settle down before regaining threshold grip, and it will start to grip again....but it will let go early. It cannot hold grip throughout a turn, only early.

    I didn't like them when I drove on them

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    thanks for the tips! Guess my next tires need to be StarSpec IIs or Hankook R-S3s.

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    I really liked the re11 vs my star spec 1 but that was the old generation. I want to try the star spec 2s


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    bump since the topic arose again and I didn't replace my front bar yet.

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    Well, in my opinion....I didn't like the Z2s

    As well, my earlier posts regarding a rear bar...I have since added one to remove understeer


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