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    Quote Originally Posted by az3579 View Post
    Watching the first 3 minutes made me sick. The lack of car control and complete disregard for safety (no roll bars, the Miata driver even had a bottle of something in the passenger footwell) is appalling. I stopped watching.
    Lift-off oversteer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornung418 View Post
    Very easily correctable lift-off oversteer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by az3579 View Post
    Fixed.
    Yes...but you know they're rookies. Its super funny to watch the three cars just get ruined. It looks like they know each other. And thy are the only ones occupying the track. Don't get worried about their lack of saftey, its just a video.

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    I'm trying to make sense of how they keep on spinning out. I never tracked before however this seems very interesting. Hopefully someone can explain it to me.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Tnhl1989 View Post
    I'm trying to make sense of how they keep on spinning out. I never tracked before however this seems very interesting. Hopefully someone can explain it to me.
    The rear end started to slide out from them and they apparently didn't notice that the rear of the car wanted to start passing the front.
    The way it starts varies from car to car. Some cars get what Justin described, lift-off oversteer, which happens when you're in the middle of the corner and you lift off the throttle. Not every car will oversteer in this scenario, but you shouldn't take your foot off the throttle in the middle of a corner. Bad practice.

    There's also power oversteer, which happens when you have an abundance of power and you apply it abruptly with the car turned in.

    There's also a Scandanavian Flick, but that is a very deliberate act and usually applied when you're trying to force the car to oversteer by upsetting the balance of the car and applying throttle appropriately. Usually needed for the lower power cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by az3579 View Post
    The rear end started to slide out from them and they apparently didn't notice that the rear of the car wanted to start passing the front.
    The way it starts varies from car to car. Some cars get what Justin described, lift-off oversteer, which happens when you're in the middle of the corner and you lift off the throttle. Not every car will oversteer in this scenario, but you shouldn't take your foot off the throttle in the middle of a corner. Bad practice.
    not to add insult to injury, but... clearly these guys, besides not knowing how to control a vehicle (my son, who is 7, has better car control instincts that those guys)... probably don't know what state their tires are in, what their alignment settings are like, etc. they need an instructor BADLY, simply put! i feel sorry for them.

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    Uh.... display of poor driving but I guess they were having fun and not hurting anyone so... I couldn't even watch it past 2 minutes.
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    Forgive me if this showed up somewhere else already...

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