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    Differential Diagnosis: FCAB vs Wheel bearings

    So I recently started having a noise coming from the front end at low speeds <30mph, sounds similar to a bad hub I had on my truck previous to the ZHP. Did some research pulled the tires to check the hubs, they don't really sound that bad compared to the youtube videos Ive seen. I also examined my tires and believe that I am having some "feathering" or "cupping" not sure which (looking at the pictures the inside tire track is the the left side margin of the page). These apparently are attributed to worn out suspension components...leading me to my next idea the FCAB's. I saw videos on these being worn out and while I do not think mine are that bad, I believe they need replacement. In the video below you can see them move...Im assuming this is more than normal? :shrugg: Anyways...filmed it with my phone...at the beginning I was shaking it mildly, then got more aggressive at the end...Let me know y'alls thoughts
    http://youtu.be/JXBLrJ3EFVk

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    OEM bushings or have they been replaced before? If they have been replaced how long ago and with what brand?

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    From your video, I would think FCABs. You say you were shaking it aggressively at the end. Think about it, if you're 200 lbs you might have gotten 1/4 to 1/3 of your weight into that shaking, so 50-65 lbs of force. You car weighs about 3200 lbs, say each corner is 800 lbs, every bump & imperfection in the road is subjecting that FCAB to 12-15 times the force you were shaking into it. After new FCABs, you will see no movement of the LCA inside that FCAB.

    And if you want your front suspension real tight, do the same thing and look at your tie rods. Our cars also get some play in the tierods such that they can be wandering and cause tire scrub. But if your issue is inner tire wear, then you might be running too much negative camber.

    Bruce
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCS_ZHP View Post
    From your video, I would think FCABs. You say you were shaking it aggressively at the end. Think about it, if you're 200 lbs you might have gotten 1/4 to 1/3 of your weight into that shaking, so 50-65 lbs of force. You car weighs about 3200 lbs, say each corner is 800 lbs, every bump & imperfection in the road is subjecting that FCAB to 12-15 times the force you were shaking into it. After new FCABs, you will see no movement of the LCA inside that FCAB.

    And if you want your front suspension real tight, do the same thing and look at your tie rods. Our cars also get some play in the tierods such that they can be wandering and cause tire scrub. But if your issue is inner tire wear, then you might be running too much negative camber.
    Yea your right...time to change them.

    OEM bushings 84K on the odo.

    Would an alignment be enough to correct the toe/camber?...the rear tires are fine, I rotated them today as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELCID86 View Post
    Are those tires not directional (one way)?


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    yes they are. How do I rotate them since I am running a non square- OEM setup?

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    Can you even do it? Aside from dismounting.

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    No, you cannot rotate a directional staggered set up. Just get prepared to replace your rear tires every 17-20K miles and your fronts half as much.

    Bruce
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    16 X5 M-Sport - wife
    11 M3 - 1st son
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    17 X1 M-Sport - daughter

    Former (mo/yr sold):
    15 335xi M-Sport (8/18)
    11 335is (8/17)
    11 X5 AW/blk (11/15)
    04 330xi blk/gray (7/15)
    06 ZHP SGM/blk (6/15)
    08 335xi blue/blk (4/15)
    04 ZHPci MB/blk (2/14)
    04 ZHPcic IR/Alc (10/13)
    01 540iT anthra/blk (7/13)
    04 ZHPci TIAG/blk (9/12)
    03 540i M-Sport (9/12)
    01 325ci (3/12)
    02 325iT 5MT (10/11)
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    Your video's of the control arm bushings; where's the "ftab" term coming from? I just replaced mine and it was a pretty easy job (and I didn't buy replacement brackets; I had access to a hydraulic press). I've read that they tend to wear out after 30-40k miles. As replacement parts go, they're pretty cheap. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCS_ZHP View Post
    No, you cannot rotate a directional staggered set up. Just get prepared to replace your rear tires every 17-20K miles and your fronts half as much.
    Or as stated, remove from rim and reverse the rubber.


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