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    Quote Originally Posted by slater View Post
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    for our cars...

    1. they look cooler
    2. likely better straight-line stability
    3. see #1


    ultimately a square setup makes more sense as you can rotate tires, and the car will rotate better (less understeer). i don't think our cars have enough power to really necessitate a staggered setup, however i have not tracked my car yet.

    you're running a square setup on your winter wheels/tires, correct? i am too but i have a 10mm spacer in the rear, which is kinda like having wider rubber in the back, to a point - but the goal was stability in the snow.

    peter
    Peter, I have liked the more neutral feeling to the square setup, but you and John are right in the looks department. I miss the "phat" squat to the rear when I glance at her backside...I think I will run staggered with a nicer/non-runflat set of summers and see how she was meant to be before maybe mixing it up farther down the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoVAphotog View Post
    Peter, I have liked the more neutral feeling to the square setup, but you and John are right in the looks department. I miss the "phat" squat to the rear when I glance at her backside...I think I will run staggered with a nicer/non-runflat set of summers and see how she was meant to be before maybe mixing it up farther down the line.
    yeah, non-RF tires will be a major difference all by themselves!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by slater View Post
    yeah, non-RF tires will be a major difference all by themselves!!

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  4. #24
    Personally, I love the look of staggered fitment. Seeing that wide tire in back and the stance. Yeah...for me it's all about the look. Staggered and low....just love that look

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    +1. My e90 has staggered setup, OEM wheels style 162. Oh boy ... the looks !

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    So you cannot put 2 wider rear wheels on the front to make square. You have to give up the wider rears to go square?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorCalZman View Post
    So you cannot put 2 wider rear wheels on the front to make square. You have to give up the wider rears to go square?
    Nope. Most who run a square setup run 4 of the wider rears. The "look" goes away because you run a smaller size tire all around so the squat/phat ass look is no longer as defined. Spacers help but it is not as prominent as having the wheel/tire combo. You can run 4 fronts but it doesn't look as good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cakM3 View Post
    Personally, I love the look of staggered fitment. Seeing that wide tire in back and the stance. Yeah...for me it's all about the look. Staggered and low....just love that look



    amen to this.



    I'm looking for a spare set of staggered 135s now to refinish for spring time, then ill use my current set as winter wheels.
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    If anybody has a spare set, I'd like to buy a set of relatively clean 135s.

    I've got some VMR knockoff M3 CSL wheels and I'd like to go back to OE.

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