peter + zhp = 1, storm = 0

[cakM3]

Love it! Very challenging in eastern canada over the last couple days... I've been aching for an LSD for the last couple days.

You want LSD.....I'm so glad I got LSD for my ZHP Makes for lots of fun driving in the snow

[slater]

You want LSD.....I'm so glad I got LSD for my ZHP Makes for lots of fun driving in the snow

i've been seriously contemplating a helical LSD (quaife). perhaps dan @ diffsonline will give alex and i a break if we drive down and get 2 diffs?

peter

[NorCalZman]

wow. Does the E46's DSC kick in a lot in that kind of weather?

[itdnwiwbp]

update: turns out the oscillation was HIDDEN crap in the wheels. it was sand ice that had built up almost 1" right behind where the wheel spokes meet the barrel of the wheel - i could not see it from the outside (i could see the back 5" of the barrel). only noticed it on the hoist!

peter

Glad it was an easy fix!

[cakM3]

i've been seriously contemplating a helical LSD (quaife). perhaps dan @ diffsonline will give alex and i a break if we drive down and get 2 diffs?

peter

Look into their quality and longevity. I thought there was a thread discussing failures of quaife diffs recently.....just be sure you're getting a good one

[slater]

wow. Does the E46's DSC kick in a lot in that kind of weather?

under acceleration, yes - of course, a lot depends on your tires and the amount of throttle you are applying. i have learned how to pull away from a stop in any amount of snow (slush or 5"), and get up through the gears without engaging DSC. it basically means crazy precise throttle control. i think an LSD would help significantly as i'd be driving two wheels instead of just one.

under steady-state cruising, no, DSC does not kick in - unless of course you are sliding sideways, then it does. i didn't have any instances of it coming on on the highway the other night. on the unplowed stuff, maybe 2-3 times.

i gotta admit - the DSC system works really, really well. i've been, ahem, experimenting with it off (leaving DTC on) recently and while you can get the rear end out easily with it off... with it on, it sorts everything out nicely. even mid-corner, it will settle the car and allow you to carry on without any drama. amazing.

Glad it was an easy fix!

me too!

Look into their quality and longevity. I thought there was a thread discussing failures of quaife diffs recently.....just be sure you're getting a good one

ben (fenrir) was touting the quaife's longevity recently - it was the OS Giken that was failing.

i've had extremely positive results with quaife in the past - the only thing deterring me at this point is the price tag!

peter

[cakM3]

under acceleration, yes - of course, a lot depends on your tires and the amount of throttle you are applying. i have learned how to pull away from a stop in any amount of snow (slush or 5"), and get up through the gears without engaging DSC. it basically means crazy precise throttle control. i think an LSD would help significantly as i'd be driving two wheels instead of just one.

under steady-state cruising, no, DSC does not kick in - unless of course you are sliding sideways, then it does. i didn't have any instances of it coming on on the highway the other night. on the unplowed stuff, maybe 2-3 times.

i gotta admit - the DSC system works really, really well. i've been, ahem, experimenting with it off (leaving DTC on) recently and while you can get the rear end out easily with it off... with it on, it sorts everything out nicely. even mid-corner, it will settle the car and allow you to carry on without any drama. amazing.




me too!




ben (fenrir) was touting the quaife's longevity recently - it was the OS Giken that was failing.

i've had extremely positive results with quaife in the past - the only thing deterring me at this point is the price tag!

peter

That's right! Thanks for the correction Peter! Just making sure

As they say...... If you want to play, you gotta pay

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[NorCalZman]

i gotta admit - the DSC system works really, really well. i've been, ahem, experimenting with it off (leaving DTC on) recently and while you can get the rear end out easily with it off... with it on, it sorts everything out nicely. even mid-corner, it will settle the car and allow you to carry on without any drama. amazing.

Jeremy Clarkson specifically called out our DSC system as being pretty amazing in his review, so I have no doubt. I have not had to have it save me (yet) so I don't even know what it feels like when it kicks in and we don't get snow down here so can't use it that way....haha

[az3579]

wow. Does the E46's DSC kick in a lot in that kind of weather?

Personally I always turn traction control completely off when there's snow on the ground. It always kills the power far too much, making left turns almost impossible. Good clutch/throttle control and winter tires is all you need in the snow. I find when I turn it off, I actually get better traction because sometimes that tiny bit of slip is enough to give it some friction, if that makes sense. If it kills the power, I go nowhere, fast.

[slater]

Jeremy Clarkson specifically called out our DSC system as being pretty amazing in his review, so I have no doubt. I have not had to have it save me (yet) so I don't even know what it feels like when it kicks in and we don't get snow down here so can't use it that way....haha

you're not pushing it hard enough. it comes on in the dry for me!

Personally I always turn traction control completely off when there's snow on the ground. It always kills the power far too much, making left turns almost impossible. Good clutch/throttle control and winter tires is all you need in the snow. I find when I turn it off, I actually get better traction because sometimes that tiny bit of slip is enough to give it some friction, if that makes sense. If it kills the power, I go nowhere, fast.

yeah, i turn it off sometimes for more slip/grip. depends on the surface. if it's slush then DSC-off works better.

i'm loving RWD in the winter, this car does not plow (understeer) in the snow like all of my previous cars (FWD and then AWD).

peter