ZHPizza's red car

[san]

Simple: I'm single and don't have children.

But seriously, I have a (fairly) strict "nothing in without something out" policy.
Buy new seats? Old ones have to go.
Buy new wheels? Old ones are gone.

I'm kinda the same, the only reason I bought the intake and exhaust for my car is because I can recoup most of the money I spent on them if I have/need to...


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[san]

Thanks for the pics and good thinking on using the jack stand as an extra safety layer


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[slater]

I think we can bring the ratio down for the Camry. Put some coilovers on, and some reverse-staggered wheels/tires to reduce the understeer. Though with 268 horses on tap, you might be entering ZHP slayer territory.

it could have 500hp, and would still suck. have you driven a newer camry? my father-in-law has one. he got the 'sport' package (note the quotes), auto with flappy paddles, etc. and the 4 cylinder. it has a decent driving position, but that's it. it has a lousy transmission - it shifts so slowly, there is no need for flappy paddles. it has one of the worst engine notes (calling it's tone an 'engine note' may even be too kind - it's noise) i've ever heard. a school bus sounds better. the 'sport' suspension is too hard and crashes over smooth pavement. and it's hideously ugly.

my mother-in-law just bought a new corolla S. it actually is about 100x nicer to drive than the camry, but it's still a boring appliance.

We have 2 (2014, 2016) Camrys at work. They are absolutely horrible. I've logged 15k miles or more in them over the last 8 months and I literally don't have a single good thing to say. I would rather drive a late-90s Honda Civic.

amen, brother!

So you could always drive up on some boards and stack blocks of wood with the rubber blocks to get more height. I'm very happy with the height as it was tonight, though. Hopefully I'll get some time under it this weekend to have a better feel for it.

thanks for the pics, nate.... that is awesome. love the re-purposed jack stand! great idea.

[Stigissimo]

I dunno, the ZHP fun factor is pretty quantifiable. I think the going rate is 2.7 GTIs, and about 12.4 Camrys to the ZHP. I'd launch 11.4 of them off of a bridge and donate the last one to someone who needs it.

Have you owned a GTI? Curious about how the driving experience of a ZHP compares.


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[holyc0w]

it could have 500hp, and would still suck. have you driven a newer camry? my father-in-law has one. he got the 'sport' package (note the quotes), auto with flappy paddles, etc. and the 4 cylinder. it has a decent driving position, but that's it. it has a lousy transmission - it shifts so slowly, there is no need for flappy paddles. it has one of the worst engine notes (calling it's tone an 'engine note' may even be too kind - it's noise) i've ever heard. a school bus sounds better. the 'sport' suspension is too hard and crashes over smooth pavement. and it's hideously ugly.

my mother-in-law just bought a new corolla S. it actually is about 100x nicer to drive than the camry, but it's still a boring appliance.

No, I haven't driven a newer Camry nor have much desire to. If I was looking in that direction, Mazda would be the first stop and then Honda, Kia and Hyundai. I'm not too bothered with slow shifting transmissions since I had one for several years. I drove a 2007 Corolla and it seemed alright. It just needs a bigger armrest, but yeah..the engine sounds a bit toaster-ish.

[Sockethead]

We got a Camry as rental last year... a horrible car... I was surprised by how bad it was since it's always a top seller

[704sw]

We got a Camry as rental last year... a horrible car... I was surprised by how bad it was since it's always a top seller

Just proves you can sell people anything.

My family has had 6 different Lexus's in the driveway since '92. It's been very interesting to see the rise through the 90s and decline in Toyota quality. It looks nice, sure; but you can put lipstick on a pig and it's still a pig.

[Karl Lazlo]

We got a Camry as rental last year... a horrible car... I was surprised by how bad it was since it's always a top seller

Please don't insult my beloved Camry. Ruby Red.

[ZHPizza]

Are y'all about done talking about how shitty the Camry is?

[704sw]

Are y'all about done talking about how shitty the Camry is?

Yea. Let's talk about lift-time this weekend. CDV delete+brake adjustment?