How to enable triple blink on a 4.5 LCM using NCS Expert?

[az3579]

On Windows 8 (Build 9600), I get the following when I double click on NCSDummy.exe



If I click 'skip' nothing happens and NCSDummy does not launch. If I click "Download and install this feature", I get the following screen:



It stays like this for a while and eventually errors out with the following:



I know my internet connection on the laptop is solid and its sitting right next to the router, so "unable to connect to the internet" seems like a BS error message.

Tried using 'compatibility mode - Windows XP' and its still the same. Windows 8 comes with a later version of .NET Framework, why does it need the older 3.5 version?

Sigh.
It looks like it's a similar same issue that plagues Server 2012; it can't seem to install .NET 3.5 as a feature when joined to a domain. I always have to forcefeed our servers the install by attaching the install media and running a PowerShell script to install the feature. Yours isn't exactly the same problem, but the solution should be the same:

If you have it, insert your Windows 8 media into the disc drive (or USB if you have it on that). Then, open up PowerShell as Administrator and use the following commands to install the feature:

Install-WindowsFeature NET-Framework-Core -Source D:\sources\sxs
(copy and paste to get the spacing right, it's hard to see because of the font)

Change D: to the drive letter where the install mediaresides.

[Overboost]

NCS Dummy does require Microsoft .Net Framework 3.5 so try downloading directly from Microsoft here. That's what I did and it did take a while but went through but both of my downloads were on XP OS. Try from this link.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down...ils.aspx?id=21

[derbo]

NCS Dummy does require Microsoft .Net Framework 3.5 so try downloading directly from Microsoft here. That's what I did and it did take a while but went through but both of my downloads were on XP OS. Try from this link.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down...ils.aspx?id=21

Beat me to it.


NCSDummy needs to be used to create the extra lines. LCM will accept up to 7. You just make up parameters and edit the DATEN files for the .C37 module. Then code in. I added the names in german

[anandoc]

Sigh.
It looks like it's a similar same issue that plagues Server 2012; it can't seem to install .NET 3.5 as a feature when joined to a domain. I always have to forcefeed our servers the install by attaching the install media and running a PowerShell script to install the feature. Yours isn't exactly the same problem, but the solution should be the same:

If you have it, insert your Windows 8 media into the disc drive (or USB if you have it on that). Then, open up PowerShell as Administrator and use the following commands to install the feature:

Install-WindowsFeature NET-Framework-Core -Source D:\sources\sxs
(copy and paste to get the spacing right, it's hard to see because of the font)

Change D: to the drive letter where the install mediaresides.

NCS Dummy does require Microsoft .Net Framework 3.5 so try downloading directly from Microsoft here. That's what I did and it did take a while but went through but both of my downloads were on XP OS. Try from this link.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down...ils.aspx?id=21

Beat me to it.
NCSDummy needs to be used to create the extra lines. LCM will accept up to 7. You just make up parameters and edit the DATEN files for the .C37 module. Then code in. I added the names in german

Thank you very much, gentlemen!!

I took BP's route but instead of using PowerShell, I used good old command prompt with the following command:

Dism /online /enable-feature /featurename:NetFx3 /All /Source:D:\sources\sxs /LimitAccess

So that resolved the .NET Framework not installing on Windows 8 and now NCSDummy launches without any issues.

Since I have never used NCSDummy before, I need to familiarize myself with how it works and how to go about using it. Found a decent link here:

https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...-of-NCS-Expert

My understanding is that NCSDummy makes edits to the respective daten files (LCZ.C37 in this case) and from there I can use that parameter name within the FSW_PSW.MAN file to code directly through NCS Expert? Or am I completely wrong here?

Hopefully once I have figure this out, I can document the steps clearly in this thread so that others looking to code triple blink (with more than 3 blinks) on their 4.0 or 4.5 SW LCM can do so on their own. Thanks guys for all the help!

[Overboost]

Thank you very much, gentlemen!!

I took BP's route but instead of using PowerShell, I used good old command prompt with the following command:



So that resolved the .NET Framework not installing on Windows 8 and now NCSDummy launches without any issues.

Since I have never used NCSDummy before, I need to familiarize myself with how it works and how to go about using it. Found a decent link here:

https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...-of-NCS-Expert

My understanding is that NCSDummy makes edits to the respective daten files (LCZ.C37 in this case) and from there I can use that parameter name within the FSW_PSW.MAN file to code directly through NCS Expert? Or am I completely wrong here?

Hopefully once I have figure this out, I can document the steps clearly in this thread so that others looking to code triple blink (with more than 3 blinks) on their 4.0 or 4.5 SW LCM can do so on their own. Thanks guys for all the help!

Connect your cable and launch NCS Expert.
Load profile expert
Press F1
Press F3 you should see your cars information
Press Back
Process ECU you shold see a list of modules in your car
Choose ALSV
Select change job
Select coderin lesen or read your ALSV module.
Select execute job. (MAKE SURE IT SAYS CODERIN LESEN)
This will place all the LSM info in a FSW_PSW.trc file within your NCS EXPER/Work directory.
Close your NCS Expert

Launch NCS Dummy
Select your E46 on top line
Select LSZ.37 on the middle line
Select Browse on the 3rd line and choose the directory above for the stored LSZ.C37 file you created with NCS Expert and select the FSW_PSW.trc file
This should be all your settings in your LSM.
Scroll down to CYCL_TI_BLK and you should see 2 choices einmal, driemal
Select driemal
Then at the bottom select export FSW_PSW then choose export FSW_PSW.MAN
The changes are now ready to be sent to you LSM.

Reopen your NCS EXPERT
Load profile expert
Press F1
Press F3 you should see your cars information
Press Back
Process ECU you should see a list of modules in your car
Choose ALSV
Make sure it says SG coderin
Select execute job.

You now have one touch 3 blinks

Message me if you want to go through it over the phone in realtime or we can do it together with TeamViewer

If you want more than 3 blinks, you have to create a new parameter in CYCL_TI_BLK

TerraPhantm gets all the credit here for these instructions:

Basically, open up the LSZ.C36 (if 4.0) or LSZ.C37 (4.5) file with NCS Dummy without loading any FSW_PSW files, go down to cycle_ti_blk, right click it, and click "add parameter". Name it whatever you want, and under data put the number of blinks you want (maximum is 7). Then click on module -> update module.

You should be able to use that new parameter when coding the LSZ now.

[az3579]

You know, I already wrote up a document on how to add the parameters within NCS Dummy, with screenshots... and can't find it anywhere.

[derbo]

My m track mode diy has the NCS dummy portion that can relate to the custom parameters


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[anandoc]

Thanks BP, Derek and Overboost once again.

I understand the basics of how NCS Expert works: Read the module -> copy the TRC file into a MAN file -> Look up the keyword and make changes and save -> write back to the module.

However, with the NCS Dummy steps that you (or Terra) provided:

Basically, open up the LSZ.C36 (if 4.0) or LSZ.C37 (4.5) file with NCS Dummy without loading any FSW_PSW files, go down to cycle_ti_blk, right click it, and click "add parameter". Name it whatever you want, and under data put the number of blinks you want (maximum is 7). Then click on module -> update module.

You should be able to use that new parameter when coding the LSZ now.

What I am unable to grasp is whether the NCS Dummy tool just updates the DATEN file on my computer or is it directly writing to the module? So basically if I follow the steps above and load up the LSZ.C37 file in NCS Dummy and add the parameter with the number of blinks (5), and hit "update module" - does that actually code the module? Or do I now have to load up NCS Expert and write to the module?

Does that make sense?

[az3579]

So, by modifying the parameter in NCS Dummy, you are making changes to the DATEN files. Once you save the changes, you then go into NCS and code it, which is using the DATEN files that you modified.

BTW, it's always advised to make backups of your DATEN files before modifying them.

[anandoc]

So, by modifying the parameter in NCS Dummy, you are making changes to the DATEN files. Once you save the changes, you then go into NCS and code it, which is using the DATEN files that you modified.

BTW, it's always advised to make backups of your DATEN files before modifying them.

Gotcha! This is kinda what I was hoping it would be.

So if I create a new parameter with NCS Dummy called "funfmal" and set the data to "5" and update the DATEN file, when I go to NCS Expert, do I now set CYCL_TI_BLK to 'funfmal' (as opposed to einmal and dreimal) in order to achieve the 5 blinks?

And yes, I intend to backup the DATEN files, although it seems NCS Dummy backs it up for you. There is no such thing as too many backups