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    ZHP Motor blew

    Hi, I'm new to this site. I recently blew my motor at the last HPDE in December after passing a Ferrari that was too slow through the ďSĒ s at COTA. Iím now considering having a new ZHP motor installed by the dealer at a cost of $12 K versus looking for a used ZHP motor through an independent BMW repair shop. Thatís just because I enjoy the car so much. Can I get some advice on this issue? Thanks! Sam.

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    First, welcome!

    Second, I am have little knowledge of what it takes to replace an engine in our cars, but a few members have done it and can provide advice.

    Personally, Iíd buy a used ZHP motor for that price tag, $12k seems steep. Is that for a new factory motor? Also, it might be a great opportunity to put in a used S54 from an E46 M3 if it can fit your budget.


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    I agree - $12k is way too steep considering there are better motors that can be had for that kind of money.
    Used motors are relatively cheap, usually somewhere below $1500. You could perhaps buy one of those and rebuild it if you really want something minty fresh.
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    Thanks for the advice. Also, that's $12k WITH my BMW CCA discount - way too much. The only caveat is that a new ZHP motor comes with a 2-year warranty, unlike a used motor. I also looked into putting an S54 motor into it instead. My BMW dealer's shop said that would require a lot more work, part upgrades in addition to the motor, and some structural improvements to the body in order to accommodate this. Does anyone have experience with this kind of a swap? Thanks guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamZHP04 View Post
    Thanks for the advice. Also, that's $12k WITH my BMW CCA discount - way too much. The only caveat is that a new ZHP motor comes with a 2-year warranty, unlike a used motor. I also looked into putting an S54 motor into it instead. My BMW dealer's shop said that would require a lot more work, part upgrades in addition to the motor, and some structural improvements to the body in order to accommodate this. Does anyone have experience with this kind of a swap? Thanks guys.
    Nextel's Imola Sedan ZHP thread (another imola sedan?)
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    Absolutely insane to spend $12k on a motor. For that kind of coin, you could buy an entire clean example with < 100k on it.

    Either get it rebuilt, or source a replacement motor from a boneyard. IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamZHP04 View Post
    Thanks for the advice. Also, that's $12k WITH my BMW CCA discount - way too much. The only caveat is that a new ZHP motor comes with a 2-year warranty, unlike a used motor. I also looked into putting an S54 motor into it instead. My BMW dealer's shop said that would require a lot more work, part upgrades in addition to the motor, and some structural improvements to the body in order to accommodate this. Does anyone have experience with this kind of a swap? Thanks guys.
    They are right, you would need the M3 rear end and driveshaft if I'm not mistaken. It's definitely more work, but for $12k to have the exact same motor put in, I would want to swap in an S54.
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    LS swap!

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    Used M54 engine would be my recommend COA.


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    agree with shawn... you could get a used engine, installed, for $3K. you could do that 4 times to equal a new motor at the dealer.
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