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  1. #11
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    No, the power loss is associated with the seals. The rings that cause the rattle cause no issues other than noise.

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  2. #12
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    Good to know. I was worried about driving it with the rattle.

    It sounds like shit above 2500RPM so I’m just going to do the repair.
    -Chris


  3. #13
    My car sounded broken between 2-3k rpm with the VANOS rattle. I did the rattle kit from beisan to fix it and it reduced the rattle significantly but did not completely eliminate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWM3186 View Post
    My car sounded broken between 2-3k rpm with the VANOS rattle. I did the rattle kit from beisan to fix it and it reduced the rattle significantly but did not completely eliminate it.
    That's not good news... I wonder if you let it go too long and it got to a point where the rattle caused wear on the pistons so it's not 100% repairable? How soon after you heard the rattle did you repair it?

    I honestly don't know how long mine has been rattling because I just heard it for the first time yesterday when I drove with the windows down (first really warm day.) I can't hear the rattle with the windows up and radio on, so it's entirely possible it has been rattling for a while.

    Anyhow - I ordered the Beisan rattle and seals kits today. I'm going to fix it and hope it goes away completely.
    -Chris


  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by cornercarver View Post
    That's not good news... I wonder if you let it go too long and it got to a point where the rattle caused wear on the pistons so it's not 100% repairable? How soon after you heard the rattle did you repair it?

    I honestly don't know how long mine has been rattling because I just heard it for the first time yesterday when I drove with the windows down (first really warm day.) I can't hear the rattle with the windows up and radio on, so it's entirely possible it has been rattling for a while.

    Anyhow - I ordered the Beisan rattle and seals kits today. I'm going to fix it and hope it goes away completely.
    I bought the car with the rattle, afaik the rattle is not caused by the Pistons, but rather the bearings/rings inside of them that wear because of the more aggressive Zhp camshafts.

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  6. #16
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    Ordered the Beisan rattle kit and seals kit, along with a VCG kit, oil fill cap gasket, oil line crush washers and spark plugs. Hopefully will have time to tackle it next weekend...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWM3186 View Post
    I bought the car with the rattle, afaik the rattle is not caused by the Pistons, but rather the bearings/rings inside of them that wear because of the more aggressive Zhp camshafts.

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    It definitely not a ZHP specific issue. It affects all sorts of BMW vehicles with 6-cylinder VANOS. I'm not sure if the issue is present in 8-cylinder models.
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    2003 330iT / 6MT
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  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by az3579 View Post
    It definitely not a ZHP specific issue. It affects all sorts of BMW vehicles with 6-cylinder VANOS. I'm not sure if the issue is present in 8-cylinder models.
    I should revise that as more Zhp prevalent. Beisans website has a very good explanation that's very complex on their website as to the reason why the rattle occurs. "Performance cams like the cams on the US E46 ZHP or aftermarket performance (Schrick) cams create stronger camshaft lash forces and thus are more susceptible to causing a rattle."

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  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by cornercarver View Post
    Ordered the Beisan rattle kit and seals kit, along with a VCG kit, oil fill cap gasket, oil line crush washers and spark plugs. Hopefully will have time to tackle it next weekend...
    Looks good, thought the job was pretty easy. Just make sure you are careful when pressing the new seals into the VANOS and be careful around the pistons the metal on them is pretty soft and easy to scratch/mar when cutting the old seals off

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  10. #20
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    Mine still rattles at around 2k as well. I did the anti rattle kit and everything. there was MUCH less axial play in the pistons with the new anti rattle rings, but i still hear a brief buzzing like in the video when going through the 2k rpm zone. waste of $60 i guess
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