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Thread: Durability of real carbon fiber trim vs. carbon fiber wrap

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    Quote Originally Posted by WOLFN8TR View Post
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    $230... just for that piece?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by t.er View Post
    $230... just for that piece?!
    Well, when you factor in the weight savings, it basically transforms a ZHP into the equivalent of an M3. Performance improvements stack, I bought 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sillieidiot View Post
    I am. They do use real CF, but I don't like how they lay some of the CF. It's like they try to use a little material as possible so you see like gaps here and there. It looks like they do a wet-lay process to me. That's just from some of the pieces I've seen though. But I think most people would gloss over that detail and be content with it.
    Rogue responded to my inquiry but did not provide specifics. Since their core services involve fiberglass, I'm certain they are simply transferring those techniques to the carbon fiber application. Rogue is about 50 minutes from me.

    Karbonius prices are tolerable but with the 20% VAT it becomes pricey. I like the Karbonius process.


    I've attached the NVD Autsport (Thailand) price list for E46 vehicles. bmw-e46-carbon-fiber-price-2020.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWCurves View Post
    Well, when you factor in the weight savings, it basically transforms a ZHP into the equivalent of an M3. Performance improvements stack, I bought 6.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Satcho View Post
    Rogue responded to my inquiry but did not provide specifics. Since their core services involve fiberglass, I'm certain they are simply transferring those techniques to the carbon fiber application. Rogue is about 50 minutes from me.

    Karbonius prices are tolerable but with the 20% VAT it becomes pricey. I like the Karbonius process.


    I've attached the NVD Autsport (Thailand) price list for E46 vehicles. bmw-e46-carbon-fiber-price-2020.pdf
    Pic broken for me.

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    Dynavin D99+, Hardwire V1 (w/V1 Connection), BSW Stage 1 Speakers, Kicker Amp/Subwoofer
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnrando View Post
    Pic broken for me.
    It's a link to the pdf price list with photos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John in VA View Post
    It's a link to the pdf price list with photos.
    Your correct. Not certain why it did not attach since I downloaded the price list. Copy 'n paste yields the prices without pictures (see below).


    Has anyone used NVD Autosport in Thailand?


    I stand corrected on my previous statement for Karbonius VAT rate, since they are located in Spain the VAT is 21%...according to https://www.avalara.com/vatlive/en/v...vat-rates.html

    It appears that automotive parts were not included in COVID-19 rate reductions. Obviously the EU does not wish to stimulate trade with rates this high.



    No. Pic Description - OEM PART LAMINATED WITH CARBON Price USD
    Replacement type not the cover type
    E46/2 front grille $180
    E46 front grille $180
    Carbon Auto gear knob (E36/46/39/60/90/92) $120
    2.1 Carbon SMG gear knob $290
    E36, E39, E46 Carbon hand brake (Hamann) $85
    E46 Carbon boot handle $285
    E46 M3 Carbon multi function $205
    E46 M3 Carbon lower steering wheel trim $285
    E46 Carbon ECU lid $180
    Carbon Door sills (inner)
    BMW E46 CARBON FIBER PARTS
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    E46 coupe $320
    E46 Coupe Carbon Pollen cover/ cover micro filter $180
    E46 Carbon inner mirror cover/ pair $95
    E46/2 Carbon door handles (1 pair) $285
    E46/4 Carbon door handles (2 pairs) $570
    E46/2 M3 Carbon side mouldings ( 6 pieces) $760
    E46 M3 Carbon Centre Intake + connector $399
    E46 M3 Carbon Centre Intake only $310
    E46 323CI Carbon Centre Intake $290
    E46 Carbon dash trims $240
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    No. Pic Description - OEM PART LAMINATED WITH CARBON Price USD
    BMW E46 CARBON FIBER PARTS
    E46 Carbon centre console $155
    E46 Carbon smg dome $325
    E46 Carbon armrests (front- rear: 4 pcs) $830
    E46 Sedan interior door trims ( 4 pcs) $360
    E46 coupe (pre-facelift) Headlamp trims+washer jet covers $370
    E46 coupe (facelift) Headlamp trims+washer jet covers $380
    E46 coupe (facelift) Headlamp trims $290
    E46 M3 Carbon side grille $185
    E46 Carbon Lower kick panel (pair) $360
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    E46 CSL Rear panel (2 pieces) $1,150
    E46 convertible lateral trim top( 2 pcs) $1,680
    E46 Carbon xenon ballast cover $135
    E46 Carbon jet washer tank cap $80
    E46 Carbon shift paddles $99
    E46 Carbon seat trim/ pair $420
    E46 convertible - seat trim extensions/pair $260
    E46 Carbon seat rail cover/ pair $185
    E46 Carbon washer bottle $265
    E46 M3 Carbon fibre radiator extension tank $385
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    No. Pic Description - OEM PART LAMINATED WITH CARBON Price USD
    BMW E46 CARBON FIBER PARTS
    35 E46 M3 carbon fibre steering wheel (MFSW) $950
    E46 M3 carbon fibre steering wheel (MFSW) SPORT VERSION $950
    E46 M3 carbon fibre steering wheel with shift paddles(MFSW)
    SPORT VERSION $1,250
    36 E46 carbon sunglass holder $190
    37 E46 carbon instrument panel - switch centre $495
    38 E46 carbon handbrake console $575
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    E46 carbon coin storage ( in handbrake console ) $140
    40 E46 carbon storage compartment (in handbrake console) $150
    40.1 E46 carbon cup holder (in handbrake console) $140
    41 E46 carbon roller top storage tray ( in center console) $195
    41-1 E46 carbon roller top storage tray holder ( in center console)
    ( for the version with center armrest ) $135
    No. Pic Description - OEM PART LAMINATED WITH CARBON Price USD
    BMW E46 CARBON FIBER PARTS
    42 E46 carbon battery cover $295
    43 E46 carbon trunk tray ( in trunk) $280
    E46 storage partition ( in trunk ) $95
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    Oil filter cover $120
    46 Front Seat pull covers + handles ( pair) $340
    47 Automatic Air Control Unit Panel $250
    48 Interior Door handles ( coupe / convertible ) $280
    49 Steeing wheel column ( upper - lower) $550
    50 Dash Storage Box $280
    51 Headrest Seatbelt Base ( pair ) for Convertible ONLY $550
    52 Side Air Con Vent ( pair ) $240
    53 Center Air Con Vent $250
    No. Pic Description - OEM PART LAMINATED WITH CARBON Price USD
    BMW E46 CARBON FIBER PARTS
    54 Coolant cap $110

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satcho View Post
    Rogue responded to my inquiry but did not provide specifics. Since their core services involve fiberglass, I'm certain they are simply transferring those techniques to the carbon fiber application. Rogue is about 50 minutes from me.

    Karbonius prices are tolerable but with the 20% VAT it becomes pricey. I like the Karbonius process.


    I've attached the NVD Autsport (Thailand) price list for E46 vehicles. bmw-e46-carbon-fiber-price-2020.pdf
    If Rogue is local, I would deal with them directly. The support will be a lot better imo. You can also check the product directly before you pick it up, it's way better than doing it the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sillieidiot View Post
    If Rogue is local, I would deal with them directly. The support will be a lot better imo. You can also check the product directly before you pick it up, it's way better than doing it the other way around.
    Good point!


    At his juncture I am leaning toward the autoclave process ;therefore, Karbonius or possibly NVD Autosport. Just waiting for detailed process description from NVD Autosport. I've emailed Karbonius to confirm shipping charges and duties to US so that proper comparatives can be performed.

    NVD has free shipping (just built into the price). I read NVD Autosport testimonials, one individual stated that NVD declared the shipment as a "gift"; therefore, there were no duties levied.

    So far I have not identified another E46 carbon fiber offering that is autoclaved. Should anyone know of another entity, please let me know.

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