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Thread: Durability of real carbon fiber trim vs. carbon fiber wrap

  1. #21
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    You know, I was thinking you were in the EU before lol Because you were concerned with VAT. We don't pay the VAT in the US. They shouldn't charge you the VAT. I'm not sure how their trim pieces look cosmetically. But the door cards that I have seen from them had a lot of weave imperfections especially around the bends. Nothing too crazy, but it's noticeable if you look. But their CSL airbox looked perfect. I'm talking about Karbonius.

    I don't think I know of any other one. But since the trims are cosmetic for the most part, I'm more concerned about the epoxy/clear coat used and the way the weave looks vs. the minimal weight savings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sillieidiot View Post
    You know, I was thinking you were in the EU before lol Because you were concerned with VAT. We don't pay the VAT in the US. They shouldn't charge you the VAT. I'm not sure how their trim pieces look cosmetically. But the door cards that I have seen from them had a lot of weave imperfections especially around the bends. Nothing too crazy, but it's noticeable if you look. But their CSL airbox looked perfect. I'm talking about Karbonius.

    I don't think I know of any other one. But since the trims are cosmetic for the most part, I'm more concerned about the epoxy/clear coat used and the way the weave looks vs. the minimal weight savings.

    I did not realize US purchasers did not pay VAT. That change the economics, although duties do apply.

    Did you directly see the Karnonius door cards as opposed to images? I am looking at the 8-piece trim set for my ZHP.



    I received a reply from NVD Autosport describing their manufacturing process. In essence, the same process as Rogue.


    Dear: Sir

    We can do the under value invoice so that you do not need to pay the import tax in USA.

    Our production process starts from:

    1. prepare the core parts ==> clean + prepare the surface+ put in the heating room for 1-2 days to make sure that the surface is completely dry

    2. Laminate the real carbon fiber sheet + put in room temp for few days then put in the heating room again

    3. Coating with our in house coating formula 3 - 4 layers ( each layers will have a time break) ==> put in the room temp for few days then put in the heating room again

    4. do the finishing touch

    Please let us know.

    Thank you
    Prapan
    www.NvdAutoSport.com

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    I have a 8pc wood trim sedan set that I’ve been wanting to get done in carbon fiber
    2005 BMW 330i ZHP - BMWP brakes/intake/strut bar/shifter, Coby wraps interior, BBS CHs, Eagle Eye LED tails, GC coilovers, 2x2 CF MTECH2 diffuser, Sprint Booster/sport button mod, 4.5 LCM, Xtrons 9inch HU, BSW stg1, dynamat, M3 sedan dead pedal
    2017 Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro Cement Gray - Innovativ HIDs, OE LED fogs, CanvasBack, URD, black tails, K&N, AJT



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    Durability of real carbon fiber trim vs. carbon fiber wrap

    Quote Originally Posted by BADCLOWN View Post
    I have a 8pc wood trim sedan set that I’ve been wanting to get done in carbon fiber
    FYI there is a member on the M3Forum that refinish’s trim if you want something other than CF. He does really good work.

    https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/top...ink_source=app
    BAVSOUND Stage 1 - UltraGauge - Valentine One - Orion V4's - ARC-8's
    TTFS Engine/SMG Tune/CSL 255 - SGT Headers/Sect 1/SCZA - Evolve Eventuri
    VIS XTS CF Hood - CF Lip/Console/Diffuser - OE CSL Trunk - BWS 500S 9k/11k

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    Carbon Fiber Wrapped Sedan Trim Sets. Actually looks good.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-E46-SED...gAAOSwb1NcrkxS

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-E46-Sed...MAAOSwXj1ea9Z1

    NVD Carbon Fiber Full Sedan Trim Set- $880

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-E46-Sed...gAAOSwLnBX61Gt

    Nice ZHP Black Cube Sedan Trim Set- $300
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-E46-330...m/264762061388
    Last edited by WOLFN8TR; 08-10-2020 at 03:26 PM.
    BAVSOUND Stage 1 - UltraGauge - Valentine One - Orion V4's - ARC-8's
    TTFS Engine/SMG Tune/CSL 255 - SGT Headers/Sect 1/SCZA - Evolve Eventuri
    VIS XTS CF Hood - CF Lip/Console/Diffuser - OE CSL Trunk - BWS 500S 9k/11k

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    Quote Originally Posted by WOLFN8TR View Post
    Carbon Fiber Wrapped Sedan Trim Sets. Actually looks good.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-E46-SED...gAAOSwb1NcrkxS

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-E46-Sed...MAAOSwXj1ea9Z1

    NVD Carbon Fiber Full Sedan Trim Set- $880

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-E46-Sed...gAAOSwLnBX61Gt

    Nice ZHP Black Cube Sedan Trim Set- $300
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-E46-330...m/264762061388


    I have reviewed the ebay products; additionally I'll look at the M3Forum member's service.


    Here is a reply from Karbonius:

    Hi Mattthew,
    sorry for delay in back to you, the person who usually reply the emails is on leave and I have not too much free time to reply.
    I think most of our customers are paying around a 5% to 8% of the amount on the invoice for taxes in USA.
    About shipping costs I´m not sure, but you can check on the shop, you can try to make a buy putting your postal code in the required fiels and the system will show you the shipping costs.
    And about the exchange rate, the system also show prices in Euros, regardless of how the dollar is..
    Please let me know if you have any other doubt.
    Regards

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    https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-E46-Sed...gAAOSwLnBX61Gt

    They offer this in 1x1 weave.... very tempting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satcho View Post
    I did not realize US purchasers did not pay VAT. That change the economics, although duties do apply.

    Did you directly see the Karnonius door cards as opposed to images? I am looking at the 8-piece trim set for my ZHP.



    I received a reply from NVD Autosport describing their manufacturing process. In essence, the same process as Rogue.


    Dear: Sir

    We can do the under value invoice so that you do not need to pay the import tax in USA.

    Our production process starts from:

    1. prepare the core parts ==> clean + prepare the surface+ put in the heating room for 1-2 days to make sure that the surface is completely dry

    2. Laminate the real carbon fiber sheet + put in room temp for few days then put in the heating room again

    3. Coating with our in house coating formula 3 - 4 layers ( each layers will have a time break) ==> put in the room temp for few days then put in the heating room again

    4. do the finishing touch

    Please let us know.

    Thank you
    Prapan
    www.NvdAutoSport.com
    Yes, I have seen them directly/physically. An entire batch of like 10 door cards. Same with the roof, and airbox. I come into contact with a lot of CF parts lol They look WAYYYY better than the Status Gruppe door cards, that's for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WOLFN8TR View Post
    FYI there is a member on the M3Forum that refinish’s trim if you want something other than CF. He does really good work.

    https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/top...ink_source=app
    Thanks for the lead. I contacted that member to confirm and he PM'd me stating that he did not do carbon fiber. I concur his work looks excellent.

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    Welcome. I’ve seen a lot of his refinished trim pieces and they all turned out amazing.
    BAVSOUND Stage 1 - UltraGauge - Valentine One - Orion V4's - ARC-8's
    TTFS Engine/SMG Tune/CSL 255 - SGT Headers/Sect 1/SCZA - Evolve Eventuri
    VIS XTS CF Hood - CF Lip/Console/Diffuser - OE CSL Trunk - BWS 500S 9k/11k

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