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Thread: OEM M3 mirrors with power autofold for convertible... Help me please

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    OEM M3 mirrors with power autofold for convertible... Help me please

    Hi all...

    For my winter project, I want to retrofit M3 mirrors that will autofold... I have an 06 convertible so I think I have ribbon cables that need to be converted or something...

    I swapped mirrors out on my sedan ages ago. I think I had to buy European mirrors, a new button for inside the car, and then have someone program the car to have some option in the VO.... Can't find my old notes, and that was for a sedan anyhow...

    Would love some help, thanks!

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    Talk to Charlie (cakM3) he did multiple conversion. He recently did auto-fold mirrors on his M3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RUS_ZHP View Post
    Talk to Charlie (cakM3) he did multiple conversion. He recently did auto-fold mirrors on his M3.

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    Charlie has done conversions for sedan. I think the specific part I need help with is the ribbon cable conversion (my ZHP has ribbon connectors, M3 mirrors do not)....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sna77 View Post
    Charlie has done conversions for sedan. I think the specific part I need help with is the ribbon cable conversion (my ZHP has ribbon connectors, M3 mirrors do not)....
    I am pretty sure he did that on his Imola zhp as well and he is definitely planning to install M3 mirrors on his current mystic zhp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RUS_ZHP View Post
    I am pretty sure he did that on his Imola zhp as well and he is definitely planning to install M3 mirrors on his current mystic zhp.

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    Awesome, thanks. Paging @cakm3!

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    From my research... Using OEM parts, this is what I THINK need so far:

    Mirror housing:

    For vehicles with Fold-in outside mirror S313A=Yes
    https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=51_4233

    51167893567 Left primed exterior heatable mirror
    51167893568 Right primed exterior heatable mirror

    Mirror motors - DO THESE COME WITH MIRRORS OR NEED TO BUY SEPERATELY??
    51167895275 Actuator left
    51167895276 Actuator right

    Mirror glass (OEM Euro)
    https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=51_4319

    51167145267 Mirror glass, heated, wide-angle, left
    51167145268 Mirror glass, heated, wide-angle, right


    Power switch:
    https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...62#61316901383

    61316901383 For vehicles with Fold-in outside mirror and Seat adjuster, electric, with memory: Switch f mirror adjust./fldng bck funct.

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    Found some useful links:

    Charlie's install:
    http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showt...s-doityourself

    My old sedan install:
    http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showt...on-programming

    Terra converting M3 mirrors to power:
    http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showt...Folding-No-56K

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    Steve,

    I can help you do your M3 side mirror retrofit to your vert. I have done this to a vert in the Boston area (a white one) several years back... it is not as hard to do as the sedan retrofit.

    The side mirror baseplates do not need to be modded. They are a direct bolt on for verts, that is the good news. What you will need to do is transfer your mirror motors from your OE side mirrors into the M3 mirror housings. Fortunately Sergy has the side mirror base plates you will need to help you make the conversion so that you can mount your OE mirror motors on to them.

    I helped Sergy do his OEM M3 side mirror retrofit to his touring using his 3D-printed mirror motor base plates into his M3 mirror housings and they came out perfect. This is all you will need for your conversion.

    We can talk more in detail when you call me later today.

    As Sergy has said earlier, I will be doing this retrofit to my sedan once I have my side mirror baseplates modded and the mirror housings/baseplates painted.


    Oh.... one thing more... the cables that are on the Vert aren't the same ribbon style cables you see in the ZHP sedans... they look to be much more durable than the sedan ones are...



    You will need the following to do your M3 auto fold side mirror retrofit:

    - Power switch: https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...62#61316901383

    - Side Mirrors: https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=51_4319
    51167145267 Mirror glass, heated, wide-angle, left
    51167145268 Mirror glass, heated, wide-angle, right

    - Mirror motors - these do not come with mirrors but you have to verify when ordering
    51167895275 Actuator left
    51167895276 Actuator right

    - Then you have to have the VO changed so that you have auto fold. I have a friend who can easily do this for you Steve

    As for wiring up the auto fold motors (blue and white wires) I am not sure where to hook them up to verts and sedans so this is something I intend to pick your brains on when I am ready to do my auto fold side mirrors...the rest I can help you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cakM3 View Post
    Steve,

    I What you will need to do is transfer your mirror motors from your OE side mirrors into the M3 mirror housings.
    I helped Sergy do his OEM M3 side mirror retrofit to his touring using his 3D-printed mirror motor base plates into his M3 mirror housings and they came out perfect. This is all you will need for your conversion.
    OK--So I actually don't have anything yet--no mirror motors in my current car etc. I need to source everything now.

    1. M3 mirrors (and paint them)
    2. Mirror glass
    3. Mirror motors (acutaters)
    4. power switch
    5. program car

    Will call you tonight!

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    I priced OEM Auto Fold M3 side mirrors and at $1600 just to have OEM I don't feel it is worth the coin so I was able to source OEM M3 manual side mirrors for $350 from a friend of mine to convert instead.


    OEM M3 auto fold side mirrors:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-E46-Gen...UAAOxyGxxSKOnS


    For my M3 what I did instead was get an M3 rep (aka M5 style side mirror) auto fold mirror for around $200 with $45 shipping and pulled the auto fold motor from the mirror arm and transplanted them into my M3 manual mirror arm to get the auto fold functionality. From there it was just plug and play and I now have auto folding side mirrors on my M3.

    Here is the link:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-E46-Cou...QAAOSw3xJVXcoL


    I don't know about you Steve but to have auto fold functionality where you can program the car so you can use your key fob to auto fold your side mirrors just like factory and spend $200 + shipping to do this... I would go this route rather than spend $1600 just to have this functionality... just my opinion.

    Call me tonight and we will discuss this in more detail.

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