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  1. #1
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    Preventive maintenance prior to listing on BaT?

    Hi all,
    I'm planning to sell my dad's ZHP for him in the coming months since he's no longer able to drive (in his mid-70s with poor vision). It's an uber clean 2004 6MT silver coupe with ~18k miles. From what I've read on the forums, I'm thinking BaT would be the best place to list it. However, I've seen some comments that BaT buyers are often looking for a turnkey vehicle, and not looking to do any maintenance. I'm planning to get a PPI done at my local mechanic, and to my knowledge there's nothing requiring repair currently, but wondering if there's value in performing any preventive maintenance prior to listing? I'm planning to do an engine oil and brake fluid change, and also complete an airbag recall. Would it be worthwhile to perform anything else? I know many folks preventatively do the cooling system, suspension, VANOS and subframe reinforcement. I believe each are relatively expensive though, and not sure I'd recoup the cost and if better to let the future owner decide? Any feedback or other suggestions are appreciated.

    Cheers,
    Colin

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    As long as you have a clean/documented PPI and that states the car doesn't need anything, I wouldn't spend the money as I don't personally see a need to. I would focus on aesthetics and give the car a proper cut/polish/cleaning before taking photos for the listing.
    2005 BMW 330i ZHP - BMWP brakes/intake/strut bar/shifter, Coby wraps interior, BBS CHs, Eagle Eye LED tails, LED fog lights, GC coilovers, Sprint Booster/sport button mod, 4.5 LCM w/ programming, Xtrons 9inch HU, BSW stg1, dynamat, M3 sedan dead pedal, oCarbon CF interior trim, CF seat backs, 2x2 CF MTECH2 diffuser, CF cabin filter cover



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    I suggest to use a paint thickness gauge to show paint condition in pics. I found mine in Amazon for 65 dlls, the model is CM-205FN. But yes, people usually ask about Vanos, DISA, CCV, and Inspection 2.
    2005 IR / black / 6MT
    157,000 miles

  4. #4
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    When I sold my ZHP in June on BaT, it had 87K miles. It really was mint, had no leaks of any kind, and it had it's original cooling system. I believe that a good service history, a professional detailing and then professional photography make a huge difference. Brings premium buyers......

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...onvertible-13/

    Your car properly prepared and presented, and with that 6MT and loooooow mileage, should bring a huge premium. I bet no one even asks about the typical service items. If they do, they are trying to nit pick you to hold the price down..... be ready for that.

    Your car should do extremely well, and the bidders will likely be fighting each other to own it

    GLWS!
    Last edited by pedro2u; 01-05-2022 at 12:22 PM.
    Pete


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    Agree with the other comments, but with regards to the subframe you mentioned - in stock form these cars do not really crack there. Also, with the car having 18K miles - I doubt that is an issue.

    Regarding the cooling system, go to a good BMW indy shop (that works on these cars) to do the PPI and they should be able to tell if anything is cracking/dry due to age; may need to replace the upper and lower hoses and possibly tires if they are old.

    At 18K miles your suspension should be perfectly fine unless your father went off-roading daily with it.

    Check the sunroof drains, make sure they are fine and not clogged - the indy shop should be able to shoot pressurized air through them either way to loosen any debris that would be stuck.

    Also, the vanos rarely go wrong on these cars, that is more of an issue with the s54 motors.

    I think BAT is the way to go with the type of car you are describing.
    2003 330i ZHP; Imola/Alcantara 6 speed, 2002 330xi ZSP; Blue gray/Black 5 speed

  6. #6
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    Yep, agreeing with the others. There will be some potential buyers that argue age over mileage re: needing preventive maintenance - let them pay for it once the car is theirs!
    2006 330ci ZHP - Silbergrau Metallic / Stoff Laser/Anthrazit / Alu Black Cube trim / Adaptive Xenon headlights / HK hi-fi system / heated front seats

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    Agree w others as well

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    I'm on the fence as I just did all this work on my car with 50K miles. If you want top dollar people are not going to want to spend another 5 to 6K on items that wear out from age, tires, hoses, struts, etc. On the other hand it being all original is also a huge benefit as people know nothing has been touched

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    I’m the outlier here. I say you should remove any doubt from the bidders’ minds. I think you should spend the money to replace all plastic and rubber cooling system parts, and maybe the radiator for good measure. Splurge on Original BMW parts. Install a Stewart water pump while you’re at it. Do the GAS DISA fix—it’s cheap and easy.

  10. #10
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    Thanks everyone, I really appreciate all the detailed feedback. I'm definitely planning to have it professionally detailed and will check out the paint gauge. It sounds like there a few maintenance items to possibly consider and I'll discuss during PPI.

    It might be better to post this on the Southeast forum, but any recommendations for an indy BMW mechanic in the greater Raleigh area? I owned an E46 ten years ago and used Performance Chassis in Cary, NC. The owner/mechanic had a couple personal ZHPs then and knew BMWs well, but I'm not sure if he's still wrenching these days.

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