Materials to Maintain Your ZHP IIIII Hand Protection IIIII Tools to Maintain Your ZHP
Results 1 to 7 of 7
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Hanover, PA
    Posts
    2,024

    DIY - Fuel Pump Failure? Possible Roadside/Parking Lot Fix. doityourself

    Okay. First things first. The disclaimer. If you are uncomfortable diagnosing your car's ailment based on the symptoms you have received, you should probably take/TOW your car to a local shop to have it serviced/fixed to minimize the possibility you could cause further damage to your car.

    The first time I had a fuel pump fail on me, I was driving to work and made a turn at a stop light and proceeded up a rather steep hill. As I was going up the hill, the e30 sputtered and the engine shutoff - on the right hand side of a busy road. Based on the symptoms (comparing them with a previous car I owned) and mileage, I was worried my timing belt broke and if I restarted the car, I was going to do engine damage. I'm a lot more confident now - and was more confident making a determination this time based on my environment (late for work vs. non-stressful), location (busy road vs. parking lot), symptoms, and ability to walk around the car and troubleshoot.

    Symptoms - just an abbreviated list, based on my limited experience, feel free to chime in so I can update

    Immediate loss of power while driving - irregardless of gas pedal position
    When turning over the car, the car briefly idles low and rough before engine shuts off
    The engine turns off after a few seconds while running

    Process

    Have to be able to get to or access the fuel pump.

    In a 1990 325 iS (e30), the fuel pump is located inside the fuel tank; the top of the fuel pump is accessible underneath the rear seat.

    Straddle the drive shaft hump and grab the bottom section of the rear seat where the seat meets the carpet/floor pan.

    Pull upwards. You may need to apply a little bit of force to "pop" the rear seat off of the retention points.



    The bottom of the rear seat might get in the way. Move the rear seat section; from the car, if possible. Resting it in your trunk is a possible option.

    Pull back the underlayment to expose the access panels.








    Then remove the access panel. I was actually able to use the screwdriver in my toolkit. Yay! BMW Factory Toolkit FTW!

    I removed both panels in the e30 - I didn't have my Bentley Publishers manual and forgot where the fuel pump resided.




    The fuel pump in this e30 is on the passenger side - I was really able to tell by the nozzle and fuel hose that left the top of the fuel pump.

    FYI/FWIW - behind the drivers seat in this e30 is the fuel tank level sender.



    The thought process here is to carefully and firmly, rap the top of the fuel pump in an attempt to get it to start running/pumping fuel in order to get you to your destination, a repair shop, or back home to get your car.

    Be careful not to break any of the electrical connectors or fuel lines on top of the fuel pump!

    I selected a quart-sized bottle of oil/ATF, but you could use a soft rubber mallet or your hand (be sure to wrap a cloth around your hand to protect it from sharp edges).

    I know I took a good 10 minutes to size up the situation - looking at the orientation of the bottle, the angle of the strike, and estimate the amount of force to use... - just so I wouldn't mess up the connectors, lines, or pump.









    So while sitting in the drivers seat with the passenger seat forward, orient yourself so you can reach back and tap the top of the fuel pump with whatever object you selected while turning the key in the ignition.

    Turn the key in the ignition to start the car (with your left hand), lean into the back seat, and rap the fuel pump with your selected object (using your right hand).

    Turning the key to ON or START should supply power to the fuel pump. A firm tap may "assist" the motor and pump to "unstick" and commence pumping fuel.

    With the key to START, I was able to get the fuel pump to start pumping fuel and my car immediately turned over and ran like a champ.

    This roadside DIY fix/trick has been attempted and proven successful.



    Good luck.

    Hankook Ventus V4's 205/55/16 | 16" BMW OE Style 45's | ECSTuning 15mm Spacers | Thule 45050 Crossroad Rack | Thule 870XT Fairing | LLumar 35%/20% Tint
    Custom Vienna Austria Euro Plate | GoMiniGo "No-Holes" License Plate Bracket | Smoked License Plate Cover | Black License Plate Frame | Khoalty LED License Plate Lights


  2. #2
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    NE MPLS MN
    Posts
    26
    Very interesting, makes sense. Thanks for the idea, now to be sure and remember it if I'm in this situation.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Ocean County, NJ
    Posts
    7,273
    Great write up, Bill.

    Thanks for taking the time to bang this out.
    -Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
    ZHP Pre-Ride Briefing

    2005 ZHP, Alcantara, Silver Cube, Nav, Sharked, BMW Perf Intake, BMW Perf CF Strut Brace, CF Valve/Fuel Rail Covers,
    Shadowline Grills, CF Splitters, Fog Light Inserts, Euro-mirrors, CDV Delete, Beisan vanos, GAS DISA, BP Coded

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Liberty Township, OH
    Posts
    37,935
    Love it. Well done.

    HTC Thunderbolt+TT
    Call Me Dane l 2/2004 330i ZHP l 18x8 ET45 BBS CK's wrapped with Michelin Pilot Sport AS3+ @ 245-40-18 l KW V1 Coilovers in front l KW V1 springs w/ Bilstein B8 dampeners in rear l BMW Performance Rotors l UUC StrutBarbarian l Racing Dynamics Rear Strut Bar l Jim Conforti Shark Injector l Light Birch Interior Trim l Bimmian Celly Mount l M3 Trunk Mat l l e90 Performance E-Brake & Shift Knob l M3 Tri-Stitched Boots l AL Headlight Retrofit with ZKW Lenses l CobyWheel Wrap w/M3 Stitching l LCM sw 4.5 triple blink and rear fogs l Maple Interior Trim

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Hanover, PA
    Posts
    2,024
    Thanks guys for checking it out.


    BlackBerry. Tapatalk.

    Hankook Ventus V4's 205/55/16 | 16" BMW OE Style 45's | ECSTuning 15mm Spacers | Thule 45050 Crossroad Rack | Thule 870XT Fairing | LLumar 35%/20% Tint
    Custom Vienna Austria Euro Plate | GoMiniGo "No-Holes" License Plate Bracket | Smoked License Plate Cover | Black License Plate Frame | Khoalty LED License Plate Lights


  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Chicago
    Posts
    304
    I had this situation in exactly the zhp. I had it towed cause i didn't know what the heck it was. Mechanic told me he actually hit the fuel tank with a mallet and it was enough to start the car up, so it was just stuck. Any DIY to replace the pump itself?

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Duluth, GA
    Posts
    1,119
    Great Info. Thank you.
    -ADAM

Similar Threads

  1. Idle sputter potential fuel pump failure
    By blindside in forum Mechanical | Troubleshooting
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 05-23-2013, 07:12 PM
  2. From BMWMafia - E30 Fuel Pump Fail and roadside mechanic DIY fix - By billschusteriv
    By danewilson77 in forum Mechanical | Troubleshooting
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 04-23-2012, 04:22 AM
  3. Fuel Pump
    By GSEN820 in forum Mechanical | Troubleshooting
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 10-17-2011, 03:16 PM
  4. Replies: 23
    Last Post: 09-27-2011, 12:12 PM
  5. Fuel Pump Fail and roadside mechanic DIY fix
    By billschusteriv in forum Mechanical | Troubleshooting
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 07-01-2011, 05:37 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •