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  1. #21
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    Alright, I'm just trying to put together my notes for the next round of maintenance (targeted for 100k but will probably be about 95k) I want to do. If anyone can answer some of the questions below or relay personal experiences it would be much appreciated!

    Purchased already:

    Cooling: Expansion tank, water pump, tstat, upper/lower hoses, temp sensor, BMW antifreeze,

    Engine: pulleys, tensioner, belts, plugs (NGK)

    Suspension: FCABS only. RTABS are going to need to be done but I think they'll be slated for 120k.

    To be purchased:

    VANOS: Beisan Seals + Rattle, or Dr. Vanos? I just realized literally today that the $150 core is included in the Dr. Vanos $400, not on top of it. That means we're talking $250 to plug and play swap, $120 for Beisan parts + $15 for the jaw liners. All said and done probably a ~$100 premium to not have to mess sandpaper and preloading. What's the consensus here?

    VANOS related: Valve cover gasket, 15 grommets, a few of the crush washers for the VANOS removal, VANOS gasket, considering the solenoid piston assemblies. What other parts do I need to complete the VANOS rebuild(swap)?

    Brakes: Collapsed vacuum line, fluid flush. Do I want Motul 5.1 or ATE Super Blue? Understand it takes about 24floz to flush?

    Tranny: 2 QTS MTL if I've got no tag, MT-90 if I've got a tag. Or do I want to run some royal purple? Dane, I know you drained RP after a few hundred miles. Why?

    Diff: 1 (2?) QT Redline 75W90 - or again...Royal Purple? What about AMSOIL severe gear?

    Power steering: (turkey baster swap) What brand ATF? Meyle, Redline, RP, AMSOIL, Mobil?

    Any other general systems/parts I need to be thinking of?

    thanks everyone.
    Paul

  2. #22
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    Heard better things about Redline. I like it. Also...open fill plug first. Redline for tranny and diff.

    Also....vanos is not plug and play. You will do 80% of the labor the Dr. Vanos way.

    I used M1 ATF for PS.

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  3. #23
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    i believe the dr vanos kits includes the vanos gasket and washers, fyi

    might as well toss in a magnetic drain plug while you're at it.
    --Wes--

    04 330i ZHP Oxford Green/Natural Brown
    04 330Ci ZHP Silvergrey/Alcantara (RIP)

  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by webster View Post
    i believe the dr vanos kits includes the vanos gasket and washers, fyi

    might as well toss in a magnetic drain plug while you're at it.
    For the tranny or diff? Doesn't look like he's donig cranks oil....

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    Call Me Dane l 2/2004 330i ZHP l 18x8 ET45 BBS CK's wrapped with Michelin Pilot Sport AS3+ @ 245-40-18 l KW V1 Coilovers in front l KW V1 springs w/ Bilstein B8 dampeners in rear l BMW Performance Rotors l UUC StrutBarbarian l Racing Dynamics Rear Strut Bar l Jim Conforti Shark Injector l Light Birch Interior Trim l Bimmian Celly Mount l M3 Trunk Mat l l e90 Performance E-Brake & Shift Knob l M3 Tri-Stitched Boots l AL Headlight Retrofit with ZKW Lenses l CobyWheel Wrap w/M3 Stitching l LCM sw 4.5 triple blink and rear fogs l Maple Interior Trim

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    Webster, you're right. Dr. Vanos kit includes gasket and crush washers.

    I need to do some more research on the merits of either kit, steps for removal, work involved. I just can't buy that there's 80% overlap - I've read both procedures, but I know you've done it several times.

    I've emailed Dr. Vanos and essentially asked why I would want to spend the money, and encouraged them to get as technical as possible in the response. We'll see what I get.
    Last edited by zj96sc; 10-05-2011 at 03:53 PM.

  6. #26
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    Beisan:
    Seal Kit - 60.00
    Rattle Kit - 60.00
    Jaw Liners - 15.00
    Gasket - 11-36-1-433-817 - 4.00
    Washers - 32-41-1-093-596 - (2x) - 0.50

    Dr. Vanos:
    VANOS - $250
    (includes gasket and 2x washers)

    Both:
    VCG - 11-12-0-030-496 - 23.00
    Nut Seal - 11-12-1-437-395 - (15x) - 15.00
    Vanos bolt - 11-36-1-748-745 - (2x) - 4.00


    Sums to $181.50 for Beisan, $292 even for Dr. VANOS.

    So $110.50 for what?

    Still waiting on a response from Dr. Vanos regarding what I get for my $110.50.

    Will post up when I have more info.

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    thanks, looking forward to their response.
    --Wes--

    04 330i ZHP Oxford Green/Natural Brown
    04 330Ci ZHP Silvergrey/Alcantara (RIP)

  8. #28
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    I'm interested, too; my Silbergrau rocketship arrives today between 11 and 12!

    Quote Originally Posted by zj96sc View Post
    Beisan:
    Seal Kit - 60.00
    Rattle Kit - 60.00
    Jaw Liners - 15.00
    Gasket - 11-36-1-433-817 - 4.00
    Washers - 32-41-1-093-596 - (2x) - 0.50

    Dr. Vanos:
    VANOS - $250
    (includes gasket and 2x washers)

    Both:
    VCG - 11-12-0-030-496 - 23.00
    Nut Seal - 11-12-1-437-395 - (15x) - 15.00
    Vanos bolt - 11-36-1-748-745 - (2x) - 4.00


    Sums to $181.50 for Beisan, $292 even for Dr. VANOS.

    So $110.50 for what?

    Still waiting on a response from Dr. Vanos regarding what I get for my $110.50.

    Will post up when I have more info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zj96sc View Post
    Beisan:
    Seal Kit - 60.00
    Rattle Kit - 60.00
    Jaw Liners - 15.00
    Gasket - 11-36-1-433-817 - 4.00
    Washers - 32-41-1-093-596 - (2x) - 0.50

    Dr. Vanos:
    VANOS - $250
    (includes gasket and 2x washers)

    Both:
    VCG - 11-12-0-030-496 - 23.00
    Nut Seal - 11-12-1-437-395 - (15x) - 15.00
    Vanos bolt - 11-36-1-748-745 - (2x) - 4.00


    Sums to $181.50 for Beisan, $292 even for Dr. VANOS.

    So $110.50 for what?

    Still waiting on a response from Dr. Vanos regarding what I get for my $110.50.

    Will post up when I have more info.
    Labor to rebuild the vanos....
    Call Me Dane l 2/2004 330i ZHP l 18x8 ET45 BBS CK's wrapped with Michelin Pilot Sport AS3+ @ 245-40-18 l KW V1 Coilovers in front l KW V1 springs w/ Bilstein B8 dampeners in rear l BMW Performance Rotors l UUC StrutBarbarian l Racing Dynamics Rear Strut Bar l Jim Conforti Shark Injector l Light Birch Interior Trim l Bimmian Celly Mount l M3 Trunk Mat l l e90 Performance E-Brake & Shift Knob l M3 Tri-Stitched Boots l AL Headlight Retrofit with ZKW Lenses l CobyWheel Wrap w/M3 Stitching l LCM sw 4.5 triple blink and rear fogs l Maple Interior Trim

  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by danewilson77 View Post
    Labor to rebuild the vanos....
    How much time are we talking about (Assume I am mildly mechanically-challenged, Dane)?

    BTW, does the engine have to be locked at TDC for this rebuild?

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