The Oil Thread

[ryankokesh]

Just read a lot about this... I didn't realize we couldn't run a LL04 oil.

Apparently the LL04 spec is for cars that'll run gasoline without any sulfur. So that'd limit it to cars in the EU. Since there's sulfur in US gas, we shouldn't use an LL04 oil for longer than 4-5k miles. I'm not sure I'll use it at all. Going to do some more reading...

[ryankokesh]

Also, here's Total's LL01 oil with free shipping:

http://www.autohausaz.com/search/pro...FcdDMgodx2AAyA

[ryankokesh]

I use the Total Quartz Ineo MC3 5W-40, it has more zinc to protect your bearings. LL-04 approved

So you're using a LL04 oil and all is well? You haven't happened to get a blackstone report, have you?

[LivesNearCostco]

Had no idea that LL-01 might protect our engines better than LL-04. Presumably Hermes is running the Total Energy 9000 5w-40 which is LL-01, while I'm on the INEO MC3 5w-30 which is LL-04. I'll probably switch to their 5w-40 at next change. Maybe I should put some Lubro Moly anti-wear additive in until then?

Edit: Ryan, where did you read about LL-01 vs. LL-04?

[ryankokesh]

Random forums... I did my best to get everyone's general consensus, as there's a lot of differing opinions out there. There's a short blurb about it in TIS as well.


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[ryankokesh]

Also, after all this reading, it's starting to seem like we can really use any synthetic oil, but only ll01 oils for really long oil change intervals. (As in like 14k miles...) Anyone know more about that? I'd be terrified to go that long on any oil...


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[Hermes]

Had no idea that LL-01 might protect our engines better than LL-04. Presumably Hermes is running the Total Energy 9000 5w-40 which is LL-01, while I'm on the INEO MC3 5w-30 which is LL-04. I'll probably switch to their 5w-40 at next change. Maybe I should put some Lubro Moly anti-wear additive in until then?

Edit: Ryan, where did you read about LL-01 vs. LL-04?

both Ineo blends are LL-04, the last LL-01 I used was BMW Castrol 5W-30

Also, after all this reading, it's starting to seem like we can really use any synthetic oil, but only ll01 oils for really long oil change intervals. (As in like 14k miles...) Anyone know more about that? I'd be terrified to go that long on any oil...


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there is no need to really worry about LL-01/LL-04 if you're following an old school maintenance schedule. It matters when you follow the new school 15k mile oil change interval. Technically, you could run dinosaur oil and just change it every 3000 miles.

here is the spec sheet on Quartz Ineo MC3 5W-30
http://www.lubadmin.com/upload/produ...ang_1/5832.pdf


and here is the sheet for 5W-40
http://www.total-lubricants.ca/Pages...NT0000F6E2.pdf

[Dave_B]

My concern with long oil changes...

The filter.

That said, I change my oil at 6-7500 miles. I use the OEM filter.

[ryankokesh]

My concern with long oil changes...

The filter.

^That.

Sounds like I'll probably use it for my next change and just make sure I replace it by 5k. Or I'll just use it on the mazda....

[ranger]

Curious - does anyone have any data about a ZHP engine that was damaged by using the "wrong" oil?