What did you do for your ZHP/ BMW / MINI today? #2

[az3579]

I'm just being nitpicky, BP! Part of me is looking forward to it for this reason and to see if there are ANY pros to the newer car.

Loaners most definitely aren't the cars to "check out". They're usually bare and only have the essential options for the region, such as iPod/aux and heated seats if in a cold climate in the winter.

I got lucky once and got a pretty fully loaded X1. It was Alpine White on Oyster, and had some extra packages including Premium Package, navigation, and some kind of X package. Getting a fully loaded one is a rarity around here though.

[Whammy]

I truthfully think BMW has to some extent lost their way. They are not the driver cars they use to be. I want cars that drive and have less technology, not more.

Also, all of the additional models BMW is producing is stupid. The whole GT stuff is crap.

[az3579]

I truthfully think BMW has to some extent lost their way. They are not the driver cars they use to be. I want cars that drive and have less technology, not more.

Also, all of the additional models BMW is producing is stupid. The whole GT stuff is crap.

Without all that fluff, we can't have enthusiast cars. No money = no fun cars.
You've got to have the fluff to have the fun.

[cakM3]

I truthfully think BMW has to some extent lost their way. They are not the driver cars they use to be. I want cars that drive and have less technology, not more.

I would say Audi has passed BMW here in this regard...

Also, all of the additional models BMW is producing is stupid. The whole GT stuff is crap.

I have to completely agree with you here

[NoVAphotog]

Loaners most definitely aren't the cars to "check out". They're usually bare and only have the essential options for the region, such as iPod/aux and heated seats if in a cold climate in the winter.

I meant..."check out" in the sense that I am staying positive in the face of adversity (leaving my baby in the hands of stealership)! I "checked out" the 4's awhile ago and would test drive the M235 for a more serious comparison.

[NoVAphotog]

Always nice to see how the newer car drives and looks but in the end.... I'm always glad to be behind the wheel of my E46's....

[NoVAphotog]

I would say Audi has passed BMW here in this regard...



I have to completely agree with you here

Drove my cousins 2015 S6 over the weekend...was very fun. Felt similar to the 435i, even though they aren't really competitors. It was so (read: dangerously) quick and the modern features really are crazy, built in WiFi, heads up display, the list goes on...

A lot of them just distracted me from the driving, turned most of them off.

[Whammy]

Without all that fluff, we can't have enthusiast cars. No money = no fun cars.
You've got to have the fluff to have the fun.

Agree to disagree to some extent. Specially when it comes to the technology in our car.

I would say Audi has passed BMW here in this regard...

I have to completely agree with you here

Maybe but hard to say. My bro has a '13 A4 and I hated driving it. Could not find the clutch engagement pedal, sloppy steering, and an overall underwhelming car. My 11yr old ZHP was far and wide better than his overpriced VW.

[slater]

you have to acknowledge that audi does a dang good job with build quality and makes a very safe, comfortable vehicle. but for the most part, they are not "driver's cars" in the sense that, say, a ZHP is.

my dad has a B7 RS4 cab and that thing is a beast - probably the best car audi/quattro has ever made (not the cab, but the B7 RS4 in general).

peter

[Whammy]

Slater,

I should have also stated, when driving the A4, I compared it to my '05 E46 325i I used to own. My 325i I felt was still better than his A4. BMW's design and attention to detail is far better than Audi, even to this day. My ZHP is just a more fine tuned version.

Build quality, yes Audi has done a good job. Attention to detail however still lacks a lot IMO.