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Thread: Manual Vs Auto

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    Manual Vs Auto

    So currently I have an Alpine White Zhp at 99,000 miles with an Auto transmission. My friend just replaced his auto with a manual in his 2001 740i by himself(he has a lift and everything needed). I have thought about having him help me change mine but don't know if it is worth the work/money. Basically, do you think it would increase the value of the car much or no? I know most people looking for Zhps want a manual one and therefore are likely willing to pay a little more. I just don't want to do all the work if it is going to really hurt me in the long run. Any input is appreciated. Thanks

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    Not worth it. If you want a manual car, sell the auto and get a manual one.

    His - 2004 Imola Red / Alcantara 330i | 6MT | ZHP |

    Her's - 2005 Black Sapphire Metallic / Black Leather 330i | 6MT | ZHP |

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    Quote Originally Posted by tnoobz14 View Post
    I know most people looking for Zhps want a manual one and therefore are likely willing to pay a little more. I just don't want to do all the work if it is going to really hurt me in the long run. Any input is appreciated. Thanks
    Unless you are keeping the car for yourself to enjoy, no one looking for a ZHP is going to want one that differs significantly from the original build sheet. A lot of folks who do swaps, whether it's interiors or transmissions are keeping their cars for the long haul. Significant mods like these do not add value regardless of what people are looking for. Sell the auto and buy a manual.

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    "Scarlett" the 2005 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT - Project/Maintenance Thread
    2011 BMW M3 E92 6MT - Info/Maintenance Thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoVAphotog View Post
    Unless you are keeping the car for yourself to enjoy, no one looking for a ZHP is going to want one that differs significantly from the original build sheet. A lot of folks who do swaps, whether it's interiors or transmissions are keeping their cars for the long haul. Significant mods like these do not add value regardless of what people are looking for. Sell the auto and buy a manual.
    +1

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    +1

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    Yup


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    I agree too.
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  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by NoVAphotog View Post
    Unless you are keeping the car for yourself to enjoy, no one looking for a ZHP is going to want one that differs significantly from the original build sheet. A lot of folks who do swaps, whether it's interiors or transmissions are keeping their cars for the long haul. Significant mods like these do not add value regardless of what people are looking for. Sell the auto and buy a manual.
    What Dan said here...

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    First, ask yourself why you want a manual in the first place...
    BMW could have made the Steptronic ZHP an 'also ran'.
    Instead, they went the extra mile to upgrade the Step to make it worthy of the rest of its "Performance Package".
    They put the 3.64 diff with the finned diff cooler in there, and they upgraded the shift programming.
    I have a 330i ZSP Step and a 330i ZHP Step and the shift program is definitely NOT as aggressive as the ZHP's. What you would think are damn near the same, are not at all. Completely different animals.
    I would argue that the performance difference between a properly driven Step, and a properly driven manual is really only a factor when you hit the track. AND, the performance difference is a LOT closer than you'd ever expect.
    I own a manual ZHP as well.

    BMW CCA # 510252

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    Manual Vs Auto

    I've had two auto e46s, in addition to driving my dad's zsp auto.

    There's no difference in the shift programming in any way, other than a higher red line in the ZHP.

    The difference you might be experiencing is a ZF vs GM transmission.


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