Shawn's (Colin's) '04 OB/tan, 6MT Sedan (KM06730)

[ELCID86]

Colin had a bad tire (drove on it with very low psi) and had to order new ones. He went with two rears --DWS 06 in 245/35/18.


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - an e46fanatic

[Vas]

Nice. What is on the front ?

[Johnmadd]

I did that before, they call it the ring of death lol. How much did the 2 rears cost out of curiosity. I went 255/35/18, why did he go 245?

[ELCID86]

I did that before, they call it the ring of death lol. How much did the 2 rears cost out of curiosity. I went 255/35/18, why did he go 245?

He's still running the normal size up front (225?).
Went with 245 b/c we didn't think he needed that much meat in the rear and they were quite a bit cheaper ($167/ea).


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - an e46fanatic

[Johnmadd]

Ok.

[ELCID86]

If this isn't a good idea. Plz let me know ASAP.


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - an e46fanatic

[Johnmadd]

If this isn't a good idea. Plz let me know ASAP.


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - an e46fanatic

No idea, I was just curious.

[Vas]

You can plug the sizing into here https://tiresize.com/comparison/

Basically the tire sizes are pretty identical. But there is a slight difference between the 255 vs 245 width.

Personally I would have stuck with the factory sizing even if the zhp does not need a 255 section width in the rear. It is just the sidewall is going to be smaller on the 245/35/18 and a slight speed difference.

[ELCID86]

You can plug the sizing into here https://tiresize.com/comparison/

Basically the tire sizes are pretty identical. But there is a slight difference between the 255 vs 245 width.

Personally I would have stuck with the factory sizing even if the zhp does not need a 255 section width in the rear. It is just the sidewall is going to be smaller on the 245/35/18 and a slight speed difference.

Thanks team. Bruce and Dane both confirmed this also.


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - an e46fanatic

[Vas]

Thanks team. Bruce and Dane both confirmed this also.


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - an e46fanatic

So did you keep them or change the order?

[ELCID86]

So did you keep them or change the order?
Stayed with 245/35. Will post back once installed.

[ELCID86]

Colin got the 245/35s installed. All seems to be fine (though I have yet to see the car in daylight...)

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24159


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - an e46fanatic

[NoVAphotog]

Colin got the 245/35s installed. All seems to be fine (though I have yet to see the car in daylight...)

24157

24158

24159


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - an e46fanatics

Looks good.

Those pros definitely outweigh the minor cons. It was purely a looks thing to put that much meat on there and even just having a staggered setup provides enough of that.

Plus we go through tires so fast you can always switch back if it's worth more to stay stock stay worry free...but I'm curious what he thinks after some driving time.


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[ELCID86]

Looks good.

Those pros definitely outweigh the minor cons. It was purely a looks thing to put that much meat on there and even just having a staggered setup provides enough of that.

Plus we go through tires so fast you can always switch back if it's worth more to stay stock stay worry free...but I'm curious what he thinks after some driving time.


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Agreed. And I'll ask him.

[Vas]

Cool.

[ELCID86]

A few from today. Probably the last...

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[Johnmadd]

:(

[san]

Do you think there is any structural damage?? I'm guessing not since impact was at a slow speed...




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[ELCID86]

No I don't think anythings wrong except all the front end parts.


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - anonymous

[rguti153]

Damn , noooooo

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[Vas]

Curious to know how much damage is calculated. Keep us updated

[ELCID86]

Stopped by today and talked to the two USAA guys. One likes BMWs a lot and was sorry to say he's pretty sure this one is a goner. They had not seen it but I had it pulled around so I could return the spare tire I borrowed over the weekend... he looked at the engine bay and asked about the headlights...figured $1200/each. cross member is bent above radiator. Wan is shoved back--he said you never know when an impeller or other internal parts are damaged (until they come apart after the car has been repaired)... I broke the news to Colin that it was not looking too promising. He's really not sure what he wants to replace it with. He's thinking about a beater that will just get him back and forth to work until he can get what he really wants (New-ish 4-runner?).

[BMWCurves]

Sad to hear. Colin doesn't want to try and get back into an E46?

[ELCID86]

Not sure William, we are looking...he did love the car and has no idea what else he might like.

USAA called, total loss and payout is $8570 with taxes included. I'll speak to the Total Loss department tomorrow and provide some "comps" on what the car is really worth...

[Vas]

Sorry to hear. It was a nice car.

[BMWCurves]

Not sure William, we are looking...he did love the car and has no idea what else he might like.

USAA called, total loss and payout is $8570 with taxes included. I'll speak to the Total Loss department tomorrow and provide some "comps" on what the car is really worth...

Just PMed you with my payout experience from GEICO when I had an unexpected meeting with an antelope at speed in my 2003 330Ci in July of 2014.

[ELCID86]

Just PMed you with my payout experience from GEICO when I had an unexpected meeting with an antelope at speed in my 2003 330Ci in July of 2014.

Thanks.

[Pupil_Heads]

Ouch! Sorry to hear about that [emoji24]


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[Johnmadd]

Shawn, buy it back and sell it to Bruce's friend.

[ELCID86]

Shawn, buy it back and sell it to Bruce's friend.

May do that. Depends on the offer Usaa gives me and if John is still interested.

[Oli77]

Sorry to see this (late) Shawn. Your son is OK I hope!

[BCS_ZHP]

Shawn, buy it back and sell it to Bruce's friend.

John,
"Friend" is a misnomer term in this case, I consider the "other John" an acquaintance - he buys totaled cars and parts them out, I've bought some parts from him in the past. A nice guy and a BMW fan but it's a business for him that requires space, his time, and positive cash flow. Aside from not having a facility or the time, I couldn't do it because I'd try to "save" too many of the cars and would likely lose money.
Bruce

[ELCID86]

I agree Bruce. I suppose eventually I could get my mind around "this ones a goner...", but trying to "save the ZHPs" would be hard to overcome.
I did ask him yesterday about a used set of rims I could buy and he gave a cryptic response. I think I found a set in MD and might get them to save the 135s off Colin's car (even though his need some refinishing).

[ELCID86]

Usaa does not appear to be budging off their initial value estimate of $8200 plus tax. I explained about the car and sent them three comps in the $11k plus range that they say are outliers and valued too high. I'm asking to speak to a supervisor.

[fredo]

Not cool. I assume you already sent a list with service records and parts replaced. Hope the supervisor will be helpful. GL.

[Vas]

Not cool at all

[ChristopherL]

Usaa does not appear to be budging off their initial value estimate of $8200 plus tax. I explained about the car and sent them three comps in the $11k plus range that they say are outliers and valued too high. I'm asking to speak to a supervisor.

Hi Shawn,

Sorry to see the damage. Glad to hear no injuries! Who was at fault?
Having been witness to this process with insurance companies a few times when dealing with E30 M3's, you need to send them recent sales data. Not just links to cars for sale at a higher price. You are not required to accept their offer for settlement. If you don't need the money to acquire a replacement vehicle immediately, it is in your best interest NOT to accept their offer.

Their goal is to close the claim ASAP for as little money as possible.

Also, find out what the buy-back is on the car. Again, I'm not familiar with your situation here, but if the buy back is $1,500 and you can get them to pay $10k for the car and buy it back, you'll come out $$ ahead if you part it out. The color combination should also work in your favor for valuation.

Best of luck,
-Chris

[ELCID86]

Hi Shawn,

Sorry to see the damage. Glad to hear no injuries! Who was at fault?
Having been witness to this process with insurance companies a few times when dealing with E30 M3's, you need to send them recent sales data. Not just links to cars for sale at a higher price. You are not required to accept their offer for settlement. If you don't need the money to acquire a replacement vehicle immediately, it is in your best interest NOT to accept their offer.

Their goal is to close the claim ASAP for as little money as possible.

Also, find out what the buy-back is on the car. Again, I'm not familiar with your situation here, but if the buy back is $1,500 and you can get them to pay $10k for the car and buy it back, you'll come out $$ ahead if you part it out. The color combination should also work in your favor for valuation.

Best of luck,
-Chris

Thanks Chris. No injuries and my son was at fault.

I have told them I don't accept their evaluation.
I'm not sure the best way to find "recent sales data". Suggestions?

I will ask about buy back but don't really have anywhere to store it though JohnMad did volunteer, he's several hours from me. A friend here on the boards knows a local guy who is interested so I might buy it and let him buy it from me.

[ChristopherL]

Thanks Chris. No injuries and my son was at fault.

I have told them I don't accept their evaluation.
I'm not sure the best way to find "recent sales data". Suggestions?

I will ask about buy back but don't really have anywhere to store it though JohnMad did volunteer, he's several hours from me. A friend here on the boards knows a local guy who is interested so I might buy it and let him buy it from me.

If you really want to go back and fight with USAA - start with the "What did you pay" thread here on the forum.
Live links to cars in comparable (or even worse) condition that have sold for more than what USAA is offering you plus confirmation of sales price from the buyer is current and accurate data.

That information, mixed with current sale listings in the higher price bracket will assist you in establishing a baseline.
No offense to any member who reads this, but if we're seeing Steptronic cars selling at $7,800-8500, a 6-speed manual should be worth a slight premium over that.

Best of luck!
-Chris

[ELCID86]

Still waiting on final evaluation from Usaa (cure at $9100 including taxes).

Colin fronted the money and paid cash for a very clean 1-owner Acura TSX. He's very happy and will be able to pocket some cash as well.

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[fredo]

How many miles on the TSX clock ?

[Pupil_Heads]

Not bad


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[ELCID86]

How many miles on the TSX clock ?

110k.

[fw_fw]

110k.

Great choice on that 1st Gen TSX. 5 Speed I presume?? Make sure the timing belt and water pump is current on the TSX. Other than that they are fairly bulletproof...

[ZacharyMikel]

Great choice on that 1st Gen TSX. 5 Speed I presume?? Make sure the timing belt and water pump is current on the TSX. Other than that they are fairly bulletproof...

I believe the K-series cars are timing chain. The tensioners do go bad though, important to have those serviced if necessary.

[ELCID86]

I believe the K-series cars are timing chain. The tensioners do go bad though, important to have those serviced if necessary.

Yes. Chain FTW. And I agree on the v-Tech. My wife drives one too! Went from 2 Bimmers to 2 Acuras. Though this one is all Colin's as he paid for it and is insuring it...

[ZacharyMikel]

Yes. Chain FTW. And I agree on the v-Tech. My wife drives one too! Went from 2 Bimmers to 2 Acuras. Though this one is all Colin's as he paid for it and is insuring it...

I had an RSX Type-S my freshman year of college. Those motors are a blast. I'm sure he will enjoy it!

[Johnmadd]

Yes. Chain FTW. And I agree on the v-Tech. My wife drives one too! Went from 2 Bimmers to 2 Acuras. Though this one is all Colin's as he paid for it and is insuring it...

You should feel proud.

[fw_fw]

I believe the K-series cars are timing chain. The tensioners do go bad though, important to have those serviced if necessary.

You're right, I stand corrected......I forgot that Acura had several timing chain engines back then.....

[NVthree30i]

The car is doing great I replaced all the parts in the front end no extra damages . Replaced headlights , hood , radiator support , radiator , fan , grills . I'm very happy with it glad I saved it , next I will be looking for a set of style 135 also replaced front seats , door cards , shark injectors and paint correction .