Consent? Or no?

[danewilson77]

Researching this, I ran across the below thread and wanted to ensure (from my own photogs) that I'm reading this correctly. I will be the photographer for my son's soccer club this season.

http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=253888

From the read, I gather I do not need anyones permission to take pictures (public setting/non-commercial use) and post to a separate Photobucket folder for the Thunder United Soccer Club.

Just wanted to hear your thoughts. Thanks.

The friendliest forum on the planet!

[ELCID86]

I'm not a lawyer or professional shooter, but I don't think you do if you are taking pictures in a public setting, etc. We do have a photo release form we use for our Boy Scout troop just to be on hte safe side. You never know if some family has a custody issue, etc.

I listen to a few podcasts that hit on this topic quite frequently

http://improvephotography.com/category/podcast/ (Jim is a lawyer)

http://thisweekinphoto.com/twip-episodes/

[3ZHPGUY]

I believe you only need to ask permission if you are making money from the picture. This is the general rule but, I'll look further about people.

https://www.aclu.org/free-speech/know-your-rights-photographers



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[NoVAphotog]

Considering I have entire galleries full of images of people and absolutely love candid street photography...I will safely say as long as you are in a public place with "public light" cascading from the heavens upon your subjects it is perfectly legal.

Now, this applies to my street photography, not photographing other family's kids...I like Shawn's method of contacting the group/team and setting up a release form to hand out/email covering the whole season in the language. Basically, "I will be photographing the team this season, is everyone alright with that, if not, I will not post nor publish pictures of x person"

I doubt anyone would have an issue, but you never know what Mom may read online and freak out...

[TheFinanceGuy]

Another thing to consider is the area in which you are photographing. Some fields may not be considered public space.

[NoVAphotog]

Another thing to consider is the area in which you are photographing. Some fields may not be considered public space.

+1

[Oli77]

Both my boys played soccer for high school and we had to consent for pictures of our children at games.

See HERE (https://sites.google.com/site/boyssoccerlhs/documents) and download the 6th document "tryout registration package.pdf".

You can cover yourself that way.

[johnrando]

I really don't know. They way I do it is I put a password on the site, like photobucket, then email the link and the password to the group. So, in essence, it's a "public site", but if you don't know the link, you wouldn't likely find it. And if you do, only the people in the group know the password so in essence, it's private.

So, maybe you tell them that. Tell them they will be on a "public" site with a password that only registrants to the soccer league will know. Guessing that should satisfy people. In fact, I've made different photobucket IDs for different groups, and given out the ID/PW to all members in that group so they can add their own.

[brettbimmer]

Just a passing thought - if everyone needed consent for photos of people all the time, wouldn't all the paparazzi in the world be in jail or quickly out of a job?

[330i ZHP]

cant hurt, why not CYA

[wsmeyer]

I'm not a lawyer but things like this do pique my interest and have read of a few similar situations over on fredmiranda.com.

In general you don't need anyone's permission to take picture in a public place or even of a private place that is viewable from a public space. It's not absolute though as it has been well established that government entities can grant exclusive use and control over public places for events via permits.

The closest analogy I can come up with is let's say that a popular band wants to put on a free concert at the local park. If you were to stand on the sidewalk or street just outside the permitted area of the park, you could take all the pictures you wanted and even sell them without getting anyone's consent. Once you step foot inside the permitted area it's a whole different story though and would depend upon the contract between the band and the organizer as to who would be able to grant you permission and rights to any photos you took (from a commercial standpoint anyway).

In Dane's situation, assuming he's taking these from the sidelines or stands. He should get written permission from the organizers so at the very least it's documented who he is, what he's doing, and what he's doing with the photos. As for getting consent from the parents? I would not open that can of worms as it's really between the parents and the organizers.

[danewilson77]

Yeah....I feel like there would be a few parents that would NOT consent. Then. .I would have to NOT take pictures of them? It would be impossible for me to keep track of, etc...

The friendliest forum on the planet!

[danewilson77]

Both my boys played soccer for high school and we had to consent for pictures of our children at games.

See HERE (https://sites.google.com/site/boyssoccerlhs/documents) and download the 6th document "tryout registration package.pdf".

You can cover yourself that way.

Thanks for example Oli

[wsmeyer]

Yeah....I feel like there would be a few parents that would NOT consent. Then. .I would have to NOT take pictures of them? It would be impossible for me to keep track of, etc...

The friendliest forum on the planet!

I would assume you would still take all the pictures you wanted but would not post publicly the one's who didn't consent. This becomes problematic when you're looking at pictures where the numbers aren't showing of the kids not the main subject of the picture.

I think a worse situation is where you ask consent and a parent specifically asks you not to, then another photographer, perhaps even from another team posts pictures of the kid and then the parents are screaming at the organizers.

[danewilson77]

Lol. What a pain.

The friendliest forum on the planet!

[danewilson77]

I guess our players check a "consent" box when we sign up, so I should be good to go. Wifey filled out paperwork so I wasn't privey. Good discussion regardless.

The friendliest forum on the planet.

[danewilson77]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/22/94c49da83def0e9c0a475e97ed666412.jpg

The friendliest forum on the planet!