Light birch trim came in!

[danewilson77]

Does anyone else have a bead on fiscally responsibly hardware for the interior trim finishers? Pretty expensive stuff given the quantity needed.

If anyone has a pay it forward set they'd like to sell.... I'm game.

I believe I need 7 of PC 13 and 16 of PC 12. Please correct me if I'm wrong. It's been a fair amount of time since I've had to monkey with trim. Thanks.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161115/61a57d08b5d55b0659512e8fad4a4563.jpg

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showparts?id=EV53-USA-02-2004-E46-BMW-330i&diagId=51_3310

I do not remember the door trim finisher hardware looking like a bolt.

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[ClimRox]

I'm fairly certain I used 11 and 13 when reattaching the silver cube door trim in my car. Nothing was threaded as I recall. 4 of each per door?

[az3579]

The pieces that hold the door trims in are definitely not bolts.
I have a few pieces of Piece 13, not sure exactly how many. I'll check when I get home.

[danewilson77]

Thanks for the responses so far guys.

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[BMWCurves]

Is transferring the hardware from your current trim not an option? I had no issues doing it when I swapped my sister's black cube for silver cube earlier this year.

[danewilson77]

No trim present. I sold my silver trim a while ago and included my hardware and have been waiting to get my hands on the birch.

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[GotZHP]

I'll check with my local parts guy Dane. I used new hardware to install the two trim pieces over the CD player and glove box. Was pretty cheap if i remember correctly. I bought five or six of number 13 & number 10

[danewilson77]

I'll check with my local parts guy Dane. I used new hardware to install the two trim pieces over the CD player and glove box. Was pretty cheap if i remember correctly. I bought five or six of number 13 & number 10

Much thanks

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[danewilson77]

In my quest to find the smooth trim hardware, I ran into these:

///M4 GTS 35 year anniversary edition.

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A limited edition i8:

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[danewilson77]

Didn't find the door hardware. The only thing carried is the threaded stuff. $9 per thread bolt x 16. Can just buy 16 though because they come in bags of 10.....lmao.

I'll buy the ones online for $3 and change if no one responds that they've got some extras.

Thanks for looking.

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[GotZHP]

Didn't find the door hardware. The only thing carried is the threaded stuff. $9 per thread bolt x 16. Can just buy 16 though because they come in bags of 10.....lmao.

I'll buy the ones online for $3 and change if no one responds that they've got some extras.

Thanks for looking.

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Dane,

Parts guy has been out for surgery but he e-mailed me back last night saying he will be back to work tomorrow or Monday. I remember paying around ~1.20 or 1.40 for the pieces. Shipping should be cheap since they are light.

[danewilson77]

Dane,

Parts guy has been out for surgery but he e-mailed me back last night saying he will be back to work tomorrow or Monday. I remember paying around ~1.20 or 1.40 for the pieces. Shipping should be cheap since they are light.
Ok. I'll wait. Thank you

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[GotZHP]

Dane, Could you explain a little more detail exactly which trim pieces you are putting in? You are just replacing the cube trim all around right? I got part numbers from real oem but dont think they are what you need, at least for the trim over the cd player and glove box. When I did my trim, I had these metal pins that pushed into the orange plastic pieces that mount in the dash. I bought new orange insert pieces to go with new pins as some where broken and some pulled out of the dash. What is the condition of yours? Having been there, investigate before you purchase because if they are loose or worn, your trim wont sit right. I may have a few in the car and I'll go look at what I used.

12 Threaded bolt 51416976220 QTY= 16
13 Pin D=6X25 51458266808 QTY= 7

[GotZHP]

Was off on the price :/ those little guys are expensive! I have attached my quote for the Pins and Inserts (Ignore the dipstick tube O-ring). Also, a few pictures of what I used, and BTW I have 3 spare pins and one insert that I wont be needed. My issue was when I removed the trim, the inserts ripped out of the dash. Even with two sets of vice locks, I could not get the pin to come out of the insert. One of the two inserts is damaged.281362813728138

Edit: I Pay the Net price:)

[danewilson77]

I have the long pins (PC 13 for the dash trim pieces).

It's all four door trims. I've had my trim off plenty of times and I just don't remember them being threaded. I've conceded to acquiring the threaded bolts (PC 12) now by whatever means I can get them.

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[danewilson77]

Please quote me 16 of these:

51416976220

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[fredo]

I still have my old trim, so I checked into this.

For the dash trim, you need 7 of each: part #10 (orange clips) and #13.
For the doors trim, 16 of each: part #11 (clear clips) and #12.

I have these spares: 1 long clip, 8 orange and 5 clear clips.

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On the doors trim, I see the threaded bolts which are attached to the trim itself. They are covered by another bolt (without thread on the outside), then the clear clip goes on top. I can send you my extras (1 long clip, orange and clear clips) plus the bolt covers if you need them.

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[danewilson77]

I still have my old trim, so I checked into this.

For the dash trim, you need 7 of each: part #10 (orange clips) and #13.
For the doors trim, 16 of each: part #11 (clear clips) and #12.

I have these spares: 1 long clip, 8 orange and 5 clear clips.

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On the doors trim, I see the threaded bolts which are attached to the trim itself. They are covered by another bolt (without thread on the outside), then the clear clip goes on top. I can send you my extras (1 long clip, orange and clear clips) plus the bolt covers if you need them.

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Thanks. I have all brand new orange and clear clips. Why does PC 13 point t to door trim?

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[GotZHP]

Please quote me 16 of these:

51416976220

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Will do. Will have a response on Monday!

[danewilson77]

Guess I still need to figure out the sleeve that screws onto them?

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[fredo]

Dane ... Maybe they improved the design of the threaded bolts and the sleeves are now obsolete. I will send you mine if you need them. Let me know.

As for part #13 showing on the doors trim, that must be a mistake.

[CarbonZHP]

I usually grab a handfull of the orange inserts when Im at a salvage yard. At least half of them are destroyed each time I remove the trim

[danewilson77]

Dane ... Maybe they improved the design of the threaded bolts and the sleeves are now obsolete. I will send you mine if you need them. Let me know.

As for part #13 showing on the doors trim, that must be a mistake.
Fredo,

Is there anyway you could bet me a closer picture of:

1. Threaded bolt

2. Threaded sleeve.

3. 1 and 2 together as an assembly?

Thanks in advance.


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[az3579]

Dane,
This is what it's supposed to look like for the door trim:

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161121/d7d3a3222cf7952b1ed3b6e6f163e6d2.jpg


I honestly have no idea what all this talk of "threaded sleeves" is all about... I've never once seen a door trim with such a setup. They've all been this type of pin that I've pictured.

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[fredo]

Hope these 2 pics clarify the situation.

Threaded bolt (left arrow) and bolt with sleeve (2nd arrow).
BTW, my door trim looks different to the one BP posted.
Dane, how does your trim looks compared to BP's and mine ?

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The second pic shows a couple of my sleeves.

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[johnrando]

I am going to install some trim. So, should I order these new threaded ones with new sleeves? They are not expensive so I don't mind ordering a set. Benefits?

[fredo]

Looking at realoem it appears only the threaded bolts are available for the doors trim. There's no indication of sleeves in there, so hopefully they come included with the threaded bolts.

Not sure if it's a factor, but the pics I posted are for the wood trim usually found on the e46 325i. That's the one I have in a box so it was easy to get pics.

[danewilson77]

Dane,
This is what it's supposed to look like for the door trim:

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161121/d7d3a3222cf7952b1ed3b6e6f163e6d2.jpg


I honestly have no idea what all this talk of "threaded sleeves" is all about... I've never once seen a door trim with such a setup. They've all been this type of pin that I've pictured.

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Understood.

BP, give me a P/N please kind Sir.

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[danewilson77]

$40 in hardware for front trim.

Break My Wallet

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[az3579]

Understood.

BP, give me a P/N please kind Sir.

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Considering nobody can seem to find the P/N, I'm inclined to say such a thing doesn't exist.
But, here's what I'll do for ya. I have a spare set of silver cube trim that has the pins installed... I'll send you those pins.
All I ask is that if you ever change out your trim and your replacement trim comes with pins already installed, that you just send these back to me. In the mean time, if I ever have to swap back to silver, I could just transfer from the black cube set I have installed now.

[Oli77]

Enough with the pins already!

I keep coming back to the thread to see pictures of the birch trim and can't see it!

[danewilson77]

Considering nobody can seem to find the P/N, I'm inclined to say such a thing doesn't exist.
But, here's what I'll do for ya. I have a spare set of silver cube trim that has the pins installed... I'll send you those pins.
All I ask is that if you ever change out your trim and your replacement trim comes with pins already installed, that you just send these back to me. In the mean time, if I ever have to swap back to silver, I could just transfer from the black cube set I have installed now.
That's way generous BP. Greatly appreciated. Is it your belief the trim should have these installed already (i.e. The purpose s come with the trim)?

You have my shipping address. Let me know if I can compensate you. I agree to send these back to you per your terms.


Enough with the pins already!

I keep coming back to the thread to see pictures of the birch trim and can't see it!

Suspenseful isn't it? This trim has been sitting in a box next to my dining room table. I've looked at it everyday, while dealing with this debacle.

Teaser pic for now.

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Apparently all of the wood for a set comes from the same tree, so it's important the set never be separated.

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[az3579]

Enough with the pins already!

I keep coming back to the thread to see pictures of the birch trim and can't see it!


Speaking of pins,
Looking at the new part that Fredo referenced above (the threaded bolt), the size description looks exactly the same as the smooth pins that I posted a pic of. The head looks similar as well. I'm thinking that the only difference between my part and the one on RealOEM is the fact that one is threaded. In theory, that pin should still insert into the clear plastic clips just fine.

Compare my pic above to the threaded bolt part:

https://c1552172.ssl.cf0.rackcdn.com/278094_x800.jpg

[danewilson77]

Speaking of pins,
Looking at the new part that Fredo referenced above (the threaded bolt), the size description looks exactly the same as the smooth pins that I posted a pic of. The head looks similar as well. I'm thinking that the only difference between my part and the one on RealOEM is the fact that one is threaded. In theory, that pin should still insert into the clear plastic clips just fine.

Compare my pic above to the threaded bolt part:

https://c1552172.ssl.cf0.rackcdn.com/278094_x800.jpg
Agree. Funny how no one can from BMW tell me whether or not it's an upgraded/new part.

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[danewilson77]

That's way generous BP. Greatly appreciated. Is it your belief the trim should have these installed already (i.e. The purpose s come with the trim)?

You have my shipping address. Let me know if I can compensate you. I agree to send these back to you per your terms.



Suspenseful isn't it? This trim has been sitting in a box next to my dining room table. I've looked at it everyday, while dealing with this debacle.

Teaser pic for now.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161122/013ec3534df51611332ea3d90d76a833.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161122/f28304cfa0330f113c87e1c41b4db08d.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161122/57a62825f8f04e5c4d56d5f91ff4c8ba.jpg

Apparently all of the wood for a set comes from the same tree, so it's important the set never be separated.

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Oh.... And by the way, if anyone is interested in one of these NLA , one of a kind sets, let me know. I may know where to find a set or two (coupe or saloon).

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[Oli77]

Thanks Dane, you have appeased me, at least for now.
Can't wait to see it on the car.
You and your "not so special" trims!

[az3579]

Oh.... And by the way, if anyone is interested in one of these NLA , one of a kind sets, let me know. I may know where to find a set or two (coupe or saloon).

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I keep thinking about how awesome it would look on an NB interior. :shifty

[danewilson77]

I keep thinking about how awesome it would look on an NB interior. :shifty
:drool

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[Pip]

That trim is beautiful.


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[danewilson77]

Time to man up.... Lol.

I have a funny story for you.

Never ASSume anything. When I sold my silver cube trim this year, I included all mounting hardware (dash trim and doors) . At the time, my brain was programmed with the need to purchase new hardware when I found my light birch.

Fast forward to today, as you know I haven't unwrapped the light birch trim because I KNEW I lacked the hardware to install. I went to several dealers who couldn't find the correct part for the door trim, etc, etc...

I was prompted last night to unwrap the trim and sure enough, all the pins are there like they should be. I guess because the dash trim pins are removable, I ASSumed the same held true for the door trim, and would not be included.

I now believe the dash trim mounting hardware can be purchased aside of the trim, whereas the door trim hardware is integral to the trim itself.

Idiot moment realized. Sorry for the drama.

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[holyc0w]

Oh man :biggrin

So...time to install?

[slater]

very cool, dane - can't wait to see it installed!

imagine this on an oxford green car... wowzers!! :drool

[az3579]

What I don't understand is why your door trim pins are "integrated" into the trim, while mine can be slid out of their retainers...
WTF, BMW?

[ryankokesh]

That's gonna look reeeeeally nice.

You always have the best trim...

[danewilson77]

$40 in hardware for front trim.

Break My Wallet

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My sickness was worse than I thought. I actually needed zero pins to install 100% of the trim. The piece above the dash being metal with wood laminate over it threw me for a loop as well.

Every single pin was integrated into the trim.

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[danewilson77]

I'll provide better pictures later. I was super rushed. I had about 30 minutes to install then head south for Logans basketball scrimmage.

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[WOLFN8TR]

Looks Sweet!

[Johnmadd]

Very nice.

[slater]

looks great, dane! :)

[johnrando]

Omg. :drool

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[ELCID86]

Glad you got it in. Keep the wood peckers and termites away ;-)

[danewilson77]

Thanks guys.

Some better pics...

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161123/2f7aa9ebf2fd4ff202fdd90a40c2d867.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161123/e570b00fad9b1382f323104b50c5700a.jpg

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[san]

Classy!


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[az3579]

Gor jus.

[fredo]

:like

[UdubBadger]

Pretty unique!


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[Oli77]

My favorite is the outside shot. Speaks to me. Draaaws me in.

[cakM3]

The new trim looks absolutely awesome Dane!! [emoji1360]


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[fw_fw]

Looks awesome!!!

[SWO Daddy]

Wow... I currently have the black cube with my natural brown interior. Trying to envision birch with the natural brown / black two-toned interior.

[az3579]

Wow... I currently have the black cube with my natural brown interior. Trying to envision birch with the natural brown / black two-toned interior.

No need to envision - that's what Google Image search is for. :)

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6950/2056/1024/DSC01193.jpg

http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20770&d=1436930054

[quikryptonite]

That turned out very well! Looks great!

[SWO Daddy]

No need to envision - that's what Google Image search is for. :)

http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20770&d=1436930054

Sweet! I'm liking the contrast on the dash but not so much with the arm rest.