- What’s Next???

[Fasteddie222]

Well guys my zhp just hit 52,000 miles and is 100% stock just put new wheels on it and gloss black grill. What should I do next.
LSD, angel eyes, dinan?

I’m bored and have money to spend on it but don’t know if I should just keep it stock.


What do you guys think.

Maybe I’ll sell it and get more of a project car

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[fredo]

Nice car. I say go for some Dinan goodies.

[Fasteddie222]

Thanks thats what I was thinking. This isn't my daily driver either I use it maybe 3 times a month. I even thought about supercharging it lol

[san]

Refresh the suspension components if it hasn’t been done yet.


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[BMWCurves]

That's a good looking coupe! What you do always depends on your goals. But most importantly, I'd make sure maintenance is up to date. The best ZHP is a well maintained ZHP, IMO.

I'll always suggest a suspension refresh. My shocks were toast at 50k miles. Here's what I did to get an "OEM+" suspension refresh: http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?16182-Help-with-Suspension-Refresh-at-50k-miles-10-years

EDIT: San beat me to it.

[san]

That's a good looking coupe! What you do always depends on your goals. But most importantly, I'd make sure maintenance is up to date. The best ZHP is a well maintained ZHP, IMO.

I'll always suggest a suspension refresh. My shocks were toast at 50k miles. Here's what I did to get an "OEM+" suspension refresh: http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?16182-Help-with-Suspension-Refresh-at-50k-miles-10-years

EDIT: San beat me to it.

But your response is so much more elaborate as usual :thumbsup


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[JPMo]

I'm all for getting new interior pieces. I hate the look of a scratched center console and lower steering wheel trim

[Reasoned1]

Assuming no maintenance issues or needed refreshes, I'd drop $200 for a used, shorter ratio differential (3.38 is generally recommended); however, if you want to spend an extra $1,500 to optimize your traction, go for an MFactory LSD (while it's out, you may also want to opt for a Z4 cover for another $150). After that, I would go with some APEX wheels for about $1,000 (I like a square set-up, but that'll cost you at least two new tires). I'm sure many people would say go with the wheels first, and it is a tough call, but you will notice the extra torque from the shorter gearbox more than the lighter wheels (although they are great) and, if you go the open diff route, it's a lot cheaper.

The little things I notice a lot are the CDV delete (much better clutch feel, $0), the TMS pedals (soooooo sharp, $150 including dead pedal), and the Wheelskins steering wheel cover (very nice, $60)--in that order.

[Fasteddie222]

Assuming no maintenance issues or needed refreshes, I'd drop $200 for a used, shorter ratio differential (3.38 is generally recommended); however, if you want to spend an extra $1,500 to optimize your traction, go for an MFactory LSD (while it's out, you may also want to opt for a Z4 cover for another $150). After that, I would go with some APEX wheels for about $1,000 (I like a square set-up, but that'll cost you at least two new tires). I'm sure many people would say go with the wheels first, and it is a tough call, but you will notice the extra torque from the shorter gearbox more than the lighter wheels (although they are great) and, if you go the open diff route, it's a lot cheaper.

The little things I notice a lot are the CDV delete (much better clutch feel), the TMS pedals (soooooo sharp), and the Wheelskins steering wheel cover (very nice)--in that order.

Yeah I agree about the scratched interior pieces :/ hate it. I currently do have the apex fl5 wheels just put them on. The suspension seems great. I looked into it. The car overall is in great shape. I think the LSD is next going to look more into it


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[Fasteddie222]

By the way. What a difference with the new wheels and tires. Night and day!!!!! Highly recommended


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[johnrando]

Everything in my project thread. :biggrin :thumbsup

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[Fasteddie222]

Everything in my project thread. :biggrin :thumbsup

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Haha now we are talking!!! How many miles does yours have. Just feel bad putting a bunch of aftermarket parts on such a nice clean car

[johnrando]

All mine are OEM, unless there was something better or not made by BMW. I'm at about 89K.

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[BMWM3186]

I'd skip the Dinan goodies. I have a throttle body, intake, and tune and I couldnt even pull on a friends standard auto 330.

[Fasteddie222]

I'd skip the Dinan goodies. I have a throttle body, intake, and tune and I couldnt even pull on a friends standard auto 330.

Well that’s good to know. That’s disappointing


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[Reasoned1]

I don't have any data on how various 330's stack up against each other, but that might be a reflection of the automatic's shorter gearbox, which would strengthen the case for doing the same. Now, I'm NOT saying the shorter gearbox will necessarily get you to 60 faster but, in a given gear, it will pull harder, and it will get to higher speeds more quickly.

[webster]

LSD + wheels would be my recommendation for most noticeable performance gains. also a good tune.

edit: i see you already have done wheels.

[ZHPizza]

I don't have any data on how various 330's stack up against each other, but that might be a reflection of the automatic's shorter gearbox, which would strengthen the case for doing the same. Now, I'm NOT saying the shorter gearbox will necessarily get you to 60 faster but, in a given gear, it will pull harder, and it will get to higher speeds more quickly.

I have a 3.38 rear end sitting in the garage waiting for a free weekend to go in the car. My rough math told me that it would result in ~10% more torque to the wheels, so making the stock 222 lb-ft feel like 244. Is that the feeling you got with the 3.38?

[BMWCurves]

I have a 3.38 rear end sitting in the garage waiting for a free weekend to go in the car. My rough math told me that it would result in ~10% more torque to the wheels, so making the stock 222 lb-ft feel like 244. Is that the feeling you got with the 3.38?

I want to do this at some point. Which E46s have 3.38 from the factory?


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[ZHPizza]

I want to do this at some point. Which E46s have 3.38 from the factory?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI think all auto transmission non-zhp 330's. They have a sticker on top indicating the ratio. I got this one on eBay for like $150 shipped from California. It has almost 200k miles on it, but I just wanted something with the right input flange that I could swap in to see how I liked it.

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If the 3.38 doesn't bother me on the highway, then I have a 3.46 from a 325i (wrong input flange) that I'll send off to MFactory to do their thing.

[Reasoned1]

That is exactly right--10% more torque to the wheels, but I daresay that's equal to 25% more fun!

Most people say, and I'm willing to agree based on my experience, that 3.38 is the perfect final drive gear ratio (3.46 is practically the same) for our NA engines as it boosts torque at the wheels significantly without significantly increasing cruising rpm or compromising useful top end speed, That said, I would love to try a 3.64 or even shorter diff sometime.

[Fasteddie222]

I do have this sitting in my garage
UUC corsa but do I really want to cut my Oem exhaust. That’s the real question

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[Fasteddie222]

Oh yeah and also have these but do I really want to go with aftermarket angel eyes lol

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[BMWCurves]

I assume the Corsa exhaust an axle-back?

[Fasteddie222]

I assume the Corsa exhaust an axle-back?

Yes axle back


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[holyc0w]

I do have this sitting in my garage
UUC corsa but do I really want to cut my Oem exhaust. That’s the real question

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Yes, yes you do

[az3579]

Yes, yes you do


This.

[Fasteddie222]

Lmao this exhaust has to be as good as everyone says. I only have the cat back should i buy the rest of the exhaust? I bought the catback locally

[holyc0w]

Lmao this exhaust has to be as good as everyone says. I only have the cat back should i buy the rest of the exhaust? I bought the catback locally

Would it be easy to get the rest?

The axle back sounds good by itself.

[Sockethead]

The Corsa is definitely the best sounding...

[cornercarver]

Cheapest mod (practically free! :p) is the muffler delete. I like the sound and it cost me less than $50, plus a few hours of fabrication.

Heres a video FWIW;
(Ignore the rattle at idle; it was just a loose clamp.)

http://youtu.be/KuCv4D1Hdgw

[ZHPizza]

^that reminded me of the best free mod that you can do on a manual - the cdv delete

Definitely do that if you haven't yet

[Sockethead]

We're gonna do that on the M2 real soon...

[Fasteddie222]

Oh well I decided here we go. Just put on all blacked out headlights with angel eyes. Putting the exhaust later on this week. Next mods...

Bmw performance brakes
ESS supercharger

Lol

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[Fasteddie222]

They do have this for sale locally... ummmm

https://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/pts/d/bmw-supercharger/6583522173.html


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[cornercarver]

That's definitely 'shipper' than buying new. :rofl

[Fasteddie222]

That's definitely 'shipper' than buying new. :rofl

Lmao I noticed that


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[Fasteddie222]

Alright angel eyes are in dammit they wouldn’t turn off and it was because of a faulty relay. Looks great. Exhaust coming in soon. Really liking the look

Thinking about getting the smoked looking LED tail lights.
Like these
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[danewilson77]

Alright angel eyes are in dammit they wouldn’t turn off and it was because of a faulty relay. Looks great. Exhaust coming in soon. Really liking the look

Thinking about getting the smoked looking LED tail lights.
Like these
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[Sockethead]

smoked tails will look good! What exhaust are you going with?

EDIT: forgot you got that UUC tail section...

[Fasteddie222]

Well you guys small update. Added 500hp today!!!!!! I installed the exhaust. Sounds amazing.

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And here’s something I picked up from another ZHP mafia member.

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Still debating on picking up the local active autowerke supercharger kit they are selling for $2,800....


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[joeybananaz18]

oooooh nice. would love to hear a sound clip when you get one.

[BMWCurves]

Why even need a supercharger when you've got that intake/exhaust combo tho?

[Sockethead]

I imagine the AA supercharger is a centrifugal unit? They aren't as difficult to install as a twin screw... I say go for it

[Newjack]

I imagine the AA supercharger is a centrifugal unit? They aren't as difficult to install as a twin screw... I say go for it

It is centrifugal. I can't speak to the supercharger itself but I have heard some people with AA tunes that were having AFR issues. Seems to be commonplace with any unit though. If someone sold good tunes they could really make a name for themselves.

[Sockethead]

The problem is every car is different. Any car that is getting boosted should have the AFR measured as a precaution if nothing else. I've had a hell of time getting the AFR dialed in on my car but that's mostly the tuner's fault for not listening to me

[Fasteddie222]

Good thing is that active autowerke is down the street from me so if I ever have a problem I could take it to them


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[Sockethead]

Really? Then definitely go for the SC. If you go down that path, I'd definitely get a dyno run with AFR for safety's sake before you go around town at full throttle. There is always that chance that AFR will be too low and cook the motor. I think AA has a dyno onsite

[Fasteddie222]

Really? Then definitely go for the SC. If you go down that path, I'd definitely get a dyno run with AFR for safety's sake before you go around town at full throttle. There is always that chance that AFR will be too low and cook the motor. I think AA has a dyno onsite

Yeah don’t know much about the kit. Here are some pictures. Good thing is my engine is pretty healthy and only has 50,000 miles.

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[Sockethead]

Looks complete. Perhaps download the installation instructions and check out the parts list. You'll also have to check with AA about the required tune. Some companies lock that to the DME so it may not be transferrable

[Fasteddie222]

Looks complete. Perhaps download the installation instructions and check out the parts list. You'll also have to check with AA about the required tune. Some companies lock that to the DME so it may not be transferrable

Iff I buy it I’ll take it to AA to get it installed. I don’t want to mess with that lol my skills only go so far


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[Sockethead]

Sure is convenient having them so close for that

[Newjack]

Yeah man if AA is right down the street that would be a really good option. Just being able to drive over and have them fix something is beyond cool

[Fasteddie222]

Alright so.....
I need some votes here.

Should I Supercharge or LSD?


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[ZHPizza]

Alright so.....
I need some votes here.

Should I Supercharge or LSD?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWell if you supercharge then you'll definitely want an LSD so...yes

[JPMo]

Im a purist so LSD. while awesome, a supercharger on the ZHP doesn't sit right with me

[Sockethead]

Well if you supercharge then you'll definitely want an LSD so...yes
I have to agree with this. I have both. If you're getting a good deal on the SC then go for that first.

[johnrando]

SC!

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[Reasoned1]

For what it's worth, based largely on what I hear, you may want a SC after an LSD, but you'll NEED a LSD after a SC.

[Fasteddie222]

The supercharger is a stage 1. I might get it for $2,000 which is a great deal! Active autowerke said $1500 for the install.

[Sockethead]

Go for it! At that price, it would be a crime to pass up. Centrifugal superchargers make most of their HP and torque higher up the RPM range than twin screw so an LSD may not needed as much...

[Reasoned1]

I wish I could do it.

[Fasteddie222]

Well guys quick update. Performance intake installed. Can’t really hear the difference but does look nice under the hood

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[johnrando]

Yes they do!

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[Fasteddie222]

Did something today. I think I’m going to put the stock headlights back on

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[Fasteddie222]

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[ZHPizza]

Dlux is love. Dlux is life.

I get over a year of beautiful blackness on my mirror trim/cowl/etc with Dlux.

Why are you going back to the OE headlights?

[san]

Dlux is love. Dlux is life.

I get over a year of beautiful blackness on my mirror trim/cowl/etc with Dlux.

Why are you going back to the OE headlights?

Is it better/easier to apply Dlux to the lower front bumper grill or spray paint?


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[ZHPizza]

Is it better/easier to apply Dlux to the lower front bumper grill or spray paint?


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Definitely easier to paint. I tried dlux on my lower grill and it didn't do enough to be worth the pain in the ass, but mine was like...white. Might work if it's not so far gone.

[Fasteddie222]

Well I went back to stock headlights and picked up another bmw since I was last in this forum!

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[Fasteddie222]

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[Fasteddie222]

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[Fasteddie222]

Which one looks better?

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[fredo]

I like the looks of OEM headlights. :thumbsup

[Johnmadd]

If you need some e30 parts hit me up, I have surplus of just about anything for e30's.

[PetesZ]

Did you ever look into a 3.64 LSD?

Makes it into a new car

You will spend more on tires though

[johnrando]

You got another BMW? Nice!

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