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704sw
10-19-2021, 05:28 PM
Forewarning: long intro to the main event. As some of you undoubtedly heard me mention before, I used to have a 2006 Mazda3 sedan I called Chloe. It was the only new car I ever have or ever will own. Bought on NYE, 12/31/2005, I loved that car in a way I’ll never feel for another car.

Chloe in 2011
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51609256679_9ebf9ddd28_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2mCwVYk)

Don’t get me wrong, I love my ZHP, and it’s leaps and bounds ahead of the Mz3 in every facet except fuel economy; but the Mazda was special to me. I was 18, I had a brand new car, and it coincided with a big turning point in my life. I took care of her like it was a faberge egg—there’s something about a new car where every single blemish you know happened on your watch. There’s no shrugging of shoulders and saying “well, it’s never going to be perfect.” So I aimed to keep it perfect, and I succeeded at that goal…until I had dogs. It was such a good, reliable, spry little car that punched above its weight. If it had a 6th gear I’m confident it would’ve broken the 40mpg barrier.

But unfortunately, 2,700lbs. and summer tires led to a cold demise. I was trying to get to my girlfriend’s place in the mountains and beat an incoming snowstorm, but only halfway there the storm had shifted and cut me off. It was the same distance to turn back or to soldier on, and the conditions were the same both directions. Just a few miles later the dilemma became moot. January 25th, 2013, with only 77k on the clock, Chloe lost traction and hit the concrete walls on both sides of an iced-over bridge. She was totaled with frame damage on both sides.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51608824528_617e79659b_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/gp/187920334@N06/5QX2sE)

My X3 replaced the Mazda. And while it has proven to be a very good car that fit my needs with 2 dogs who joined me on frequent road trips, nostalgic memories of Chloe never faded. This became even more true as the once ubiquitous sight of first gen. Mazda3s became rarer and rarer.

Fast forward to a couple weeks ago. An old coworker of mine texted me that she was needing to do some unplanned car shopping and asked if I’d help her. As we were talking she explained why: her old Mazda3 was dead, no crank. Fearing that, even if *this* repair was straightforward, she simply was less comfortable with an older car given her travel requirements for work, so she made the decision to move on from her old Mz3.

Here’s the hitch: it’s dead inside the parking garage of her apartment complex where traditional tow trucks cannot access. The unknown repair requirements of a 13 year old economy car in less than perfect condition, plus the logistics of vehicle recovery resulted in the car having basically zero trade-in value, and she asked if I’d be interested in adopting it. Despite not being a car person, she loved her car, and knew that I loved mine because I got doe-eyed every time she drove us to lunch. And she knew I was the best chance it has at avoiding the scrapyard and getting a chance at a second life in a loving home. This weekend I’m borrowing a friend’s truck and trailer and will be bringing it home. Here she currently is, stuck in this parking garage for a month now:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51609265634_66e98c7d6a_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/gp/187920334@N06/Y0Eq5V)

It’s a 2009 2.3L 5-door with 135k. My plan is to bring it back to roadworthiness initially, and slowly rehab her over time back to my personal standards. I haven’t even seen this car in-person in 3 years so I have no idea what to expect. If the plan is successful, it will replace the X3 as my daily driver. The X3 is (a) simply still in too good of cosmetic condition to be using it for the things I need an suv/wagon to do [lumber, muddy dogs, gardening stuff, etc.] especially with a tan interior, and (b) at 140k miles the list of things it needs replacing is getting long and spendy. The N52 isn’t as easy to work on as the M54 in my opinion, AWD makes everything harder to do, and quite frankly, the gas mileage is a ****ing joke. 21 highway downhill with a tailwind on premium from a crossover lol.

Updates to follow (I hope). I don’t actually expect any of y’all to be interested in an old economy car project, but I want to keep a personal record of it here because the Mazda3 forum is a friggin' ghost town these days. Thanks to anyone who actually reads this novel :blushing



Foolish last words: I’m hoping it’s just a fuel pump…

holyc0w
10-19-2021, 05:52 PM
Welcome back. I will definitely follow any updates.

I'll just drop this here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvPhVuPxvHU

san
10-19-2021, 06:50 PM
Welcome back!

Looking forward to seeing you bring it back to life, hopefully without much difficulty.


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Galapolis
10-19-2021, 07:27 PM
704sw? Posting on ZHPMafia? Is this real life?

There's actually a fairly big Mazda group in the Greensboro area. One of my friends has a highly modified newer 6 and is part of it.

t.er
10-19-2021, 07:46 PM
Love those little things! A bunch of friends had them and they were always super-fun to drive. Was cheaper than a Corolla or Civic at the time and had little quirks such as rain-sensing wipers.

Only caveat is the rust, but luckily you guys don't have to deal with that down there

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704sw
10-20-2021, 06:29 AM
Welcome back. I will definitely follow any updates.

I'll just drop this here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvPhVuPxvHU

Well that was poignant, and a nice dose of reality. Fortunately I think I’m less trying to replicate my fleeting youth, and more trying to capitalize on a great opportunity with something I think is a good fit for my needs…with a healthy side serving of nostalgia. I also want a modder back then, so there’s not much to recreate—the only 2 “mods” I think I did were an HID retrofit with all OE parts, and upgrading to the OE wheels from the GT trim.


Welcome back!

Looking forward to seeing you bring it back to life, hopefully without much difficulty.

Thanks! Well with an initial investment of basically zero I’m willing to endure a little bit of headache lol. From what she’s described it definitely sounds like a fuel delivery issue. The downside is these cars don’t have topside fuel tank access, so a pump swap isn’t as simple as on the E46.



704sw? Posting on ZHPMafia? Is this real life?

Is this just fantasy?

[QUOTE=Galapolis;610792]There's actually a fairly big Mazda group in the Greensboro area. One of my friends has a highly modified newer 6 and is part of it.

I’m guessing that’s a FB group of some sort? I’ve seen a couple pretty modded 6s around town, wonder if one was him.


Love those little things! A bunch of friends had them and they were always super-fun to drive. Was cheaper than a Corolla or Civic at the time and had little quirks such as rain-sensing wipers.

Only caveat is the rust, but luckily you guys don't have to deal with that down there

Down here I think we got slightly better equipped models as our base (even base had alloys, no steelies and hubcaps until late in production, all had power windows, etc.), so they were about the same price as Civics and Corollas, but they were way nicer interiors and exterior IMO. I looked at all 3 back then, and an RSX, and the Mazda was a much nicer car in every way. Heck, my ‘06 had an auto-dimming Homelink mirror and it was the 2nd lowest trim!

Galapolis
10-20-2021, 08:09 AM
I’m guessing that’s a FB group of some sort? I’ve seen a couple pretty modded 6s around town, wonder if one was him.

It's an iOS messenger group chat I believe. I can ask for details but I was told today that it's mostly for newer 6s and 3s, the first gen chat according to my friend is, and I quote, "pretty dead."

san
10-20-2021, 08:10 AM
BTW is it auto or manual?


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cakM3
10-20-2021, 08:27 AM
I have a soft spot for Mazdas... my first three cars were Mazdas [emoji6]


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704sw
10-20-2021, 08:42 AM
the first gen chat according to my friend is, and I quote, "pretty dead."

Lol yea sounds like the Mz3 forum. I’m going to have to buy a Haynes Manual because I’m sure a lot of the old forum posts were from before the Photobucket fiasco.


BTW is it auto or manual?

Auto, sadly.


I have a soft spot for Mazdas... my first three cars were Mazdas [emoji6]

My dad had an ‘83 626 for the first few years of my life, so I guess I was predisposed to Mazda fandom lol

BMWCurves
10-20-2021, 11:40 AM
God speed, bud! I look forward to the reanimation of this little Mazda.

cakM3
10-20-2021, 01:39 PM
My dad had an ‘83 626 for the first few years of my life, so I guess I was predisposed to Mazda fandom lol

I had three first gen RX-7s. Two GS's and one GSL-SE. I loved driving those cars, especially my GSL-SE... then I upgraded to my first Porsche, an '86 944 and my love affair for German cars started....

holyc0w
10-20-2021, 05:35 PM
My brother had a NA Miata and a Protege. Both were sold.

Now he has a turbocharged NC Miata used as a track car, though it's not as much in use these days. And he has a RX-8 with a Chevy 3.6 V6 swap for a daily that replaced a GTI that had VW type issues. His wife also got a CX-30 recently.

tlow98
10-21-2021, 09:31 AM
Agree about the n52 being more difficult to work on. It seems like everything they did there blocks stuff.

On the flip side it might be one of the most reliable modern German motors. They are tanks and super light!

704sw
10-21-2021, 12:53 PM
Agree about the n52 being more difficult to work on. It seems like everything they did there blocks stuff.

On the flip side it might be one of the most reliable modern German motors. They are tanks and super light!

Either we’re just incredibly unlucky, or warped valve covers are an issue on the N52. Between the X3 and my old man’s E60 I think we’ve had to replace 3 VCs. Oh and the E60 has horrible lifter tick, luckily the E83 doesn’t. It’s a buttery smooth driving engine though.

Will
10-22-2021, 03:40 PM
Congrats, on the new adoption! Thanks for taking us along with the revival. I'm looking forward to updates.

704sw
10-24-2021, 07:05 PM
She's home!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51625896987_ba8d3bd188_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/gp/187920334@N06/r3hY2Z)

First let me say parking garages were absolutely not designed for what we did today, but this deck was definitely one of the few decks I've been in that we could've pulled it off. Alas, we got it out of the deck without damaging any vehicles or structures. Thankfully we only encountered one other car driving in the garage and it was an ND Miata that had no issue squeezing past us. A couple of the city streets were tight with parallel parked cars and impatient drivers, but all things considered it wasn't as bad as I had mentally prepared myself for.

Bringing in a car from another country. Retrieving a dead car from an underground garage with a rusty ass Silverado and $35 Uhaul dolly. I'm starting to wonder if I'm destined to acquire cars in weird ways.


Foolish last words: I’m hoping it’s just a fuel pump…

Narrator: it wasn't the fuel pump.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51625896577_684cee6502_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2mE1dr8)

Yep, so that's the oil pan. And yep, that's a bigass hole in it. Sigh... My friend hit a big pot hole and didn't make the connection that it might've been the cause of her no-start.
Trying not to judge, trying not to judge, trying not to judge

There's no skid plates on this model under the engine, but there is a protective shield that saved the AC compressor/belt/pulley as evidenced by the big scuff on the edge of the shield.

Fortunately
(a) I'm in no rush on this thing
(b) an oil pan is $29 at LKQ once either a CX-7 or another 2.3L Mz3 hits the lot
(c) dropping the pan is an absolute joke compared to the E46
(d) there's no rigid gasket like the BMWs, just Permatex which I already have
(e) my friend was less than half a mile from her garage when it happened
(f) there was a shitload of oil on the ground once we pushed it from the parking spot, so it definitely didn't run dry
(g) she only tried cranking it once, so I'm hopeful the internals are okay

Anyway, that's the initial prognosis. The car is rough around the edges, but that's okay because this was never going to be a quick project.

san
10-24-2021, 07:44 PM
Ouch, that must’ve been one nasty hit. But glad it’s not too difficult of a job to it back up and running.


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johnrando
10-25-2021, 05:42 AM
+1

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704sw
10-26-2021, 05:29 PM
Well, I’m an idiot who can’t read a parts compatibility chart. The CX7 oil pan is the same as the Mazdaspeed 3, not the regular Mazda 3. It’s all the same 2.3L block, but the AC compressor is in a different location on the turbocharged cars so the pan has different contours. The Pull-a-Part one city over had a pair of 2.3L Mz3s in their yard so I ran over there this afternoon before they closed. One of them had a big scuff in the exact same place as the hole in my oil pan, so they’re definitely vulnerable. The other one had a grenaded engine but the pan was intact so I rolled the dice.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51632097293_224e5ed751_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/gp/187920334@N06/0fP857)

The exploded rod left lots of little metal fragments and took a small gouge out. I used a wire wheel to de-burr the gouge and it’s now nice and smooth. Didn’t get a picture of it cleaned up because my hands were gross, but I was impressed with the results.

When I dropped the crack pan I was pleasantly surprised at the cleanliness inside. My friend definitely stuck to the recommended oil change intervals.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51632097248_316f2f5208_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/gp/187920334@N06/2384R1)

And the bottom of the engine was equally clean.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51632520074_a80c85fa7f_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/gp/187920334@N06/Fx5c6c)

The new pan in installed, and I’m waiting 24hrs for the RTV to fully set. I’ll add oil tomorrow night, check for leaks on Thursday morning and give it the first test.

The car, however, is not quite as tidy as the inside of the engine.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51631870951_9f6efefc8b_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/gp/187920334@N06/p9i2E3)

I’ve never had to use degreaser on wheels before, but they were so filthy the grime literally gummed up when I tried running a soapy sponge across.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51632519994_a807005931_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/gp/187920334@N06/4xP422)

They eventually cleaned up fairly well, all things considered, but they’re all very curbed and have some paint chipping here and there. I’ll try to get them *more* presentable, and address the chips with materials I already have so they don’t get worse. But I’m not going to worry about anything major until these tires are shot…which could be a while based on the tread depth.

I have the majority of the car’s interior in my living room right now. I’m going to be cleaning everything as thoroughly as possible, shampooing the carpets and seats, etc.
I can’t even begin to speculate when was the last time this car saw a vacuum…