Eurocharged Performance Tuning Thread

[TigerTater]

Seth have you installed one of these controllers before on e46? I was doing some more searching around and I believe the reason that the ecu keeps throwing the code is bc since the rear sensors are turned off there is no way for the ecu to differentiate between them (0 mv)..hence it thinks they are swapped and will not allow me to become "ready"


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[UdubBadger]

No I haven't but I hear there is some wiring involved.

Try emailing Jerry and make sure there isn't something else he can't do now that you think you have it pinpointed.

Jerry@eurocharged.com

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[UdubBadger]

Bump for newer members looking for tuning info. :)

[Avetiso]

Is this tune worthwhile on the M?

[UdubBadger]

Oh yeah... Pushes red line up too ;)

[UdubBadger]

I still need to do mine. Lol

[danewilson77]

Seth,

Will tuning be available at TimmayFest in June 2015?

[UdubBadger]

As long as myself or Jake is in attendance, yes Sir.

[danewilson77]

Ok. Let me know when it's confirmed one of you two will be there.

"No flamesuit required"

[UdubBadger]

I'd say it's 99.8% likely unless something critical comes up.

[UdubBadger]

Finally getting around to tuning my M3 today. Lol

[derbo]

Finally getting around to tuning my M3 today. Lol

Dyno-tuning? Let us know how the numbers goes :)

[UdubBadger]

Nah I wish. Just mygenius

[UdubBadger]

Before I say this I just want you guys to remember I make $0 from supplying EC tuning to you guys. I do it because I believe they are true to their word and commitment of excellence and are upstanding guys.

This tune is smooth as butter and my butt dyno was VERY pleased with the pulls I did after uploading the tune in the M3. I forgot how much more fun a tune car acts.

Too bad my winters go on tomorrow lol

[johnrando]

:like

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[Pip]

Good bump. I might need two of these, but in all honesty I think the new DD needs it more. Although the point of the DD was not to mod.

[UdubBadger]

You know that benz is the specialty though. ;)

Why not enjoy driving it?

[Pip]

You know that benz is the specialty though. ;)

Why not enjoy driving it?

True which is why I was looking at Eurocharged. I know how well they transform the auto driving experience after I had the tune on my auto ZHP.

[UdubBadger]

Update:

Just a heads up for anyone looking to run headers and considering a tune with it.

ZHP tuning to increase performance and code out the SES light to be "emissions ready" is $450! Just confirmed with Phil that we are offering this now without any sort of group buy.

[wertyu78]

Update:

Just a heads up for anyone looking to run headers and considering a tune with it.

ZHP tuning to increase performance and code out the SES light to be "emissions ready" is $450! Just confirmed with Phil that we are offering this now without any sort of group buy.

Sweet. Any dyno graphs???

[TigerTater]

Update:

Just a heads up for anyone looking to run headers and considering a tune with it.

ZHP tuning to increase performance and code out the SES light to be "emissions ready" is $450! Just confirmed with Phil that we are offering this now without any sort of group buy.

Emissions ready? Like just no CEL, or complete green/ready of all readiness codes including cat heater O2 sensors etc?

[wertyu78]

Emissions ready? Like just no CEL, or complete green/ready of all readiness codes including cat heater O2 sensors etc?

Great question - would love to know this as well. Can I opt to have the SAP coded out as well?

I'm ready for a tune. The car is boring again.

[TigerTater]

I tried for sap tune and block off. No such luck on my tune. Had to reinstall it with headers.

[UdubBadger]

Sent a message to Phil for confirmation.

[UdubBadger]

Sweet. Any dyno graphs???

Never lol.


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[wertyu78]

Never lol.


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Y porque no?

[UdubBadger]

They don't spend the money/time on the lower models for some reason. Spread too thin most likely, they do about 1500 models of euro/exotics.


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[wertyu78]

They don't spend the money/time on the lower models for some reason. Spread too thin most likely, they do about 1500 models of euro/exotics.


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Totally makes sense - cater to the market that delivers more return, I'd do the same. However, where do they get their numbers (on the zhp tune?). Also, I've heard great things about the low to mid range punch on their tunes, would love to see that curve.

[GE Geoff]

Totally makes sense - cater to the market that delivers more return, I'd do the same. However, where do they get their numbers (on the zhp tune?). Also, I've heard great things about the low to mid range punch on their tunes, would love to see that curve.

Ditto! I mean, a butt dyno is pretty accurate but being an OCD engineer forces me to pay attention to Data. :)


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[TigerTater]

Come to Louisiana and I'll ride you around and show you the tune! :shifty

[wertyu78]

Come to Louisiana and I'll ride you around and show you the tune! :shifty


If only it were that easy! Throw it on some rollers.... post the graph!

[wertyu78]

Ditto! I mean, a butt dyno is pretty accurate but being an OCD engineer forces me to pay attention to Data. :)


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Glad I'm not alone!

[UdubBadger]

Totally makes sense - cater to the market that delivers more return, I'd do the same. However, where do they get their numbers (on the zhp tune?). Also, I've heard great things about the low to mid range punch on their tunes, would love to see that curve.

R&D from parent company in Europe mostly. They have dyno'd all the cars but since tuning is custom on our end there is always a +/- range on every tune regardless. Gas is different out there, some engines are set up differently. I think the best indicator is 1. trust the company you work with no matter who is it and 2. Talk to the people brave enough to run the 1st few tunes on that car and see what they think. In the real world would you rather make 5 more HP than someone else on the boards or know you have some real world gains you can feel but know the safety of the car was the #1 priority from the creator.

For example - we don't do a lot of N54 business compared the JB4, Proceed and Cobb. They were all making about 10-20 HP more than us initially... great on paper but we were basically making the same gains of 45-55hp stage 1 compared to their 55-65hp stage one, but doing it with 1.5-2lbs of less boost (which means less wear on the turbos) for safety of the car. :dunno thats why I stuck behind these guys for so long, I know Jerry understands the bigger picture of tuning. That being said, they are pushing 575hp out of or F80 M3 with DP's... so, it's not like they can't make big power too. ;)


In the end regarding the ZHP I can tell you first hand the tune with a good cat back and intake is a lot of fun and maybe not felt as much as an N54 gain but it's there. With headers alone the car feels good but with the maximized power from the tune with it - it's almost a different car. Ball parking it on a graph... 15-20 headers alone, 25-32ish with the tune. But don't forget the tune does more than make peak HP, throttle is better, fans/cooling is more efficient, sometimes the 4k dip shrinks... car feels very different than just bolting on some headers.

[Johnmadd]

R&D from parent company in Europe mostly. They have dyno'd all the cars but since tuning is custom on our end there is always a +/- range on every tune regardless. Gas is different out there, some engines are set up differently. I think the best indicator is 1. trust the company you work with no matter who is it and 2. Talk to the people brave enough to run the 1st few tunes on that car and see what they think. In the real world would you rather make 5 more HP than someone else on the boards or know you have some real world gains you can feel but know the safety of the car was the #1 priority from the creator.

For example - we don't do a lot of N54 business compared the JB4, Proceed and Cobb. They were all making about 10-20 HP more than us initially... great on paper but we were basically making the same gains of 45-55hp stage 1 compared to their 55-65hp stage one, but doing it with 1.5-2lbs of less boost (which means less wear on the turbos) for safety of the car. :dunno thats why I stuck behind these guys for so long, I know Jerry understands the bigger picture of tuning. That being said, they are pushing 575hp out of or F80 M3 with DP's... so, it's not like they can't make big power too. ;)


In the end regarding the ZHP I can tell you first hand the tune with a good cat back and intake is a lot of fun and maybe not felt as much as an N54 gain but it's there. With headers alone the car feels good but with the maximized power from the tune with it - it's almost a different car. Ball parking it on a graph... 15-20 headers alone, 25-32ish with the tune. But don't forget the tune does more than make peak HP, throttle is better, fans/cooling is more efficient, sometimes the 4k dip shrinks... car feels very different than just bolting on some headers.

I'm just about sold. This really sounds awesome, I just need to install my headers and buy catback... could take a while.

[ryankokesh]

I'm just about sold. This really sounds awesome, I just need to install my headers and buy catback... could take a while.

+1

[Pip]

I can attest to intake, catback and tune compared to just tune. I definitely think the tune was worth it from an auto perspective.

[Johnmadd]

I really think cai is over rated, the exhaust system is where you get the bang for the bucks... ($)

[UdubBadger]

Agreed but you should be running at least an AFe drop in to maximize the effects of the tune. A lot of times I recommend that over a cai actually.


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[TigerTater]

I agree with the drop in. That's what I run. Stock air box is a solid performer.

[UdubBadger]

Bump.

I know a few people have gotten tuned recently - would love to hear some thoughts on how they feel about the process, the tune and EC service.


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[CarbonZHP]

Liking the idea of this. Need to start thinking about a tune with my KN in and magnaflow coming in soon

[UdubBadger]

:like


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[orange260z]

Hey all,

I am looking to improve the throttle response and shift quality on my 2005 M-sport (so no ZHP cams or associated DME tweaks). My only powertrain mod is an AFE Stage Pro5R 1 intake. Can anyone comment on the impact of the Eurocharged tune on throttle response, shift quality & speed, power, and fuel economy on the non-ZHP 330 cars?

This has been the area of biggest disappointment with this car relative to the '06 E90 330i I had with the 6 speed Steptronic - that was a very responsive, quick-shifting transmission. The 5 speed shifts more sluggishly than our Suburban or my former Hyundai Veracruz, neither of which has any sporting intentions!

[johnrando]

I know my AA tune improved all of those but the throttle response... and Euro worked on the AA tune (in some way, shape or fashion. Seth could tell you more). Euro says they address throttle response too. So, at the mafia price, I'd say go for it. I was not familiar with them when I got mine, so the AA tune plus a Sprint Booster did it for me. Today, I'd probably just do a Euro.

CAVEAT - my only experience and discussions were for ZHP, but I can't imagine they couldn't improve a non ZHP.

[Pip]

Had a ZHP when I had the Eurocharged tune but it helped with throttle response and shifting. The car felt like it knew which gears to be in better when in auto mode and was more fun to drive in manual mode. I wouldn't say that the tune changed the quickness of shifts but it did change the feel of the car.

[UdubBadger]

Improvements are of same caliber on non ZHP as they are on the ZHP or even M cars.


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[ELCID86]

Pedal box for throttle response. ??


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[orange260z]

Seth, I spoke with Eurocharged in Toronto today and got this as a response regarding the transmission tune:

Ian, I (personally) spoke with the Eurocharged head tuner in the U.S. and we definitely do NOT offer a transmission tune for your ZF automatic 330i E46. I'd love to say yes and get your business, but then i'd be lying. If you still want to experience our engine tune, feel free to book an appointment with us! I'll leave you with some image of our shop and the work we do.

__________________________________________________ _____
Randy Sparre
Product Specialist
Eurocharged Performance
300 Supertest Rd #30
Toronto, ON M3J 2M2


I'm a little confused, because that seems to be contrary to everything discussed here! Could you please clarify?

I am not looking for a standalone transmission tune, but the transmission changes would be a driver behind getting the engine tune if it is part of the package.

Thanks!!

[UdubBadger]

It's not a trans tune - that's totally different and what they do on Benzs (offer a TcU only tune on the Benz models).

It's just throttle remapping and engine tuning that changes the throttle response and way the trans works.

Just tell them you want standard tuning and it will all be addressed (7 day money back policy still holds plus free retuning/tweaking for life).

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[johnrando]

Dinan has s/w that is supposed to improve shifting, but in my experience, you only feel it when driving hard.

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[UdubBadger]

Correct however all they are doing it putting a 1/2 tune on your car. It's not rocket science, no tuner out there is doing something the others CANT do, it's just a matter of who can do it a little better than the others. Who has gone into the depths of coding and tweaked as much of the process to get the most efficient engine (thus raise HP) and pull as much power out as possible (raise TQ) at the same time. The rest is really just coding things to be put in place to do their jobs to the liking of the user.


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[duhmiko]

Pedal box for throttle response. ??


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+1 All you need (as far as adjustable throttle response).

[UdubBadger]

tuning (ours at least) does the same thing as a pedal box but adds power to the car at the same time.

[trancenation]

Are there any ongoing promotions for a eurocharged tune at the moment?

[Pip]

Are there any ongoing promotions for a eurocharged tune at the moment?

Yea like send me a cable so I don't have to go to San Francisco lol.

[TWong1200]

Yea like send me a cable so I don't have to go to San Francisco lol.

At least you're in Sac and closer to Daly City. We have no dealers in SoCal!

[Pip]

At least you're in Sac and closer to Daly City. We have no dealers in SoCal!

True. Was kidding about the cable as well considering it's $400 or something like that. Road trip to SF?

[UdubBadger]

On going promotion has been what it's always been... I get you gents basically the lowest price EC tunes ANYTHING for because I kinda like you guys...

Most of you anyway. ;)


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[TWong1200]

True. Was kidding about the cable as well considering it's $400 or something like that. Road trip to SF?
Ha! I'd rather just take DME out and ship it to them. I'm waiting for a deal!

[TWong1200]

On going promotion has been what it's always been... I get you gents basically the lowest price EC tunes ANYTHING for because I kinda like you guys...

Most of you anyway. ;)


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And what's the price? Sorry if I missed it!

[UdubBadger]

Ha! I'd rather just take DME out and ship it to them. I'm waiting for a deal!

Didn't realize this wasn't a deal already


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[UdubBadger]

And what's the price? Sorry if I missed it!

Prices are via PM only.


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[TWong1200]

PM Sent!

[UdubBadger]

PM Sent!

Replied bud. Ignore the part about me asking why you never PMd me back. Wrong Tony. Lol


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[Taliben]

PM'd about a tune

[UdubBadger]

PM'd about a tune

Make sure you're PMing me not the EC account that I never check.


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[ELCID86]

Make sure you're PMing me not the EC account that I never check.


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Delete it? Or auto reply?


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[UdubBadger]

Honestly just too lazy to log in and out of accounts.

Most people know to talk to me anyway so it hasn't been a problem


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[TheFinanceGuy]

So I should have PM'ed the EC account and not you?




:asshat



Thanks again for the info.

[UdubBadger]

Rofl just making sure people know where to find me/the info on the tune ;)


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[NorCal-Dimitri]

Do you guys ever plan on doing an E36 M3 tune?

[UdubBadger]

We tune them already


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[johnrando]

Yup, we at the mafia have no problem tuning something or someone up. :biggrin

[NorCal-Dimitri]

We tune them already


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Hmm, I didn't see that on your website when I was looking earlier.

[UdubBadger]

Too many cars to actually list. If it's Euro and has OBDII we can tune it


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[FL116]

Seth, do you still work with Eurocharged? If so, I will send you a PM with some questions

[UdubBadger]

I work with them, not for them - I am not an employee but I help with these forum sales.

Short answer yes


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[Damian]

At least you're in Sac and closer to Daly City. We have no dealers in SoCal!
No love for SoCal? 💔

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[UdubBadger]

Sorry. Talk to your local shop about becoming a vendor!


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[gammagoblin]

Dealer-finder has been no worky for me last few days, anybody else? http://www.eurocharged.com/storelocator/index/index/
It's not me, it's you

[UdubBadger]

Dealer-finder has been no worky for me last few days, anybody else? http://www.eurocharged.com/storelocator/index/index/
It's not me, it's you

Site got updated recently so that web address could be wrong.

Try going the long way though the main page.


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[gammagoblin]

Same URL as going into eurocharged.com and navigating to the dealer locator. Is this working for anyone else? If so post your browser and URL please...

[UdubBadger]

The page is there but yeah the search isn't working. I'll alert them.

In the meantime where are you looking for, I can get you the info.


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[gammagoblin]

Thanks! NYC area, whatever is closest to Manhattan, or possibly long island.

[UdubBadger]

212 motoring in Brooklyn is likely the closest for you. There are a few in Jersey also. Prime Motoring in East Rutherford and Drive Autoworks in Lyndhurst.


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[gammagoblin]

Ah, that's perfect - appreciate it :thumbsup

[UdubBadger]

Just letting you all know of some recent changes.

22679

[danewilson77]

Interesting. Thanks for the share.

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[UdubBadger]

A few bad eggs ruined it for everyone but $35 retunes is still cheapest you'll find out there :thumbsup


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[UdubBadger]

Lots of newbs around here.

Bumping this thread so they know to PM me for the best Eurocharged pricing on tunes, including catless headers with O2 coding so your car looks like a BMW, not a Christmas tree (or Menorah for all of you fellow Hebs out there).

-Seth

[UdubBadger]

FYI the forum price has gone up to $330

[TWong1200]

FYI the forum price has gone up to $330

Seth - Has EC been able to resolve the 4K dip on ZHPs that have this pre-existing condition?


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[UdubBadger]

Partially yes, makes it much less apparent but still a small "divot" rather than dip... but really the best fix for that is still having the DME *(not DISA) reprogrammed.


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[TWong1200]

Partially yes, makes it much less apparent but still a small "divot" rather than dip... but really the best fix for that is still having the DISA reprogrammed.


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Having the DISA reprogrammed? I've yet to hear that term. Who can do this? Is this different from getting my DME updated, which i've done once already. It relieved my 2800RPM hesitation and my 4k dip (initially). But, the 4k dip eventually returned. I've already rebuilt my DISA with a GAS unit. No change.

[TheFinanceGuy]

Partially yes, makes it much less apparent but still a small "divot" rather than dip... but really the best fix for that is still having the DISA reprogrammed.


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I assume you mean DME reprogrammed...




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[autom3otives]

Seth,

Sent a PM your way regarding pricing. Hoping to get in on a tune asap as I'll be installing catless headers this weekend!

[UdubBadger]

I assume you mean DME reprogrammed...




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That was a weird typo sorry.


Ok so having the DME (made sure that didn't autocorrect on my phone lol) sent to NJ BMW HQ was how my Zhp got rid of the dip. Tuning is done by modification of the file on your car so if it hasn't been reprogrammed not much can be done as we aren't the engineers so only so much we can do.

It definitely HELPS it but likely won't fully cure it.


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[FL116]

Seth, is the forum price still $330? And does the tune include getting rid of the CEL for aftermarket headers?

[UdubBadger]

$330
CEL coding for headers is additional.


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[FL116]

$330
CEL coding for headers is additional.


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Can you PM me pricing?