Beisan VANOS Seals - Brand New

[fauchpj]

Got these last week but I'm going to go the drvanos route.

They are $60 plus $5 shipping from Beisan.

I will let them go for $60 shipped - saves you 5 bucks.

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[johnrando]

Curious why you decided to go Dr V.?

[danewilson77]

Curious why you decided to go Dr V.?

I bet he didn't want to....or did not have time to do work on vanos unit?

[fauchpj]

Bingo. I would rather swap out the parts for peace of mind. Dr. Vanos also includes new bearings.

[NorCalZman]

for my own education for the day when (not if apparently) I need VANOS work: Beisan seals for a specific problem that might pop up, but its just the seals you replace for it. Dr. Vanos is a whole rebuild, bearings, seals, etc but upgraded and for cars that have the bad rattle problem. do I have it right? :)

[Hermes]

Both kits do the same thing, Beisan sells you the parts to fix yours (the rattle kit is a separate item), Dr Vanos sells you a whole VANOS. Beisan uses upgraded seals, Dr Vanos does not.

[danewilson77]

Both kits do the same thing, Beisan sells you the parts to fix yours (the rattle kit is a separate item), Dr Vanos sells you a whole VANOS. Beisan uses upgraded seals, Dr Vanos does not.

I think Dr. Vanos does use upgraded seals.

[fauchpj]

I think Dr. Vanos does use upgraded seals.

They do.

From their site:
Each dual vanos is fully rebuilt using modified bearings along with high-performance Viton O-rings and Teflon seals that will not only eliminate the vanos rattle, but also restore lost power due to worn out internals. Our vanos units will stand up to more abuse than the stock units, and will last the life of the car.

[danewilson77]

They do.

From their site:
Each dual vanos is fully rebuilt using modified bearings along with high-performance Viton O-rings and Teflon seals that will not only eliminate the vanos rattle, but also restore lost power due to worn out internals. Our vanos units will stand up to more abuse than the stock units, and will last the life of the car.

What's funny is that, in my experience.....the O-rings, nor the teflon seals(?) are what cause the rattle. It's the oversized spacers.

[fauchpj]

What's funny is that, in my experience.....the O-rings, nor the teflon seals(?) are what cause the rattle. It's the oversized spacers.

I thought it was the bearings that cause the rattle.
Unless that is what you are referring to as spacers.

[danewilson77]

No. There are pin bearings and spacers.

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Maintenance%20and%20Misc/image018.jpg

[NorCalZman]

but will the Dr. Vanos unit do what is advertised and permanantely stop the rattle? He can say the metal was treated with unicorn farts as long as the end result is the same (fixed and better than OE quality) :)

[johnrando]

but will the Dr. Vanos unit do what is advertised and permanantely stop the rattle? He can say the metal was treated with unicorn farts as long as the end result is the same (fixed and better than OE quality) :)

:rofl. I've always wondered the same... does it actually have what's needed to not have the rattle?

[kayger12]

Yes. The Dr. Vanos has the new bearing spacers that will eliminate the rattle.

Beisan provides you with the correct spacers that you install yourself.

[zj96sc]

I directly asked Dr. Vanos what differentiated their end product from an oem vanos rebuilt with seals and bearing spacers and they basically said they clean the vanos. put the direct quote in my projects thread.

Both methods accomplish the same thing - fresh seals for accurate cam control (returns lost power) and slightly thinner bearing cups (to eliminate the rattle). With Dr vanos you just pay for their labor.

I waffled between the two but ultimately did beisan and am extremely glad i did - very doable and honestly a quite enjoyable (if oily) diy...and obviously much mo cheepa.

[danewilson77]

I directly asked Dr. Vanos what differentiated their end product from an oem vanos rebuilt with seals and bearing spacers and they basically said they clean the vanos. put the direct quote in my projects thread.

Both methods accomplish the same thing - fresh seals for accurate cam control (returns lost power) and slightly thinner bearing cups (to eliminate the rattle). With Dr vanos you just pay for their labor.

I waffled between the two but ultimately did beisan and am extremely glad i did - very doable and honestly a quite enjoyable (if oily) diy...and obviously much mo cheepa.

+ 1

Thanks zj

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