Locking/Unlocking Chime

[das boots]

Wondering if our ZHPs come with the 'Beep' chime when we lock or unlock our vehicles. My E39 came with it. Any ideas? Thanks.

[Washburn]

I think the key has to be programmed for it. Mine doesn't do the beep, but I think you can get it programmed at the dealer

[JupiterBMW]

+1 for this answer. I don't always know if it locks, and I have to turn around and see if the corner lights blink... Of course, they only blink once if it does lock. Would be nice to know if it has the beep like the newer BMWs...

[MrMaico]

Mine does it.....once for lock and twice for unlock. Kind of a beep but it's not the cars horn like some vehicles. I also have the factory alarm, don't know if that makes a difference or not.

[imola red zhp]

Does it have to be programmed at the dealer?? Or can we do it.

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[danewilson77]

It has to be part of the security system.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1516132&highlight=beep

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[Hermes]

Mine does it.....once for lock and twice for unlock. Kind of a beep but it's not the cars horn like some vehicles. I also have the factory alarm, don't know if that makes a difference or not.

Mine chirps the same way. IIRC it can be coded on or off (the flashes too)

[das boots]

DW.....I already have my flashing of lights when I lock & unlock. Do you still have the schematics for the hook up? BTW, I have a factory horn alarm on my parts shed. Would that work?

[MrMaico]

Mine chirps the same way. IIRC it can be coded on or off (the flashes too)

Do you have the factory alarm JP? I wonder what actually makes the chirp? Is it something separate from the siren or is it a sound the siren can make?

[derbo]

an additional siren that comes with the factory alarm system is what makes the chirps.

[ryankokesh]

The alarm itself makes the chirp, if I recall correctly. If your car is programmed to blink, it's pretty easy to get a piezo at your local radio shack and wire it up to chirp even without the alarm package. Check my sig, there might be a link to the DIY. (I'm on my phone and I don't remember of I linked it or not....)


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[danewilson77]

Drawing/Pic added to post #6.

[Crestwood1001]

You have to have the factory alarm, there is a way to wire in a small siren that sounds similar but it still has to be programmed to tell the car to send the power to that wire.

[das boots]

The alarm itself makes the chirp, if I recall correctly. If your car is programmed to blink, it's pretty easy to get a piezo at your local radio shack and wire it up to chirp even without the alarm package. Check my sig, there might be a link to the DIY. (I'm on my phone and I don't remember of I linked it or not....)


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Thanks Ryan. I got it. Looks pretty simple enough. Located my alarm horn. Set it aside. Will test on the loudness.

[danewilson77]

You have to have the factory alarm, there is a way to wire in a small siren that sounds similar but it still has to be programmed to tell the car to send the power to that wire.

DIY is in post 6

[Crestwood1001]

You still have to have it programed if the car does not already flash its lights....

[das boots]

DIY is in post 6

Wouldn't the wires come off from the connector after sticking it in? What is holding the wires in place when stuck inside the female connector? What size wire gauge will fit on that plug?

[danewilson77]

Wouldn't the wires come off from the connector after sticking it in? What is holding the wires in place when stuck inside the female connector? What size wire gauge will fit on that plug?

I used electrical tape to secure everything in place. The wires that came with the buzzer I purchased were a good size for insertion.

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[das boots]

Okee Dokee....

[Hermes]

Do you have the factory alarm JP? I wonder what actually makes the chirp? Is it something separate from the siren or is it a sound the siren can make?

As far as I know I DON'T have the factory alarm but my car still chirps and flashes when I press the buttons

[Crestwood1001]

^Some cars have it from the factory

[JupiterBMW]

So I have flashes on lock/unlock and clown nose blinks while locked. I have factory alarm? I can haz factory chirp?

[johnrando]

So I have flashes on lock/unlock and clown nose blinks while locked. I have factory alarm? I can haz factory chirp?

I have the same thing Jupiter but I don't have the factory alarm.

[ryankokesh]

So I have flashes on lock/unlock and clown nose blinks while locked. I have factory alarm? I can haz factory chirp?

Yup, someone can code it "on" for you. I'm know there are others here that have a compy set up for it, but off the top of my head I can only think of BP and myself. Obviously you'd want someone in Florida though, lol.

[das boots]

I just got done with the install of the chirp buzzer from Radio Shack. I got the 102db. I sort of did something different on this install. I do not know if some of you did the same. But I removed the access panel divider into the fan housing. Two torx screws and a twist lock. That was where is I installed the buzzer after I cleaned and blow down the inside of the cavity so the double back tape would adhere better. I also stripped back 1/8" more from the exposed end of the leads. The wires would go deeper inside the connector. Still loud enough even though the buzzer is enclosed inside away from the dirt and engine heat. I was moving so fast that I was not able to take any photos......

[JupiterBMW]

Yup, someone can code it "on" for you. I'm know there are others here that have a compy set up for it, but off the top of my head I can only think of BP and myself. Obviously you'd want someone in Florida though, lol.

Hmm, interesting. Can you give more info on the coding? How to tell if I have factory alarm or the clown nose just blinks for the hell of it?? I'm a little confused now.

This all being said... I have an idea. Someone needs to develop a website that has a database of all cars ever sold. When the car is sold new, the original window sticker gets scanned in and stored by VIN. This way when you buy an 8 year old used car, you can refer back to see every last detail on the car. :biggrin

[ryankokesh]

See that little dome thing in the middle of the roof, kinda above your head? Squeeze the sides and pull it down. If there's something in there you have an alarm, but if you just see a wire hanging out there's no alarm.

Awesome website idea... if you could get good buy-in it'd be incredibly useful!

[ryankokesh]

Or I bet you could just lock the doors with the windows down and open it from the inside... shouldn't that make the alarm go off?

[llll1l1ll]

I was under the impression that the clown nose and light blinking are mere deterrents, and that you need the actual alarm system installed in order to hear the beep.

[Washburn]

^^^ That's what I thought...and I think that's right.
I also have the clown blink but no REAL alarm, but no chirp...

[JupiterBMW]

Thanks for the info Ryan.. I'll look into it and report back!

[kakashi169]

IMO, the high pitched chime cheapens the car...unless its a horn which to me sounds more solid and masculine.

[328ioc]

I have been trying to find a used alarm siren forever. But alas I have found none.

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[johnrando]

Not what you're looking for, but my locks lock with a very distinctive thump, plus the lights flash. I can definitely tell when the car locks/unlocks. No chime necessary for me. Wondering if yours aren't that loud or you just want more confirmation?

[Washburn]

I also think the car locks with a pretty good thump, BUT it's possible that the OP is looking for something for those situations where you've walked some distance from the car and are not sure if you locked or not? the 'thunk' may not be loud enough for that situation...
on the other hand, the turn signals flashing can be seen from pretty far....

[danewilson77]

I also think the car locks with a pretty good thump, BUT it's possible that the OP is looking for something for those situations where you've walked some distance from the car and are not sure if you locked or not? the 'thunk' may not be loud enough for that situation...
on the other hand, the turn signals flashing can be seen from pretty far....

@ most, from what I've seen/heard, range is a mere 40' anyways.

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[llll1l1ll]

If you press the key against your sternum and then point your hand at the car, you can get a better signal and sometimes farther distance.

Plus it makes you look goofy.

[johnrando]

I always thought it was under the throat.

[das boots]

If you press the key against your sternum and then point your hand at the car, you can get a better signal and sometimes farther distance.

Plus it makes you look goofy.

Hmmm...I tried it on the way home from work at the parking lot. Didn't work.

[llll1l1ll]

Hmm... Usually works for me.

[Meric]

Yesterday I noticed that toyota's sounds the same when lock/unlock.. -.-

[jayjay_dee]

Hmm... Usually works for me.

same with me...

[das boots]

Hmm... Usually works for me.

Then I must have a lead-lined sternum...LOL. Or pointing the key to my sternum the wrong way????

[JupiterBMW]

Yesterday I noticed that toyota's sounds the same when lock/unlock.. -.-

Yeah, all Toyota's and Lexus' all sound the same... All of them... Our 97 Lexus sounded the same as brand new ones...

So, that overhead trim piece in the car, I pulled it down and have nothing but a plug in there. So I guess I don't have factory alarm...? Anyone know what I need to get it functioning? I'm guessing in there is the entry sensor? And a siren? What else?

[SoCalZman]

Yeah, all Toyota's and Lexus' all sound the same... All of them... Our 97 Lexus sounded the same as brand new ones...

So, that overhead trim piece in the car, I pulled it down and have nothing but a plug in there. So I guess I don't have factory alarm...? Anyone know what I need to get it functioning? I'm guessing in there is the entry sensor? And a siren? What else?

Isnt that overhead trim piece for the bluetooth mic? I know its right up around there. I was going to be putting bluetooth in my car in the next few months.

[JupiterBMW]

Antone- I might be wrong but I think the Bluetooth mic is in the trim piece where the sunroof buttons are. The piece I'm talking about is just behind the front seat headrests....

[MrMaico]

I always thought it was under the throat.

+1......I just used it today, I'd bet I was close to 100 feet away.

[Crestwood1001]

Yeah, all Toyota's and Lexus' all sound the same... All of them... Our 97 Lexus sounded the same as brand new ones...

So, that overhead trim piece in the car, I pulled it down and have nothing but a plug in there. So I guess I don't have factory alarm...? Anyone know what I need to get it functioning? I'm guessing in there is the entry sensor? And a siren? What else?
There are a few of the kits for sale right now over on e46f, they go for around 175$, includes the siren and mount, over head motion sensor, and tilt sensor and one bolt and washer for the tilt sensor. Other then that the install is easy and around an hour. Worst part is you have to get it activated at the dealer, or by someone who can code these cars!

[das boots]

+1......I just used it today, I'd bet I was close to 100 feet away.

Let me try this.....

[Washburn]

I usually point the key fob at my crotch. works great.






j/k

[das boots]

+1......I just used it today, I'd bet I was close to 100 feet away.

Oh yeah...it works right on the base of the throat.

[llll1l1ll]

My girlfriend thinks I'm going to get cancer because I keep using my body as an antenna.

[WOLFN8TR]

Mine does it.....once for lock and twice for unlock. Kind of a beep but it's not the cars horn like some vehicles. I also have the factory alarm, don't know if that makes a difference or not.

Mine use to Beep once when armed and twice for Disarmed and the lights would flash and the Clown nose would blink.
For some reason it does not beep once when armed now only the lights blink. Any ideas??

Dane it started doing this when I got your keychain. Weird.

The "under the chin" method does extend the range of the remote. Been doing this for years. My buddy use to install alarms and he swore by it.

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[MrMaico]

Mine use to Beep once when armed and twice for Disarmed and the lights would flash and the Clown nose would blink.
For some reason it does not beep once when armed now only the lights blink. Any ideas??

Dane it started doing this when I got your keychain. Weird.

The "under the chin" method does extend the range of the remote. Been doing this for years. My buddy use to install alarms and he swore by it.

Bayerische-Motoren-Werke

A lot of times when I get home and park the car in the garage and temps are high like they have been lately I will open the hood to let the heat escape easier. I've noticed that when I lock the doors with the hood open I don't get the beep. Later on when I do close the hood (doors locked, alarm armed) then it will do the single beep.

Anything changed recently with your underhood switch? Not making contact for some reason?

[WOLFN8TR]

A lot of times when I get home and park the car in the garage and temps are high like they have been lately I will open the hood to let the heat escape easier. I've noticed that when I lock the doors with the hood open I don't get the beep. Later on when I do close the hood (doors locked, alarm armed) then it will do the single beep.

Anything changed recently with your underhood switch? Not making contact for some reason?


It's funny you say that. Lately it's been so hot here when I pull in the garage I open the hood and set a floor fan in front of the car to help cool it down. We have had 115 degree days last week which is brutal. Also I took the car to the car wash yesterday and apparently I got the hood sensor wet. Glad you mentioned that. Messed with it and got it working again! Awesome...

Thanks!

[MrMaico]

It's funny you say that. Lately it's been so hot here when I pull in the garage I open the hood and set a floor fan in front of the car to help cool it down. We have had 115 degree days last week which is brutal. Also I took the car to the car wash yesterday and apparently I got the hood sensor wet. Glad you mentioned that. Messed with it and got it working again! Awesome...

Thanks!

Great! At least it was an easy fix. I think if we got temps like that I would be breaking out the fan too! Hot one here today though.....102 right now and 98 in Vegas. Glad the ZHP is home sleeping in the garage.

I have to think it helps to let the heat out like that. Easier on vacuum lines, cooling and intake hoses, even the paint on the hood. I saw an 04 330Xi in a local car lot the other day and the clear coat is peeling off the center of the hood.

I bought a set of intake hoses when I bought my car after reading all the forums about leaks in them. They're still sitting in a bag at home almost 3 years later.

[das boots]

I make it a point always pop open the hood on all of the horses in my corral everytime they get home to cool down the engine until warm to touch. Save the deterioration of the rubber and plastic parts inside the engine bay. Some folks thinks I'm crazy for doing this.....

[webster]

i'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what part of your skin you touch the metal part of the key to...the electro-static charge should aid the function of the key remote anywhere on your body, as long as you're body is grounded. i usually just touch the key to the palm of my other hand, i mean unless you guys like looking goofy in the parking lot poking your neck or belly with the key...LOL

[MrMaico]

i'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what part of your skin you touch the metal part of the key to...the electro-static charge should aid the function of the key remote anywhere on your body, as long as you're body is grounded. i usually just touch the key to the palm of my other hand, i mean unless you guys like looking goofy in the parking lot poking your neck or belly with the key...LOL

Of course, that's the whole point......you have to lean forward while you extend one leg straight out behind you, point left index finger toward Uranus and touch the key to the underside of your chin while yelling "lock biotch". :biggrin

[llll1l1ll]

I tend to enjoy the negative attention associated with doing strange things in public from time to time.

[ryankokesh]

Of course, that's the whole point......you have to lean forward while you extend one leg straight out behind you, point left index finger toward Uranus and touch the key to the underside of your chin while yelling "lock biotch". :biggrin

Best. Thing. Evah. :rofl


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[WOLFN8TR]

Mine use to Beep once when armed and twice for Disarmed and the lights would flash and the Clown nose would blink.
For some reason it does not beep once when armed now only the lights blink. Any ideas?


A lot of times when I get home and park the car in the garage and temps are high like they have been lately I will open the hood to let the heat escape easier. I've noticed that when I lock the doors with the hood open I don't get the beep. Later on when I do close the hood (doors locked, alarm armed) then it will do the single beep.

Anything changed recently with your underhood switch? Not making contact for some reason?


It's funny you say that. Lately it's been so hot here when I pull in the garage I open the hood and set a floor fan in front of the car to help cool it down. We have had 115 degree days last week which is brutal. Also I took the car to the car wash yesterday and apparently I got the hood sensor wet. Glad you mentioned that. Messed with it and got it working again!

Bumping this because this issue is now intermittent again. I had William code my car to Beep when armed and disarmed. It always beeps during disarming but occasionally when disarming. It's hot here again so I'm back to opening the hood after pulling into the garage as stated above. I noticed when I arm the alarm with the hood open it ALWAYS beeps now. Close the hood and it is random. Is that a problem with the hood switch going bad??

Anyone had this problem?

[SoCalZman]

Mine only beeps when arming about 5% of the time. Not sure why. My hood switch appears to work.

They're very cheap, I hear. Maybe you should try replacing it?

[WOLFN8TR]

Ya that's what I was thinking also. Couldn't hurt beings how cheap they are.

[SoCalZman]

Well report back! Inquiring minds want to know!

[WOLFN8TR]

Roger that...

[SoCalZman]

Ah what the hell, I ordered one too but I don't think that will fix my issue. it was only 10 dollars at bmwmercedes parts. Just added it to an order I placed earlier today.

61319119052

[WOLFN8TR]

Ah what the hell, I ordered one too but I don't think that will fix my issue. it was only 10 dollars at bmwmercedes parts. Just added it to an order I placed earlier today.

61319119052

That's a good price! I had to order some other items I have saved on ECSTUNING so I ordered from them, they were $12.22.

Hood Switch 61319119052 (http://www.ecstuning.com/ES168350/)

[ItsMeScottG]

Please let me know if replacing the hood switch fixes the issue. My ZHp only beeps sometimes when I lock it, sometimes it doesn't beep when I lock it. I would like to fix this fixed also.

[WOLFN8TR]

Please let me know if replacing the hood switch fixes the issue. My ZHp only beeps sometimes when I lock it, sometimes it doesn't beep when I lock it. I would like to fix this fixed also.

Will do...

[Trans]

If you have PA Soft. Try unchecking the "Arming, doors closed- acoustic" option.

[SoCalZman]

I do have pasoft and all my alarm boxes are checked, including that one. What does that specific box do and why would it finally allow chirping when locking? Thought that box was to confirm the arming of the doors (acoustically)

[Trans]

Not sure why, but it works for me. If you have PA Soft, give it a try.

[SoCalZman]

I will do it when I get home. Just curious, have you tested your doors? Like with your windows down and car armed reached inside and opened the door?

[Trans]

With the car armed, you can't pull the inside door latch. I have press the central lock button, then pull the latch from inside. At that point, the alarm is activated of course.

[WOLFN8TR]

If you have PA Soft. Try unchecking the "Arming, doors closed- acoustic" option.

William did this on my ZHP already and it's still intermittent.

[SoCalZman]

Ok I just spent some time out at the car.

1) I unchecked "Arming, doors closed- acoustic", coded the car, and tested it...and I got the chime on lock! So thanks for suggesting that, Trans! I hope it "sticks” and does not become intermittent again. Thinking out loud here, unchecking this box means the car is not checking the doors before giving out the arming beep, right? Could that mean the car was not beeping because one of the doors isn’t arming when we are locking for whatever reason? I plan on testing all four of the doors like you did when I have a chance to take it to a big lot where I won't bother anyone.

2) This scan marks the SECOND time in a row that when I checked my alarm settings, the "DWE interior sensor" box was unchecked. I know for a fact that I checked it again and again, and for some reason it is coming up unchecked when I scan (scans are about 6 months apart). I checked the box again and coded it in when making the 1) adjustment. Has anyone else come across this? I can test this too when I find a big lot.

Here is what it looks like when I disconnected:
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/28/ygy8u9up.jpg

3) not really alarm related but thought this was funny. The nav had 2 errors but couldn't tell me what they were. Hah.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/28/u3a5agav.jpg

full scan results if anyone is curious:
DME* -> 2774/88 - Engine cut off time

EWS -> 0F/24 - Power on reset

SRS -> Shadow-memory:
61/20 - Passenger's seat belt buckle switch, resistance too low or short to ground
70/10 - Seat occupancy detector, connection to B+
03/40 - Passenger's belt tensioner, resistance too high
60/20 - Driver's seat belt buckle switch, resistance too low or short to ground
02/40 - Driver's belt tensioner, resistance too high

ZKE -> Shadow-memory:
90/22 - Battery Voltage: Open circuit
9E/01 - Driver mirror: undervoltage Mirror heating
85/21 - Alarm memory: Tailgate

TEL -> 91/3F - Main antenna or compensator/combiner disconnected or shortcut

SZM -> Shadow-memory:
05/02 - Seat heating Lower voltage recognised

BMBT -> 01/03 - Watchdog reset

[Trans]

^^ Congrats on getting the lock *beep*.

[WOLFN8TR]

Well report back! Inquiring minds want to know!


Please let me know if replacing the hood switch fixes the issue. My ZHp only beeps sometimes when I lock it, sometimes it doesn't beep when I lock it. I would like to fix this fixed also.

Got the New Hood Switch today. Didn't change a dam thing. :facepalm

[SoCalZman]

Hmm. Can you post a screenshot of pa soft on the alarm page? Maybe something got checked or unchecked by accident or something.


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[WOLFN8TR]

Hmm. Can you post a screenshot of pa soft on the alarm page? Maybe something got checked or unchecked by accident or something.

I don't have PA Soft, William did the programming on my car when I was down at Johns last year.

[SoCalZman]

Just a quick update. I just happened to press my lock button on my key with my passenger door open and the car still chirped so it is definitely not checking the doors when arming the car. I guess that means one of my doors is not arming correctly previously since I didn't get the chirp before. Strange because no door fault codes seemed to come up in PA Soft since installing the alarm. I want/need to figure out how to troubleshoot the doors to find out what is causing the problem. Does another program monitor the alarm system better than PA Soft? Like INPA or something?

[OtterEffect]

I usually point the key fob at my crotch. works great.






j/k

:rofl