The picture doesn't show the severity of it. This is a mountain that i went up, not a little hill. That part of the driveway is at least a half mile uphill. Like I said before, many 4x4s didn't make it up this.
Printable View
I made it up a mountain that had a nice layer of black ice with my previous cheap allseasons. I didn't realize it was ice, and was wondering why my traction light was coming on. It was the stopping on the back down side of the mountain that didn't happen. Never experienced that feeling before in my life, brake pedal clunking and pushing my foot off. I ran three stop signs and coasted into the nearest gas station. And that's where the car stayed til the ice melted.
I think all cars do pretty well if the ground is flat, but once there's elevation changes it's more in the driver's hands. If you're really curious, ask David (Mtnman) about it. We live in a mountainous area, nothing is flat.
Aggressive winter tires that can handle heavy sloppy snow and ice would make a RWD BMW shine better than most FWD and trucks if the snow isn't as high as the undercarriage. Being a photographer it's very hard to take pictures of the severity of hills without proper angles which are usually very time consuming to get into place to take the pics. Our cars can handle decently steep inclines when straight. Through in a corner and it makes it that much harder. When going straight 100% of your traction goes into moving forward which is what we need in a RWD. When we corner we might use 20% into cornering which leaves 80% for forward movement which may or may not allow you to continue forward! The next thing is.....DRIVE BACKWARDS! :) I've done that many times in certain super steep areas!! LOL The car goes right up and thanks to 50/50 weight distribution I can still turn the car while the drive wheels pull the car up! hahah. Finally I can go places where those crazy Corolla's can go. Those crazy Japanese cars are indestructible in winter driving scenarios! When you think everyone is stuck, a 1982 Accord plows right on through with all seasons!
My Pirelli Sottozero tires got me through ice and packed snow without incident today. That's right, RWD baby.
I couldn't figure out for the life of me why the hell people with AWD cars were crawling. Absolutely unnecessary in those areas. Had to get around them, they were that friggin' slow.
Nobody at work believes me when I say you really don't need AWD, you just need good snow tires and some skill.
AWD is still better than RWD given the same driver technique, tires, and conditions. It's not fair to judge a great driver with a well prepared RWD setup versus an 'ok' driver with no setup...LOL. Driving my sister's A4 quattro in the ice and snow gives me a heck of a lot better maneuverability than my car does. I never have to worry about sidestepping the rear out dramatically and her car I can hold a sideways angle so easily while it accelerates out of the line like a bat out of cold h#ll!! Hahah.
But since this is a daily ZHP pic thread...I'd posting my nightly one. Dane I hope you're happy with this composition. LOL.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-X...5201010447.jpg
Finally!
Sent from Williamsburg, VA USA
Look ma, no steering wheel!
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/...-32-26_829.jpg
Lol. One arm on the window seal and one arm around your girl, with convertible driving you don't need a steering wheel!