MINI today? #2

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07-29-2016, 07:03 AM
san

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Originally Posted by NoVAphotog

I can't imagine the auto-start stop "feature" on the newer cars being good for these reasons...although to your last comment they could be good? Long lights, etc?

The starter on the vehicle having start-stop is completely different to normal starters... They are much more durable due to their hardware so can't really compare the two...

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07-29-2016, 07:03 AM
Sockethead

I just get in and drive... My philosophy is "if it's gonna break, it's gonna break"

Daniel, I can tell you the start stop feature will annoy you within the first 5 min of using it. When we had the F30 the starting procedure was hit the start button then hit off auto start/stop button. I don't know if BMW is still doing it but for a while they were offering a 1 time programming the feature to off by default for new car owners
07-29-2016, 07:15 AM
az3579

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Originally Posted by slater

if you really want to get nitty and gritty about it, we can start talking about voltage and how an older or sub-par battery negatively affects the starter... but man, there comes a point where you have to live your life and just replace the dang starter if it fails. ;)

Well when it comes to having to pay a good chunk of change to someone else to replace the starter, I'd like to get as much out of it as I possibly can. That is not a job I would want to tackle. When it comes to labor costs, every bit helps in prolonging the life of a part. That is why I rev match every shift, so I don't have to get a clutch sooner than I need to, because that is a big job as well.

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so you shut if off? but then when you restart all of those times - oh, the unnecessary wear on the starter!! ;) ;)

I shut it off when I'm done driving the car, and don't turn it on unless I know I'm about to immediately start driving. I don't sit there in my car on my phone while it's just idling away - that's pointless. I don't let it run while I'm outside of the car doing other things like some people I know do... my neighbor will let his car run while he's doing stuff in the garage, or while he runs inside "for a few minutes" and ends up coming back 15 minutes later.

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Originally Posted by Sockethead

I just get in and drive... My philosophy is "if it's gonna break, it's gonna break"

Easy to say when you have multiple cars you can drive. If something breaks on my car, I'm out until it's repaired. I've got too much shit I need to do to be out of a car --- ain't nobody got time fo' dat.

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Daniel, I can tell you the start stop feature will annoy you within the first 5 min of using it. When we had the F30 the starting procedure was hit the start button then hit off auto start/stop button. I don't know if BMW is still doing it but for a while they were offering a 1 time programming the feature to off by default for new car owners

I quite like the start/stop feature on the loaners I get, especially for all those times I'm stuck at the numerous unusually-long red lights in my area. It works pretty seamlessly with my driving style.
07-29-2016, 07:17 AM
TheFinanceGuy

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Originally Posted by Sockethead

I just get in and drive... My philosophy is "if it's gonna break, it's gonna break"

Daniel, I can tell you the start stop feature will annoy you within the first 5 min of using it. When we had the F30 the starting procedure was hit the start button then hit off auto start/stop button. I don't know if BMW is still doing it but for a while they were offering a 1 time programming the feature to off by default for new car owners

This to all of this. If it breaks, it breaks. I like to drive the car.

(Though, I do give the car an extra 1/2 a second out of habit from my old E36).

My FIL does the same starting procedure.
Start, off auto start/stop, go.

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07-29-2016, 07:29 AM
Sockethead

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Originally Posted by az3579

Well when it comes to having to pay a good chunk of change to someone else to replace the starter, I'd like to get as much out of it as I possibly can. That is not a job I would want to tackle. When it comes to labor costs, every bit helps in prolonging the life of a part. That is why I rev match every shift, so I don't have to get a clutch sooner than I need to, because that is a big job as well.

I shut it off when I'm done driving the car, and don't turn it on unless I know I'm about to immediately start driving. I don't sit there in my car on my phone while it's just idling away - that's pointless. I don't let it run while I'm outside of the car doing other things like some people I know do... my neighbor will let his car run while he's doing stuff in the garage, or while he runs inside "for a few minutes" and ends up coming back 15 minutes later.

Easy to say when you have multiple cars you can drive. If something breaks on my car, I'm out until it's repaired. I've got too much shit I need to do to be out of a car --- ain't nobody got time fo' dat.

I quite like the start/stop feature on the loaners I get, especially for all those times I'm stuck at the numerous unusually-long red lights in my area. It works pretty seamlessly with my driving style.

I don't even come close to doing any of that and my ZHP has been one of the most reliable cars I've owned.

BP, I can see how you'd like the feature saving precious seconds of wear and tear but as soon as your sitting in traffic with the start stop feature and the air conditioner starts blowing hot air, you'll be turning that shit off even though it restarts it's itself after a time
07-29-2016, 10:18 AM
az3579

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Originally Posted by Sockethead

BP, I can see how you'd like the feature saving precious seconds of wear and tear but as soon as your sitting in traffic with the start stop feature and the air conditioner starts blowing hot air, you'll be turning that shit off even though it restarts it's itself after a time

Nope. I'd leave it on, because loaner. Not my car, don't care. Doesn't bother me.
I know it may be hard to fathom, but I like the features the new cars have, electric power steering and all. :)
07-29-2016, 11:56 AM
Johnmadd

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Originally Posted by az3579

Nope. I'd leave it on, because loaner. Not my car, don't care. Doesn't bother me.
I know it may be hard to fathom, but I like the features the new cars have, electric power steering and all. :)

That's not a good attitude, that's the attitude that people who ding people's cars with their doors in parking lots. Just saying.
07-29-2016, 04:17 PM
az3579

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Originally Posted by Johnmadd

That's not a good attitude, that's the attitude that people who ding people's cars with their doors in parking lots. Just saying.

Not the same thing. When I drive a car that doesn't belong to me, I treat it better than my own.

Not caring about whether the engine starts and stops all the time using a feature the car was designed to use is hardly neglect.

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07-29-2016, 04:42 PM
terraphantm

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Originally Posted by az3579

It is there, but it's not that symbol - instead it's the EML light. I looked it up on Google Images and confirmed it because I thought it was there, just with no LED. Same position in the cluster

Just looked at photos and you're right. What's that symbol between where the m-track logo would be and the rear fog lamp symbol? That LED is unpopulated
07-29-2016, 05:11 PM
az3579

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Originally Posted by terraphantm

Just looked at photos and you're right. What's that symbol between where the m-track logo would be and the rear fog lamp symbol? That LED is unpopulated

I don't think that spot is used for anything on any E46 cluster. Can't find it lit up on any of the E46 clusters I see on Google Images.

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