How safe are they ? Always wonder if it fits under a drop car . I guess I could just use boards to get higherQuote:
Originally Posted by ZHPizza
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How safe are they ? Always wonder if it fits under a drop car . I guess I could just use boards to get higherQuote:
Originally Posted by ZHPizza
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aww man.... you read my mind. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ZHPizza
sounds great. $999 shipped is a steal. i gotta look into these more seriously now - where did you order from?
Nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZHPizza
I really need one of those at the house.
SPEAKIN MY LANGUAGE BRUHQuote:
Originally Posted by BMWCurves
I talked myself into it for the safety aspect alone. Every year that I get older, I get less comfortable crawling under 3000lbs of steel (and jumping off of cliffs, etc). I hate hate hate lying under the car and trying to yank on a stuck fastener while the thing is precariously suspended on jack stands. I kept picturing myself pinned to the floor under a failed jackstand and a few thousand pounds of car thinking that a $1k lift didn't sound so bad now.Quote:
Originally Posted by rguti153
I just put it together and got it bled/tested last night, so I haven't been under the car with it yet. I'm not worried about it, though. Something like this would be built with a safety factor of around 3 at least. They pretty much confirmed that in a video where they stacked like 16k lbs on their 5k lb lift without issue.
I ordered straight from their site since that's the only place that it's on sale.Quote:
Originally Posted by slater
https://www.quickjack.com/car-lift-s...-car-lift.html
I tried a few retailers that carry them, but of the few that actually had the lifts in stock, none could honor their "beat any advertised price" guarantee on these. The only other thing that I had to purchase was 2 quarts of ATF, so my total sunk cost is like $1015. Shoot them a message and see what shipping to middle-o-nowhere Canada will run you -- might be worth it to ship to an address across the border and go pick it up in [one of] the touring[s]!
yeah, i think about that too, which is why i've been considering these as well. although now after looking at the different models, i kinda want the 7000lb unit. it goes another 2" higher!Quote:
Originally Posted by ZHPizza
The 3500 goes plenty high for me. Here is a comparison that someone did so you can relate to how much a set of jack stands would have to be extended to get the same height. I wouldn't even want to stand beside a car on those. I grabbed the red car by the fender last night and tried to rock it while at full lift -- wouldn't budge.Quote:
Originally Posted by slater
https://www.flyinmiata.com/media/cat.../p/h/photo.jpg
And here's the rundown of the model differences so that people can see that your above statement was a lie: You don't want the extra lift. You want to lift the tank!
Attachment 29163
oh wow, that is a great comparison shot! can you use the 'lift blocks' like they have for trucks/SUVs with the 3500 model to get a little more height?Quote:
Originally Posted by ZHPizza
and.... yeah, i DO want to lift the tank. ;) but i would definitely like an extra 2" of lift, as i use my creeper whenever i can. i've got a low-profile one, but my back is still 2" off the ground.
From their FAQ:Quote:
Originally Posted by slater
So I guess the 5000/7000 are a little wider. BUT nothing is stopping you from stacking some cut 2x4's in there for extra lift. I'll try to grab some pictures tonight:Quote:
Why can't I use SUV adapter on BL-3500SLX?
The square footprint of the SUV adapters was intentionally made wide. The inside spacing on the BL-3500SLX block trays is narrower than our larger units that accommodate the SUV adapters. The BL-3500SLX was not designed for trucks and SUV's.
1. Pic of collapsed lift under frame rail to show clearance
2. Pics of contact between lifting blocks/jack pads
3. Stack a bunch of shit in the trays and see how high you can make it go
4. More! Higher!
5. Cleaning up ATF after I push it too far and blow a hose
6. Screenshot of conversation with QuickJack warranty department claiming that it failed under normal operation and how dare you accuse me of misuse!
Anything else?
Dude, I love your sense of humour!Quote:
Originally Posted by ZHPizza
A shot of you drinking some fine bourbon with a smug look on your face after you win the argument with QuickJack warranty department in #6.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZHPizza
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Originally Posted by ZHPizza
rock. thanks dude. i'm reeeeeeal close to ordering some o' these bad boys....
:cheers
Could you get a picture of the safety lock mechanism as well? They did mention something about it on the website but I can't seem to find it...Quote:
Originally Posted by ZHPizza
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I love how you spell humor! Must be in one of the queen's colonies...Quote:
Originally Posted by Adi
I'll have drunk all the bourbon during the "testing" and probably end up sipping a glass of ATF by the time I'm done.Quote:
Originally Posted by anandoc
I'm worried that it'll end up being $999 + $500 shipping so like $15,000 CADQuote:
Originally Posted by slater
This video shows the safety locks and other stuff a lot better than any pictures I could take. You can lower it onto the locks and disconnect the hoses since the support is all mechanical at that point. Trust me, I would not get under anything that relied on hydraulics to keep it in the air.Quote:
Originally Posted by san
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHlOUA6qyR8
Thanks for the video, Il have a look...Quote:
Originally Posted by ZHPizza
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LOL. actually if i have it shipped to my package holding place in NY (right near where you and spenser crossed the border), shipping is free.... i just have to pay tax + duty when i bring it in. which... basically ends up around $1500CAD. i found it for sale in canada for $1712CAD delivered to my door here (that includes our crazy 13% tax). so if i pick it up myself, is the time and gas worth ~$200?Quote:
Originally Posted by ZHPizza
i do want one. bad.
I'm an economist by education, so it makes me strangely happy when I see others thinking like this lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by slater
How do you justify spending so much on your Zhp then? LolQuote:
Originally Posted by 704sw
Don't think all the money we spend on our cars are good financial decisions lol
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:cheersQuote:
Originally Posted by 704sw
you know, i would love to see a 5-year breakdown on this versus buying a new camry. in the 3 years i have owned my ZHP, i have spent about $15K on it (including the purchase price), with a predicted $1K per year in maintenance per year over the next 2 years. that's $17K (CAD no less! that's almost free in USD!) over 5 years - half the price of a new car, with much higher driving enjoyment (clearly not anything quantifiable on a spreadsheet).Quote:
Originally Posted by san
good financial decision? heck yeah.
Don't forget a nearly complete lack of depreciation!Quote:
Originally Posted by slater
Simple: I'm single and don't have children.Quote:
Originally Posted by san
But seriously, I have a (fairly) strict "nothing in without something out" policy.
Buy new seats? Old ones have to go.
Buy new wheels? Old ones are gone.
http://www.quickjacklift.ca/Quote:
Originally Posted by slater
C$1529 to your door
I'd call them and/or the US site and ask about the sale pricing, though.
yep, that was the site - but that price doesn't include tax ($183CAD). good point on the sale pricing - i will call!Quote:
Originally Posted by ZHPizza
I really like the looks (and thought of having) that lift.
Why compare to a new Camry? Why not compare against one with similar age and miles? [emoji6]Quote:
Originally Posted by slater
While there is no doubt that driving enjoyment is higher and as you said unquantifiable, it is certainly not as economical.
Is there a car that can offer more fun at this price point? Maybe not
Is there a more economical way of commuting? Yes
But a car isn't just for commuting for us, it's much more. At least that's what I tell myself [emoji4]
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exactly. which is why it's silly to even have this discussion. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by san
I dunno, the ZHP fun factor is pretty quantifiable. I think the going rate is 2.7 GTIs, and about 12.4 Camrys to the ZHP. I'd launch 11.4 of them off of a bridge and donate the last one to someone who needs it.
I think we can bring the ratio down for the Camry. Put some coilovers on, and some reverse-staggered wheels/tires to reduce the understeer. Though with 268 horses on tap, you might be entering ZHP slayer territory.
We have 2 (2014, 2016) Camrys at work. They are absolutely horrible. I've logged 15k miles or more in them over the last 8 months and I literally don't have a single good thing to say. I would rather drive a late-90s Honda Civic.Quote:
Originally Posted by BMWCurves
Alright boiiiis I grabbed some pics and measurements earlier. I only had a 20 minute window, but I managed to get the car up, take these pics, pull all four wheels, swap the spacers front to rear, torque everything down, and drive it out of the garage. Mission was accomplished, but it looks like I didn't get all of the pictures that I was after. Here is what I have:
Lift collapsed under the frame rail. Tons of clearance with the car on stock suspension/tire sizes. Should be fine for nearly any lowered zhp.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...07aee512f9.jpg
The lift comes with 8 rubber blocks. 4 large, 4 small. I used the large block in the front:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...53a4a3b75e.jpg
And the large block with a piece of 1x4 in the rear:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...6435142b1a.jpg
You'll notice that the blocks are about 1-2 inches shy of fully covering the jack pads. Such is life with the 3500 model. Doesn't bother me, though. Just takes some care with positioning.
Here's my comparison photo showing how high you would have to set a jack stand to get the same height as the lift in the high position:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...057a855315.jpg
And with that I found a nice method for positioning a jack stand as a safety in case the locking arm fails:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...fd8c359559.jpg
I measured at the fender peak and got just over 13" height increase. This confirms that the claimed 20" of lift is measuring from the floor, so the rack with both blocks (large/small) stacked at each corner will be 7" high and raise up 13" from that point.
So you could always drive up on some boards and stack blocks of wood with the rubber blocks to get more height. I'm very happy with the height as it was tonight, though. Hopefully I'll get some time under it this weekend to have a better feel for it.
Hey I'm not the one who brought the Camry into this discussion [emoji6] hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by slater
Yup agree, it's a silly discussion [emoji4]
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:thumbsupQuote:
Originally Posted by 704sw
I'm kinda the same, the only reason I bought the intake and exhaust for my car is because I can recoup most of the money I spent on them if I have/need to...
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Thanks for the pics and good thinking on using the jack stand as an extra safety layer :thumbsup
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it could have 500hp, and would still suck. have you driven a newer camry? my father-in-law has one. he got the 'sport' package (note the quotes), auto with flappy paddles, etc. and the 4 cylinder. it has a decent driving position, but that's it. it has a lousy transmission - it shifts so slowly, there is no need for flappy paddles. it has one of the worst engine notes (calling it's tone an 'engine note' may even be too kind - it's noise) i've ever heard. a school bus sounds better. the 'sport' suspension is too hard and crashes over smooth pavement. and it's hideously ugly.Quote:
Originally Posted by holyc0w
my mother-in-law just bought a new corolla S. it actually is about 100x nicer to drive than the camry, but it's still a boring appliance.
amen, brother!Quote:
Originally Posted by 704sw
thanks for the pics, nate.... that is awesome. love the re-purposed jack stand! great idea. :cheersQuote:
Originally Posted by ZHPizza
Have you owned a GTI? Curious about how the driving experience of a ZHP compares.Quote:
Originally Posted by BMWCurves
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No, I haven't driven a newer Camry nor have much desire to. If I was looking in that direction, Mazda would be the first stop and then Honda, Kia and Hyundai. I'm not too bothered with slow shifting transmissions since I had one for several years. I drove a 2007 Corolla and it seemed alright. It just needs a bigger armrest, but yeah..the engine sounds a bit toaster-ish.Quote:
Originally Posted by slater
We got a Camry as rental last year... a horrible car... I was surprised by how bad it was since it's always a top seller
Just proves you can sell people anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sockethead
My family has had 6 different Lexus's in the driveway since '92. It's been very interesting to see the rise through the 90s and decline in Toyota quality. It looks nice, sure; but you can put lipstick on a pig and it's still a pig.
Please don't insult my beloved Camry. Ruby Red.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sockethead
Are y'all about done talking about how shitty the Camry is?
Yea. Let's talk about lift-time this weekend. CDV delete+brake adjustment?Quote:
Originally Posted by ZHPizza