Not really, what do you need? I also use the Ultimate, and it's barely ok. I also have a couple of others that suffice, but nothing really sturdy/100% reliable vs. the original ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by UWISHU1
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Not really, what do you need? I also use the Ultimate, and it's barely ok. I also have a couple of others that suffice, but nothing really sturdy/100% reliable vs. the original ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by UWISHU1
I have a cheap fix, it works great for me. My son's sippy cup is too wide for the car's cup holder. I got a plastic cup from Taco Bell (large size) and always carry it in the car. Sippy cup goes into Taco Bell cup, which goes into cup holder. Hope it helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by UWISHU1
So what yall think if I put her on my bark rear door window . In the little small window . Lol kinda childish. Maybe when I give my car to my wife . She wants it Attachment 24507
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Hey, if it makes the wife happy, it's a win ;)
How is the Shadowline trim attached? My passenger side rear door area is coming undone, but it seems like it became unglued from a tab. I want to fix it before the whole thing comes off and I need to spend a small fortune to fix it!
I would like to know this too, my driver door part is starting to come off!Quote:
Originally Posted by theothersawyer
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Originally Posted by theothersawyer
It is attached via clips which are really fragile. It is actually not a really great design.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZacharyMikel
You can pull the trim off and apply double sided tape or pull the complete trim and replace all the clips.
+1 on them being fragile. Anybody got a pic?
Here is one link http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=866331
And who is the cak323 guy that posted there? Anyone we know?
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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - anonymous
I meant to take one, but was in a hurry when I noticed it. I only noticed it because the door was actually catching on the Shadowline!
That is how it starts. Then it just gets worseQuote:
Originally Posted by theothersawyer
That's Charlie...Quote:
Originally Posted by ELCID86
I don't want it to get worse!
3M double-sided tape works like a charm.Quote:
Originally Posted by theothersawyer
I'll definitely be doing that! Need to use 3M tape to install my front splitters anyways!
Thought so. Thread from 2011!Quote:
Originally Posted by az3579
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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - anonymous
Thx for the cupholder input...does anyone have experience with the Euro tray? It seems to be a good template to work with. I prefer to do things as "right"/permanent/factory as possible.
My father has one in his ZHP. I like it. I really wish they made a center console with one cup holder at the front the rest is a sliding tray like in the euro tray. One guy tried to custom fab oneQuote:
Originally Posted by UWISHU1
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showpos...6&postcount=16
I have the sliding euro tray. I do like it. You can set a small drink in there (water bottle, etc) and slide the door closed to help secure it.
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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - anonymous
+1 This is exactly what I do with my euro tray and it works well! I hardly ever need to use it as a cup holder as most of the time I'm either using my coffee thermos, or a water bottleQuote:
Originally Posted by ELCID86
Sad times! I'll fix it this weekend probably!
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...pseselk6yl.jpg
I have this exact same problem, I feel your pain man.Quote:
Originally Posted by theothersawyer
Yup clip unglued from the trim
There's probably a better way, but when that happened with my trim I slathered some gorilla glue on all the contact points, and 3 years of wild temp swings later it's still there!
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Originally Posted by ELCID86
Interesting stuffs. I'm thinking just going Euro tray is my best bet. I'd probably fab something to go into it as a cupholder. I used to do car stereos back in the day...like way back when you had to make your own dash kits....so I've got some skill with molding plastic and making things go into others and still look nice. Time may tell if I've still got it. Question: Can you wedge just about any cup size into the euro tray and slide it shut and that does alright? Like is it a lot better than my current small cupholder situation, and also better than the Ultimate Cupholder?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ssparrow
Why not just keep your cupholder insert in the glovebox and swap it out with the euro tray when you need it? It takes all of 5 seconds. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by UWISHU1
A big gulp or McD's iced tea won't fit. And if they did would be very risky...Quote:
Originally Posted by UWISHU1
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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - anonymous
Comparing the cupholder in my car to the eurotray in my father's car, there really isn't a whole lot of difference in width/diameter that either one can hold. The cupholder does "taper" in a way since it has a two-tiered opening, but even so, both are limited by the width of the center console.Quote:
Originally Posted by UWISHU1
Are you talking about using OEM parts to accomplish this? The stock cupholder insert can insert into the euro tray?Quote:
Originally Posted by az3579
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Originally Posted by ELCID86
Thx gents, good info.Quote:
Originally Posted by BMWCurves
It doesn't insert "into" it, it replaces it entirely. Just lift it out and put the cupholder in, and vice versa. Quick change.Quote:
Originally Posted by UWISHU1
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This....Quote:
Originally Posted by az3579
Never thought about that BP, Great idea!
I've thought about this dilemma myself quite a few times and is the best solution I could come up with. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Sockethead
I don't keep anything else in my glovebox save for maybe a Lightning cable for when a friend wants to charge their ... Apple thing-a-ma-bob...
So, the cupholder fits perfectly in there, which will be a handy quick-swap for when I get my euro tray and new console. :thumbsup
Hmm, maybe I'm being dense here.
This is the euro tray that was linked, so I'm assuming it's the one everyone's talking about:
https://c1552172.ssl.cf0.rackcdn.com/713461_x800.jpg
And this is how someone modified the stock cupholder to work with the euro console:
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/attachm...8&d=1285158726
If I understand what you're saying correctly, you're talking about quickly interchanging the stock cupholder for the euro tray. Do you mean quickly exchanging the whole console? Plz halp me understand this.
The center console is broken up into two pieces for US cars. The front section has two cupholders, like so:
https://c1552172.ssl.cf0.rackcdn.com/11267_x800.jpg
The rear section has an open storage "tray" with a coinholder:
https://c1552172.ssl.cf0.rackcdn.com/30009_x800.jpg
As far as I know, there are two European or "euro trays." There is a third, but that's for cars with built in phones or something, so I won't touch on it.
1. There is the "short" that is the same size as the cupholders and can swap out directly with it. Part no. 51167043093 (black), 51167043094 (gray), and 51167043095 (beige)
https://c1552172.ssl.cf0.rackcdn.com/190005_x800.jpg
2. There is the "long" tray which replaces both the cupholders and the coin tray as a single piece. This is considered the "true" euro tray. Part no. 51167038323 (black), 51167038324 (gray), and 51167038325 (beige)
https://c1552172.ssl.cf0.rackcdn.com/713458_x800.jpg
3. There is also a third option that is just two open bins. Personally I prefer the sliding cover of the euro trays, but some may prefer the open nature of this bin:
https://c1552172.ssl.cf0.rackcdn.com/473567_x800.jpg
Great post man. Thx for breaking it down for me. Interchanging the short euro tray with the USDM cupholders seems pretty simple, but not simple enough to just throw in when I happen to know I'll be using a large cup, especially since it may not help much anyway. I like the idea of using a Taco Bell type large cup, but it just seems so jenky. I was really sad that the Ultimate doesn't sound like it works very well. Can anyone elaborate on the problems it has? I'm wondering if some modification can overcome them? If so, I'd get the long, covered euro tray and just use a pair of Ultimates as cup holders on each side of the console.
...just so you guys know where I'm coming from- I use my cupholder(s) every day since I'm drinking something on the way to work, and often a drink from lunch (varying sizes), and regularly use a variety of protein shake shakers. Sometimes I'm juggling two at a time, plus a water bottle. So yeah, you could say the cupholder situation is important to me. With that said, I also need more space than in the armrest for things like chargers, etc. that I don't want to put in the door card.
What's not simple about it? It takes very little effort to do. I just want to make sure you know that they literally just lift up and out when you grab them by the little notches towards the front on both sides.Quote:
Originally Posted by UWISHU1
I've never had an issue fitting the largest of fast food chain cups in my cupholders, and they are pretty stable if left untouched. Unless Taco Bell offers some kind of gallon size I don't know about, I don't foresee this being an issue for the stock cupholders.Quote:
I like the idea of using a Taco Bell type large cup, but it just seems so jenky.
The shaker - these cars weren't designed with cupholders in mind, and shakers are too big for the standard cupholders. What I do with non-standard size bottles is extend the passenger seat thigh rest all the way and let the bottle sit on its side in the ridge between the bolster and the seat cushion.
Any thoughts opinions on ecstuning version of brake caliper sliders?
https://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E46-33...per/ES2918637/
I suppose it just comes down to preference. I don't want to have to retrieve and install a different console piece as often as I'd need to, regardless of how simple the swap is. I intend to find a solution that always works for both storage and cup holders, one way or another. That's the beauty of the aftermarket- there's always a way to get what you want. I know cup holders are far from what BMW engineers are focused on, and that's probably a good thing. All the shakers and larger cups I use fit in my Subaru, my Hondas, and the wife's RDX, so I'm gonna say BMW screwed up a little by making them too small. Another problem I have is that I use a gatorade water bottle from time to time for sports like indoor soccer, and that doesn't fit either. I think this is why The Ultimate Cupholder exists.
I'm genuinely curious as to what about the ultimate cupholder doesn't work well so I can see if I can overcome it. I've got resources up to and including talented engineer friends who have made me some pretty clever designs over the years, so it's also possible I call on them to come up with a better solution.
Thx for the idea on extending the thigh rest...I'll definitely be using that for some things. I think that ultimately a euro console (for storage) and a couple modified/optimized ultimate cupholders could be the solution I need.
Europeans think cup holders are silly, that's why they suck in BMWs.
I use the extended thigh rest for everything, works great as a convenient storage bin ;)
Does anyone else have a mirror like this?
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