Charlie's 2008 Porsche 997 turbo

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Originally Posted by ELCID86

Did you consider a Cayman?

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not a 911, not in my garage....sorry, that's how I feel Shawn... but with that said, the Cayman is an awesome track oriented car :thumbsup

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Originally Posted by cakM3

Problem is these new BMWs don't do anything for me Shawn. They have become too big and bloated in my opinion... the 911 still has maintained it's classic shape and is still a "driver's car" compared to today's BMW variants. Sad to say but this is how I feel. I won't get rid of my E46 BMWs as I still feel a solid connection with each of my cars. I still have that "driver's experience" when driving them.

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These are also my exact feelings about the new Bimmers and the reason I've kept the ZHP for nearly 10 years. The wife is actually considering a Boxster when her lease is up on the 328i next June. If I didn't need a truck & a boat, I may have stepped into a 911 by now.

IDK, we really love our 2015 X1 35i M sport...granted it is based on the 9X platform.
I'd consider a 9X M only for the fact that I want something with a V8 again

In addition to my two 911s, I've owned a Boxster, and I've driven a number of Caymans (?Caymen?) from 2006 to 2013. Even with the bigger-motored S models, they have a different character than the 911. I wouldn't say that one is "better", just different; and they are clearly all Porsches.

There has always been a significant price difference new, and that is reflected in a lot of the materials and finishing touches in the cars - there is some indication that the 987/981 is built to a price that isn't there with the 997/991. On the other hand, a lot of the price differential is driven by the higher margin Porsche demands (and gets) for the 911 models. Engine differences and performance differences are largely built-in to justify that price gap.

The mid-engine 987/981 handles better than the 997/991 in the hands of 99% of all drivers (me included). There, I said it. An expert driver, let's say Patrick Long, may be able to wring that last percent of performance out of the 911, but the average driver will get more performance out of the 987/981. The 911 has the advantage of being able to put the power down harder coming out of a turn, the increased ability to rotate the chassis, and more power period due to Porsche offering more powerful engine options; but it's offset by trickier handling that is kept in check in the modern cars with super-wide rear tires and stability control systems.

However, the 911s generally have a higher materials quality inside, partly because more of them have been purchased with the often optional extras that make the interior nicer. The car drives more quietly, smoothly, and comfortably, and generally feels more sophisticated - it rides a more fine line between sports car and GT, while the 987/981 is pure sports car.

A big factor for me buying my current 997.2S vs another Boxster S or Cayman S was the back seat. With kids, it suddenly goes from a Sunday AM once a month car to a daily driver. And clearly, if you want the additional power of a Turbo or AWD, you have no choice but a 911. But if I didn't have kids, I'm not sure that I wouldn't have bought a newer 981 Spyder or GTS with the same money I put into the 911.

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Originally Posted by orange260z

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A big factor for me buying my current 997.2S vs another Boxster S or Cayman S was the back seat. With kids, it suddenly goes from a Sunday AM once a month car to a daily driver. And clearly, if you want the additional power of a Turbo or AWD, you have no choice but a 911. But if I didn't have kids, I'm not sure that I wouldn't have bought a newer 981 Spyder or GTS with the same money I put into the 911.

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I would live to talk about the above. My debate for is between a 997,newer Boxster S, or older turbo. PM me if you are open. No kids and it's a 3rd car for my mountain house so think curves mountain roads I.e. Tail of the Dragon, Blue Ridge Pkwy etc. all would be verts.


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Beautiful car

Congrats on the purchase

Amazing car. Huge congrats, Charlie!

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Originally Posted by holyc0w

Beautiful car

Congrats on the purchase

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Thanks! :)

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Originally Posted by yura

Amazing car. Huge congrats, Charlie!

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Thanks! :thumbsup

@ Guy, Ayan and Jon....good points brought up... thanks Ayan for an in-depth explanation between the 987/981 and 997/991 :thumbsup I have to agree with you there.

@ Rob, perhaps someday you will find and get your E9x ///M :thumbsup

Updated a few interior pics on the first page (post #2)


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I let Botond drive my Porsche today. This was his first time in a Porsche let alone driving one ;)
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I was enjoying the view from my passenger's seat
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I'll let Botond post his thoughts on driving my turbo :drevil


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