Very curious to find out why you think ZHP Mafia should have its own forum.
Additionally, I hear a lot of BMW owners talk about ZHP owners as cultish. Why are we perceived to be that way? Is it warranted?
Finally, why is the ZHP one of the best BMW packages ever created?
The car: Best balance of power, handling and esthetics. Interior options a :drool:
Perception is in the eye of the beholder. I dunno why people think what they think. The ZHP is superior to every other e46. Period. Including M3.....when you take into account maintenance cost, tickets, etc...lol
You guys are going to have to school me on the ZHP love...I'm new to ZHP's but not to BMW's.
When I think of ZHP I think of Samir's legendary Red 4-Door ZHP, at the time the sickest sedan available as no ///M3 Sedan existed yet. Supercharged :)
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...330ii_ir_5.jpg
Samir's car was definitely a beast.
For some reason, I did not know Samir. Why? Where was I?
Samir was the partner of Sam of Rennsport. They mainly dealt with ASA superchargers back in 02 or 03 if my memory serves correctly. Back then I think you were not in the states here and wasn't active as you are now. Many companies have come and gone since then. Sam still is in the scene where he owns Auto Talent now and works on the higher end cars such as the exotics and I believe he is off the forums now and not active anymore.
The ZHP is just such a well-rounded package. Handling, acceleration, looks, driving experience, etc.
One thing I hear, though. ZHP owners are asses.
I love the car but I certainly don't run around telling everyone that their car is inferior. I guess there must be some ZHP owners who act that way.
Do you get the impression that we're elitists?
douchebaggery sucks in all forms. elitists are hollow shells of people.
Yeah. That's ridiculous. But not a ZHP, though? Lame.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gheybe
Agree. Period.Quote:
Originally Posted by mimalmo
Definitely agree.
Maybe we should save up and get CSL's.
Head over to M3Forum.net.
And start something.
In for lols and VF gayness.
:eeps:
WTF is this shit.
I want :eeps: allowed in here. Right the fuck now.
Something with our emoticons. We'll work on it.
Also, Gabe, let's try to keep the cussing down to a minimum. Haha. Don't make me edit your posts! LOL>
For me, the ZHP provides best balance between performance and practical, daily use - exotic/fun/powerful enough to be special, but not too over the top, so it can be practical as well...most cars have trouble mixing and balancing those 2 attributes - They're either Overkill with performance, (so not practical enough for a daily driven practical car), or too pedestrian (only practical and nothing special).
ZHP gives you best of both.
Exterior and performance upgrades. Plus the lack of tacky wood trim really makes it stand out without going to an M3.
Put simply, The car is the total package. Power,style,handling. It has it all. Its sex on 4 wheels. Its addicting ....I'm addicted.
Mine had me at first glance :)
For me its really the exterior look to start with. Every angle is simply perfect, clean lines, perfect wheels. Then you get to the Alcantara interior, steering wheel, the list goes on an on.
Oh yes, then you turn the key and fire up that sweet inline 6! Clutch down, 1st gear, and off we are, driving along incredible well. Then...........yes the first on ramp!! That is where I am in love. Hitting every apex better and better each and every day. It makes you a better driver. It really is The Ultimate Driving Machine. Period
Just wish there was an S54 option as well hehe :p
There are two words that explain what makes the 330i ZHP so special;
“pride”,& “respect”
Let me explain!
You can take the family to church on Sunday and you will get a respective able nod or comment from others. When you drive it to work on any day, you may have someone pass and give the node or thumbs up. If you volunteer to drive for lunch, someone will always comment. The same thing happens when you’re tagged for business trips or other work related activates. After work you can pile in the whole family or just a girlfriend or wife and you won’t hear any negativity. When Friday and Saturday night arrive if you’ll be respected on the street though; you may not be messed with because others really don’t know what may be hiding under the hood. The car competes well in car shows and you’ll find many people that haven’t a clue that these rarities even exist. It’s truly amazing the interest they spark with others. And the best of all; you can spend the weekend at any track driving school, earning respect from that guy in that very expensive car that had to give you the signal to pass.
And that is why, we all carry so much pride in our 330i option code ZHP Performance Packages’!
Personally, I like to let the car speak for itself, and it does that very well. Anyone who knows their cars knows what they are and will make an effort to start a conversation. For the others, I’m not a salesman and realize that some people just don’t get it and probably never will.
Although; the phrase came from Cadillac; the ZHP does it for me.
“Whenever I turn on my ZHP, it returns the favor”
3ZHPGUY
Good stuff, ZHP Guy. Well put.
^^ Ditto 3ZHPGUY. I will surely share this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus-SanDiego
What amazes me the most is, no matter how many of these cars I see they never loose my interest. There is just something about the e46 ZHP appearance that is timeless. I fully understand that its no Ferrari/Lambo etc. In fact, from a money standpoint this is the least expensive car Ive owned in a very long time (By a significant margin). Every time Someone posts a pic, shows a video or hell, even if I'm taking the recycle bin out of the garage I stop and go "whoa, this thing is sick". Kinda cool.....
Very trueQuote:
Originally Posted by Alphatek45
:)N
Haha. That's the "marcus ninja" smiley.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2M Auto Body
you should make me the official "lurker" smiley! lol
Dave, no kidding. I need to get you a personalized smiley.
:::lurk lurk lurk:::
lmk when its done! lol
Thought you guys would get a kick out of what people thought of a ZHP-specific forum back in 2004. I wonder what they think of us now.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62764
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80864
Here you go, Dave. I found one for you: :lurkQuote:
Originally Posted by 2M Auto Body
Wow, those people are ass holes. Why do they hate the ZHP so much? I mean it is only 10 more HP, but I really did it for the suspension adjustments.
And why do they use so many damn smiley faces?
Here's an interesting one. Look at the first comment in particular, about what BMW was saying in literature.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40493
Yeah......I think its really opinionated...and I do not concur its "just a check mark in an option box"
"It's an option. Period.
Any hype is just that. Hype.
If I had to guess, 5 years down the road, there will be a cadre of enthusiasts that seek out used ZHPs but that regular buyers will shun them. I would not expect to get a premium for having ZHP on your 330i and I would expect it will be more difficult to find a buyer."
Lol at that guy. They are clearly pissed because there 3 series is, in fact, inferior to our ZHP's. Oh well: http://i.imgur.com/ymn70.gif
^+1
What I thought when I read this thread title was "oh jeez, here we go again" with all the ZHP vs. all other 3 series discussions.
I do think ZHP owners that participate on forums are all, to some degree, thinking their car is better than any non-M series. We're all guilty of it, and there is no arguing that.
If it wasn't true, you probably wouldn't have gotten a ZHP for all the extra money you paid for you versus a regular 3.
Agree. Especially about the guilty part.Quote:
Originally Posted by az3579
I like mine better than an E46 M3. So I am even more guilty! :rockon
I like mine better than my 335. Guilty as charged.