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I'm a fan of the Brz. It has a 2.0T, LSD, 6 speed, it's light, and it should respond well to mods.
I want one..
The prices on that show were certainly inflated. A clean E46 M3 around here in the Bay Area will fetch around $18k, around 60k miles, SMG or 6 speed, with most options.
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I agree. Have you driven one? (I haven't) It seems we have very similar tastes regarding cars here.Originally Posted by Johal E32
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No sir. I haven't driven one, but my friends dad is strongly considering one as his next car.. He thinks very highly of me, so if I asked nicely he would probably let me take it for a spin. I don't exactly want a super powerful car, I just want a fun car that was plenty of GO. I am a BIG fan of Mini Cooper (specifically the S models), and VW GTI's.
Campieri
Making plans tomorrow to drive the FR-S for an over night period. Then I'll probably go see what the BRZ is about... is it really turbo charged? Thought they had the same powerplant...
From a GS3, this was sent.
Porsche 944 Turbo Build
One ride and you'll understand why most rocket scientists are German.
My ZHP Build 2004-2014 RIP
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They are the same car. It's basically a premium package frs. (nav/nicer seats/hids)
"Cam"
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2003 Imola Red/Alcantara 330i ZHP 6spd Sold
2002 TiAg/Black M3 6spd Sold
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Not turbocharged. Yet!
- Marc
Campieri
I know they are thw same, but I've heard that the BRZ is not as raw as the FR-S. And the seats in the Scion are snug. The shoulder support is genius. I would probably need to come down a waist size to be comfortable on long voyages though.
They are the same car. It's basically a premium package frs. (nav/nicer seats/hids)
From a GS3, this was sent.
Porsche 944 Turbo Build
One ride and you'll understand why most rocket scientists are German.
My ZHP Build 2004-2014 RIP
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^ its definitely the same engine in both cars though...
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My B.. I thought these cars came with a 2.0T.. I still want one!
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I'm probably in a unique position on this board in that I currently own both a BRZ and ZHP. The ZHP is my daily and I love it to death whereas the BRZ is a company development car that we use for new parts testing and advertising. To me they are very different cars.
If one is looking for a sporty fun DD that doesn't cost a ton to own and maintain I don't think many cars will beat the ZHP. It's obviously not the fastest car out there, but it has the total package of looks, handling, style and fun to drive factor that make it a joy to get into every day.
The BRZ is HYPER responsive. I owe a race prepped 92 Miata, time trial prepped 700 whp Subaru WRX and have owned many other very potent performance cars and I can say without a doubt that the BRZ in almost stock form is more responsive and quick to inputs that any of these. I love my Miata and always have...until I took the BRZ out on track for a weekend of fun. I was floored at how amazing it was to drive on track. It really makes the Miata feel like a boat if that is possible.
For a daily the BRZ is a bit uncomfortable and cheap. The interior is visually interesting looking, but is made of very cheap plastics. It is meant to be inexpensive and excels in this aspect. Ultimately I would choose both. The ZHP for daily and the BRZ for a weekend fun car.
A keen observer will see the BRZ in the back ground of this picture.
And the BRZ.
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