Derbo's ZHP [Archive] - Page 2 - BMW E46 330 ZHP For Sale Forum

derbo

06-18-2012, 07:46 PM

parts alone is close to $1100 with my discount. I ordered my flywheel from Autohauz since it was $552 vs my discounted oem flywheel of $800ish

Main stuff is Clutch/Flywheel which was the most expensive part. Got a new guibo disc, rear main seal gaskets, new pivot pin, clutch spring clip, all the bushings for the shifter and Z3M shifter so its a bit shorter. I'm ordering a clutch delay valve too but it wont be in here in time for a friday installation. Clutch job shouldn't take more than 4-5hrs at work. :D

Then next week I'll finally do my oil filter gasket housing and the oil seperator system.

nike001

06-19-2012, 01:49 PM

Your car should have a CDV stock, no?

derbo

06-19-2012, 02:00 PM

Sorry I meant delete CDV :)

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derbo

06-27-2012, 11:55 PM

Some updates. I did my clutch and found the clutch disc was at .99mm of pad left and the flywheel has abnormal play. I also saw my rear main seal was also starting to go. Luckily I ordered them all!

I also installed new shifter bushings and a z3m shift lever. I had to grind the ends of the lever to get it to fit with the selector rod but it wasn't that hard to sand down. Initial impressions is that the shifts are definitely with no play but the shifter does sit a bit offset to the passenger for some reason. Overall, it was a good purchase. I had to replace my zhp shifter since the ball on the lever was getting worn and I didn't like the play in it. The bottom lever is definitely lot longer than a zhp one!

Here are some pics to go along with the update.

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derbo

07-02-2012, 08:43 PM

Thanks to this place I ended up fiddling with an Vista Laptop and setting up NCSexpert to work! I'm trying to get the GT1 to communicate with the OBD cable but it's not finding it. :(

Anyways I ended up changing these settings on my car

ALSZ
[X]BLINKIMPULS_CRASHBLK Crash warning blinker impulse speed. wert_04
[X]BLINKIMPULS_WARNBLK Hazard lights impulse speed. wert_04
[X]FL_UND_NSW_NICHT_GLEICHZ Fog lights turn off when high beams are on. nicht_aktiv
[X]SIDEMARKER_US US mode sidemarker (parking lights with headlights) nicht_aktiv
[X]PWM_WERT2_FL_BIXENON wert_01=bixenon and halogen together. wert_01

GM5
[X]KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_FB Comfort close remote – vert top, sunroof aktiv

IHK
[X]DISPLAYANZEIGE_HIGH Display “HIGH” instead of number on hottest setting. aktiv
[X]DISPLAYANZEIGE_LOW Display “LOW” instead of number on coolest setting. aktiv

EWS
[X]PARK/NEUTRAL_EINGANG Start in park/neutral only. nicht_aktiv

Hornung418

07-02-2012, 08:58 PM

What are the crash warning blinkers?? Hazards under heavy breaking? If so I want that!!

Crestwood1001

07-02-2012, 10:06 PM

^Sounds like it, iv never seen that on a car personally, cool idea but I wonder how it would work out in normal driving situations givin that most drivers here would not know what was going on

derbo

07-03-2012, 07:55 AM

What are the crash warning blinkers?? Hazards under heavy breaking? If so I want that!!

There is another setting to activate crash warning blinkers. In the event of a crash, the hazards go on. VW have this feature I believe as well. I'm not willing to test if it works LOL. I noticed another setting that would activate interior lights in event of a crash as well.

danewilson77

07-03-2012, 09:43 AM

There is another setting to activate crash warning blinkers. In the event of a crash, the hazards go on. VW have this feature I believe as well. I'm not willing to test if it works LOL. I noticed another setting that would activate interior lights in event of a crash as well.

I tested this. It works.

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derbo

07-04-2012, 11:39 AM

I hope you don't mean crashed and it worked. That would make me sad to hear your car had that tested.

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danewilson77

07-04-2012, 11:46 AM

I hope you don't mean crashed and it worked. That would make me sad to hear your car had that tested.

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Yup. My old one....note hazards are flashing....lol.

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Silver%20Bimmer/2010-07-07064336.jpg

Before...FML.

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Silver%20Bimmer/DSC02725sz1200.jpg

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derbo

07-04-2012, 11:52 AM

Poor car RIP. I am relief it isn't your red clean one. :)

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danewilson77

07-04-2012, 11:54 AM

Poor car RIP. I am relief it isn't your red clean one. :)

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Lol...no kidding.

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BimmerWill

07-04-2012, 12:36 PM

Feel like that was forever ago Dane...i remember that infamous day...she was my cars dark twin :(...on another note does anyone know what the % reduction is with the Z3M shifter? Sorry to thread jack but im looking to get a short throw and am browsing around for the best option.

derbo

07-04-2012, 12:56 PM

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I'm not sure the percentage difference but it is definitely shorter. you can tell by the length of the rod underneath the ball is longer on the z3m lever. I find myself overthrowing my 3rd shifts cause I'm not used to the short throws quite just yet. The feel of the shifting has a bit more notch to it but that was the exact feel I was looking for.

I wanted to remove the slop in my shifter. Since the lever ball is made out of plastic, the ball wears out and introduces play. I figured I might as well get a z3m lever if I am replacing the shift lever. Also I replaced all the rubber seals, the white ball housing, and the clips as well.

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derbo

07-06-2012, 11:17 PM

Got my oil filter housing gasket and oil separator finally done! Unfortunately I didn't have time this week and laguna is this Sunday. Had a tech help me out and do the work.

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derbo

07-08-2012, 09:56 PM

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Had an awesome day at Laguna Seca. Will work on the go pro video stuff tomorrow if I have time!
Goodnight!

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derbo

07-09-2012, 10:18 AM

http://www.gotbluemilk.com/web120708/717/index.html

Pics are up from the local photographer! :)

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johnrando

07-09-2012, 10:57 AM

Car looks good!

derbo

07-10-2012, 09:53 PM

Thanks John!

Been working on getting a GT1 working on a laptop that I just started fiddling with the gopro videos I got from track day. Hope to edit some of those by this weekend.

derbo

07-11-2012, 11:54 AM

bcleaver

07-11-2012, 05:36 PM

So awesome. I probably have 1000+ laps on that course in the GT* ps3 series and enjoyed 'driving' along while you were racing. Great lap. Car sounds great

derbo

07-11-2012, 11:44 PM

Thanks man! Yea been playing laguna seca since 1999!! when GT1 first came out haha. One of my all time favorite tracks! Glad its local to me.

here are a few pics from my buddy! You can see the various GoPro Placements. I have the videos just havent had the time to fiddle with them yet. :)

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/314822_10151033888388482_76234370_n.jpg

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/380586_10151033888433482_861652819_n.jpg

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/402777_10151033888668482_552783576_n.jpg

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/426953_10151033888528482_1308659239_n.jpg

johnrando

07-12-2012, 08:45 AM

Great video, fun to watch. Car really sounds good!

BimmerWill

07-12-2012, 10:38 AM

Where did you pick up the z3m shifter? Great vid btw!

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derbo

07-12-2012, 08:01 PM

Thanks John!

Will, it's a factory oem z3m shift lever. You can order it at any dealership or online. It shortens the throw enough but not as much as real aftermarket short shifters.

I recommend anyone to refresh their shifter seals and a new lever for a more solid feel to the car. It's less than $70 to do it.

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Johal E32

07-12-2012, 08:17 PM

derbo

07-12-2012, 08:49 PM

wow, sweet build!

My shifter in the 323i has seen better days, and the throws are too long imo.

I know the p/n for the z3 shifter, but can you post part numbers for all the bushings and stuff to make the shifter like new again, please and thanks!

[X]Shift Lever Bearing 25 11 1 220 600
[X]Plastic washer 25 11 1 220 439 x4
[X]Securing Clip 25 11 7 571 899 x2
[X]Bearing Oval 25 11 7 519 670 x2
[X]Bearing Bolt 25 11 7 529 078
[X]Bearing Bolt 25 11 7 529 079
[X]Z3M Shift Lever 25 11 7 527 254
[X]Bearing 25 11 1 222 015

I'm not sure if the 5spd is different or not from the 6spd. I also want to put out a note that the 5spd driveshaft does hit the Z3M shifter. It does not hit the ZHP shift lever though!

but It's these parts

https://img.skitch.com/20120713-gj93wd3hy6e8istr63yb886std.png

derbo

07-13-2012, 07:46 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLwyJMOzUb8&feature=g-upl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyMthzxb_B8&feature=g-upl

couple more relative unedited videos

Johal E32

07-15-2012, 08:38 PM

[X]Shift Lever Bearing 25 11 1 220 600
[X]Plastic washer 25 11 1 220 439 x4
[X]Securing Clip 25 11 7 571 899 x2
[X]Bearing Oval 25 11 7 519 670 x2
[X]Bearing Bolt 25 11 7 529 078
[X]Bearing Bolt 25 11 7 529 079
[X]Z3M Shift Lever 25 11 7 527 254
[X]Bearing 25 11 1 222 015

I'm not sure if the 5spd is different or not from the 6spd. I also want to put out a note that the 5spd driveshaft does hit the Z3M shifter. It does not hit the ZHP shift lever though!

but It's these parts

https://img.skitch.com/20120713-gj93wd3hy6e8istr63yb886std.png

thank you so much! I think you are right about the z3 shifter, I'm going it play it safe and get a 545i shifter

cakM3

07-16-2012, 02:22 AM

[X]Shift Lever Bearing 25 11 1 220 600
[X]Plastic washer 25 11 1 220 439 x4
[X]Securing Clip 25 11 7 571 899 x2
[X]Bearing Oval 25 11 7 519 670 x2
[X]Bearing Bolt 25 11 7 529 078
[X]Bearing Bolt 25 11 7 529 079
[X]Z3M Shift Lever 25 11 7 527 254
[X]Bearing 25 11 1 222 015

I'm not sure if the 5spd is different or not from the 6spd. I also want to put out a note that the 5spd driveshaft does hit the Z3M shifter. It does not hit the ZHP shift lever though!

but It's these parts

https://img.skitch.com/20120713-gj93wd3hy6e8istr63yb886std.png

Derek,

Does the Z3M shifter make that much of a difference?

I know when I swapped out my M3 shifter for a 330d shifter it made a noticeable difference :)

derbo

07-16-2012, 07:29 AM

Charlie,

I'm unsure what the difference between the 330d and the Z3M shifter is. I do know that the ZHP uses a shift lever that doesn't have a bend in it. The other shift levers in the E46 family seems to have bends in the shifter.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5110/5593374665_b26640f5ea_b.jpg

Comparison to the BMW SSK vs the ZHP (straight one).

The Z3M shifter is relatively straight and works similarly to the ZHP one. I do know the 545i shifter has a longer throw and isn't a short shifter to the ZHP lever. M3 levers are longer throw than a ZHP so I'm not sure where it stands vs the 330d. LOL.

I wish I had a 330d lever to compare it with.

cakM3

07-16-2012, 08:36 AM

Derek,

I got a picture of both the BMW Performance SSK shifter, which is pretty much the same as the 330d shifter. Anyway I got both here :thumbsup

BMW Performance SSK
http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/macdctr/BMWPerformanceSSK01.jpg
http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/macdctr/BMWPerformanceSSK02.jpg
http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/macdctr/BMWPerformanceSSK03.jpg

330D shifter - euro p/n: 25-11-7-527-259 $56.00

http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/macdctr/330dshifter.jpg

I have this part on order so I will be doing a review of this when I get this installed. It works very well with the ///M so I'm guessing it will give me what I am looking for...:)

bcleaver

07-16-2012, 05:14 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLwyJMOzUb8&feature=g-upl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyMthzxb_B8&feature=g-upl

couple more relative unedited videos

Really nice looking lap. Very smooth inputs and looks quick.

derbo

07-16-2012, 07:19 PM

Thanks! I know there is definitely more room to grow but I was consistently in the 1:51.xx (pending traffic) and the fastest lap was 1:50.15. I see a few places where I could brake later and on the gas earlier. Next time probably in october, I'll do it again see if I can learn anything new and get better times. I really hope to break into 1:49 zone.

derbo

07-19-2012, 04:48 PM

https://img.skitch.com/20120720-k1tnrdms8dhmedtc8tn7q1ga7u.png

:D

danewilson77

07-19-2012, 06:50 PM

Derbo > car is badass.

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derbo

07-21-2012, 10:51 AM

thank you sir. Hoping to get a few new toys on it soon :roundel

derbo

07-21-2012, 11:49 PM

5179

Hmmmmm.

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derbo

08-09-2012, 11:17 PM

Got a detail done and the car looks amazing! I love the barrels of the rims are now clean!!

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cakM3

08-10-2012, 04:32 AM

Derek,

It's good you got pics because unfortunately they won't stay this clean long....;)

derbo

08-10-2012, 07:16 AM

Derek,

It's good you got pics because unfortunately they won't stay this clean long....;)

Seriously....I bet by end of this weekend it will be dirty again :(

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cakM3

08-10-2012, 08:12 AM

Derek,

It happens to me all the time but BP will always tell me that my ZHP looks better than his as if I recently detailed mine. Keeping our cars clean is a never-ending battle. I always take in the moments right after cleaning my cars....take pics so that I can enjoy them long after the car gets dirty again....;)

Of course.... my ///M stays cleaner much longer than my ZHP does but that's because I'm driving my ZHP all the time...

derbo

08-10-2012, 08:18 AM

And considering my car is black.. it's already dirty now even in the garage. LOL

cakM3

08-10-2012, 08:46 AM

Been there... done that....

I used to have an 1985.5 Mustang SVO in black and grey cloth interior. Was an awesome car but way too much work to keep her clean. I will admit there's nothing like a beautifully clean and detailed black car though! It was just way too much work for what I had wanted to do.....

johnrando

08-10-2012, 11:27 AM

And considering my car is black.. it's already dirty now even in the garage. LOL

So true, lol. Looks good.

cakM3

08-10-2012, 12:16 PM

If you happen to keep your ride outside full time, mother nature doesn't help if you want to keep her clean.....it's a constant battle and with a black car... a constant eyesore...but I will add that you have one sexy looking ride Derek :thumbsup

derbo

08-11-2012, 01:45 PM

thanks for the comments guys!

It won't be clean for long. Trackdays tend to get the car quite dirty. It's been awhile since I've seen my car clean like this.

Few upgrades coming soon before next trackday. :shh

Gordo_GT

08-14-2012, 10:36 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-google&v=tLxFMJsi92A&sns=fb&nomobile=1

I ended up uploading a short video of my bumper cam view. the gruppem intake sounds good!

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I was listening to the video with my headphones and the car sounds great. It really brought back flashbacks of Gran Turismo and it was cool seeing how you negotiated the turns. Your driving is really good.

derbo

08-19-2012, 06:01 PM

I'm itching to go again. 5488
Car looks so plain at work.

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derbo

08-20-2012, 11:07 PM

I ended up finding out that the Harry's Laptimer app can overlay data to the gopro videos with a little fiddling. This is great news because I can have a video with information overlaid on top that can help me improve my laptimes! Only thing sucks is that its only in 480p :(

Behold, the Video with overlay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDwc-benMqo

derbo

08-21-2012, 09:13 PM

https://img.skitch.com/20120822-twuk4p887f9c9sxqyyrtdgb7um.png

:eeps

Hornung418

08-21-2012, 09:19 PM

17x8.5 ET35 ARC-8s???

Pip

08-21-2012, 10:13 PM

How many wheels do you have?!?! They all look great and serve a purpose I'm sure.

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derbo

08-22-2012, 10:21 PM

I have total of three sets :). The style 42s were off my coworkers s/c e36 m3. I just wanted to try them for fun. :)

One set is going away. And I may get another set of wheels for daily :)

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derbo

08-22-2012, 10:24 PM

17x8.5 ET35 ARC-8s???

Where is this 35 offset rim?!

I ordered 17x8.5 et 40. It's about the same as my rpf1 18x8.5et40. It's the safe rim to order for clearance issues with my brake ducts

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Pip

08-22-2012, 10:38 PM

derbo

08-22-2012, 10:44 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkXIPXVMdzI

Thought I retroactively fix my Sears Point one too :)

And Sean, you got me wanting to get the Eurocharged Tune now. :X

nike001

08-23-2012, 09:59 AM

Where is this 35 offset rim?!

I ordered 17x8.5 et 40. It's about the same as my rpf1 18x8.5et40. It's the safe rim to order for clearance issues with my brake ducts

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Give me your rpf1's :D

derbo

08-23-2012, 08:37 PM

Give me your rpf1's :D

My cousin called dibs on it and he has a black ZHP too. :facepalm It will be like looking at my old look when he drives by LOL.

derbo

08-26-2012, 09:55 AM

waiting on tires, couldn't wait to test fit :)

http://i.imgur.com/xZUFTsKl.jpg

danewilson77

08-26-2012, 10:10 AM

:drool

Gordo_GT

08-26-2012, 10:14 AM

^ looks good

johnrando

08-26-2012, 09:15 PM

Oh man those look good!

derbo

08-27-2012, 11:07 PM

I can't wait till I get tires!

derbo

08-31-2012, 09:57 PM

http://i.imgur.com/CpSwqAVl.jpg

:excited

derbo

08-31-2012, 10:21 PM

Car doesn't look too bad with the wheels.

http://i.imgur.com/w3eAYWFl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/I4NB3DIl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/JFH7pU7l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Hyce1M0l.jpg

The more I look at these pics with the bmw centercaps the more I don't like them with the bmw center caps. I will go back to the APEX center caps tomorrow. Its a shame the pics were blurry from the shop. It looked fine on the iphone! lol

derbo

09-02-2012, 11:59 AM

Before:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/309092_10150341262123482_762918481_8137620_1711401 317_n.jpg

After:

http://i.imgur.com/3XgaM6ul.jpg

i put back on the APEX center caps since the BMW ones were driving me crazy for some reason.

Gordo_GT

09-02-2012, 01:44 PM

The Apex ones blend in better. The color of the wheels don't suit the BMW caps.

derbo

09-02-2012, 01:51 PM

The Apex ones blend in better. The color of the wheels don't suit the BMW caps.

Exactly! The silver ones probably would blend in better with them.

derbo

09-03-2012, 11:55 AM

Finally removed the CDV. For some reason I was under the impression that the valve needed to be replaced with an unrestricted piece. Turns out all you need to do is remove the valve and reconnect the line. I did a brake flush and clutch bleed as well.

5691

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derbo

09-04-2012, 03:28 PM

Bimmerworld visiting our BMW center since they are in town this weekend for Laguna Seca. 5703

Race bug is biting...

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HokieZHP

09-05-2012, 08:49 AM

How much of a difference did you notice with the CDV removed? I've been debating doing this for some time now.

danewilson77

09-05-2012, 08:52 AM

How much of a difference did you notice with the CDV removed? I've been debating doing this for some time now.

No need to debate. It's def worth it.

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M3TA5IN

09-05-2012, 09:11 AM

No need to debate. It's def worth it.

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Fact

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wertyu78

09-05-2012, 09:57 AM

came quite fast from florida. all noise no go!

https://img.skitch.com/20120212-the9n2udrjacsgn5gtn3dsy7r4.png

I have a simota Gruppe M rep. I watched some of your videos on youtube and the Gruppe M sounds much louder than my already loud Rep. How could that be with the same shape, material, and filter?

HokieZHP

09-05-2012, 12:34 PM

I want a Gruppe so badly! If anyone knows of one let me know!

How do you like yours Derbo?

Newjack

09-05-2012, 01:00 PM

How much of a difference did you notice with the CDV removed? I've been debating doing this for some time now.

I removed mine at SIGFest. Took it for a spin after the removal. The whole time I'm thinking to myself, why the fuck was the on the car? It feels so much better now.

echo46

09-05-2012, 01:58 PM

I have to get rid of m ine too, just lazy.

danewilson77

09-05-2012, 02:41 PM

I have to get rid of m ine too, just lazy.

Ironman. Lazy.

Does.not.compute.

Return.syntax.error.

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derbo

09-05-2012, 09:33 PM

I have a simote Gruppe M rep. I watched some of your videos on youtube and the Gruppe M sounds much louder than my already loud Rep. How could that be with the same shape, material, and filter?

You have a replica means it isn't an exact copy. There maybe minor differences to cause that change? I never heard a Simota intake in person before so I wouldn't be able to tell you. Sorry bud.

I want a Gruppe so badly! If anyone knows of one let me know!

How do you like yours Derbo?

It's a nice intake. It could do away with the carbon kevlar look to it but I like the noise it makes. Any "HP" gain is a plus. One problem I noticed is the rubber trim piece sits on the metal bracket that bolts up to the headlights. It tends to grind away at the rubber trim over time. That is nothing more than a comestic issue.

CDV is the best thing i've removed. Best part of the mod was that it was FREE!! Clutch is more direct and it feels like I can chirp 2nd with my track tire setup which would've never been able to do with the CDV in. I'm very happy with deleting it. I don't really see any downfall in removing it if you know how to drive stick on any other car.

Overall setup of the car feels fantastic. The new dunlops are getting some miles on time before I start taking them out for a more spirited drive. The car is getting to the point where it's a great daily driver and only maintenance is left to upkeep. I think the only thing left I could possible do, would be a LSD. Hopefully next year.

derbo

09-12-2012, 08:29 AM

Took a quick pic while at work.

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Hornung418

09-12-2012, 08:39 AM

Car looks so dope.

johnrando

09-12-2012, 08:49 AM

:like

jayjay_dee

09-12-2012, 09:01 AM

:like

+100

derbo

09-12-2012, 08:06 PM

thanks guys. Hopefully I can get the car cleaned up and get some real pictures.

Car mods will come to a halt while I get squared away at the new job. ASIC Design is no joke..

bcleaver

09-13-2012, 06:21 PM

Looking great man.

BRGcoopahS

09-13-2012, 06:35 PM

Car looks so dope.

Took the words right outta my mouth.

Pip

09-13-2012, 06:56 PM

No kidding man. Have you just been working at the dealer while finishing up engineering school or something?

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derbo

09-13-2012, 09:01 PM

Thanks guys :)

No kidding man. Have you just been working at the dealer while finishing up engineering school or something?

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I actually worked at the dealership while I was in college for electrical engineering. I actually made the mistake not to intern while in college and worked at bmw for the perks. That was a mistake that ultimately made it hard for myself to market to the EE field. I finally found an internship willing to take me on after 2 years of graduating. Now I am back in my field doing ASIC Design Engineer. :)

Hopefully this means in a year or two = new daily car. This means ZHP will have less compromises for street-ability. :)

Pip

09-18-2012, 07:02 PM

derbo

09-18-2012, 07:59 PM

Congrats Derbo. I still need to figure out what I want to do. I have a background in engineering and MBA but have since gotten into supply chain and dabbled in product marketing. Sorry to thread jack but it's cool to find people in similar areas. I just use ASIC in the SSD's we sell.

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Thanks man. I'm working for a company that does design services so I am training to be part of the backend team.

I want to buy so many parts but it will have to wait at least 6 months..

derbo

11-23-2012, 10:14 PM

It's been awhile since I've updated this thread. Nothing much has happened to the car since Sept. It's just been used as a workhorse taking me back from work to home and so forth.

I just got back from a Black Friday Bobs Donut Buttonwillow event!

Here is just a shot of the BMW while I take a look at my GoPro videos. I wasn't too happy with the Dunlops as they overheated quite fast as I picked up the pace but they were definitely managable. I like my RE11s better, but for half the cost the dunlops are pretty damn good!

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4466/img2639xd.jpg

az3579

11-24-2012, 10:18 AM

I am SO jelly that you guys can have track events year 'round. No more events here for the winter. :(
I'm loving those wheels. They're really growing on me.

derbo

11-24-2012, 11:19 AM

It is definitely interesting as there will be Dec events too. I am done for the rest of the year and look forward to maybe Feb/March to go again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztl6BAQsS_0&feature=plcp

Here is my fastest lap. Oddly it was in the morning sessions hit a personal best of 2:08.xx.

Previously time a year ago was 2:12 so I'm stoked I past the 2:10 barrier.

extra footage: One session I decided to chase my buddy in his 540i m-sport and this was the result of his crazy ass..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c-Wez39pAA

derbo

11-29-2012, 03:31 PM

I wish I took more pics, but I was too tired and sleeping during sessions. Can't wait to go again, but it will have to be next year around feb/march.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9427/img2640ry.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img651/2494/img2638jk.jpg

Torxuvin

11-29-2012, 05:48 PM

Great looking car. I love those wheels on it.

derbo

12-10-2012, 11:48 PM

Thanks! The Apex wheels have definitely grown on me alot.

I've been building up a to buy list..

Bimmerworld bulletnose wheelstuds
Tuning: Eurocharge/AA/Shark
LSD 3.64 Performancegearing.com (need new diff mounts replaced anyways....LOL)
Carbotech XP12/XP10 step up for Brakes

These are the lighter side of things. Major upgrades I want to do is the S54 swap and new UUC TSE3 replacement... hmm. :eeps

Rovert

12-11-2012, 12:06 AM

I can't believe I watched the whole thing.... :eeps

You use the space on the track nicely. Your lines are clean and I can hear it in the engine because there is not much fiddling/readjusting so you now the track well! Your buddy's 540i is movin' for such a heavy vehicle! It looks like it's got just a tad more high end in the long straights but it's weight sure shows when you have to brake early from extreme high-speed so the 3 and the 5 doesn't mate into a 4. :shifty His lines aren't as wide as yours, but I'm not sure what his car is doing. He likes to keep it tighter and not use the whole width of the track. I can see it in the way his suspension loads in the double corners/chicanes/S bends, he's really working that heavy beast!

Your engine sounds different! Or is it just a lot better sounding when on the ground...I'll have to try that and open my door, stick my head out the window while at WOT being careful not to slice my head off by the door. :biggrin

LivesNearCostco

12-12-2012, 11:33 PM

Derek, the 540i seems to smoke the inside (right) rear tire every time it exits the buttonhook. Maybe that's what my car is doing when it feels like the rear wheel is hopping?

Rovert

12-12-2012, 11:42 PM

Good ol' open diff!! :D The 540i has 322ft-lbs of torque and when traction control is off, the torque just wants to spin that inside wheel!!

derbo

12-14-2012, 08:30 AM

Derek, the 540i seems to smoke the inside (right) rear tire every time it exits the buttonhook. Maybe that's what my car is doing when it feels like the rear wheel is hopping?

I do this all the time but I ease my throttle in so I don't waste one tire. LOL. LSD is on the list.

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derbo

12-14-2012, 08:31 AM

Good ol' open diff!! :D The 540i has 322ft-lbs of torque and when traction control is off, the torque just wants to spin that inside wheel!!

He loves stepping on the car. LOL. That's how he wasted RE11 tires at $310 a pop. Funny thing is from a dig, the zhp keeps up until top of 3rd where the 540i slowly walks away. Luckily I'm lighter and out corner it ;)

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Rovert

12-14-2012, 08:49 AM

Yeah...my dad has a 540i and when I drive it, it just feel so buttery smooth at "rocketship" mode. Friends are amazed how quick a 540 is especially with that V8 growl. When my dad drives my car he thinks the 330's acceleration feels the same, if not more than his 540. It's an awesome road trip car. When I'm on the highway moving at 70MPH though...a quick WOT and you're moving into the 100+ range really quick. My little 330 wouldn't be able to keep up with that.

But I do fall asleep in the back of the E39 like a baby on road trips without the sucking the thumb part. :P

Torxuvin

12-14-2012, 09:47 AM

derbo

12-16-2012, 07:07 PM

The e39 is my favorite 5 series. The one that started the whole angel eyes craze haha.

They accelerate very similar to a 330i on the freeway but once in 4th gear the 540i starts to walk away on the straight. I've sat in it while he threw the car around at the track and I must say he has to throw it around in order to get it to corner. He is good at it and it makes a nervous but exhilarating ride as a passenger. As a passenger in my car, I'm too consistent and it seems boring to them ha.

Rovert,

The videos all at the bumper position are all the same mods as far as sound/power-wise. I do tend to go a lot wider than my buddy does but I'm not sure that's always the quickest. It's definitely fun to chase him once in awhile but he sure makes my front end dirty!

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Rovert

12-16-2012, 08:14 PM

Haha...gotcha. Your car just sounds so nice and meaty...different than what mine sounds like from inside!

I have a feeling you're taking it tighter because you don't have the power to need to go that far out. The more furious the acceleration and weight...the wider line you need. I can take everything with squiggly lines with my E46...but when I drive my dad's E39, everything just seems to be a little bit wider. When I drive my mom's minivan....well all h#LL breaks loose and since it's AWD...it's pretty fun in the corners. LOL.

You're consistent with your experience and subconscious smoothness which means any panic situation on the street you'll react to in the best possible way your car can handle. :) The smoother you are the faster you are! My driving instructors pounded me on being smooth when I first learned how to drive good many many years ago. Now I can't be rough even if I try....but I can still throw my car around for style points! LOL

derbo

12-19-2012, 12:09 AM

Rovert

12-19-2012, 12:34 AM

It sure is...You've learned the dynamics of vehicle balance. That plays an important role in learning how to drift. Drift is not about pulling the e-brake and counter steering like so many young ones think, ending themselves on a curb or on a light post. You've got to know where your vehicles weight is going and how fast it is shifting to create that inertia to throw the vehicle's limits past the traction circle without overstepping them so much that it's 100% unrecoverable.

With your consistency I know you'd do awesome! I think that learning how to slide the rear end out is more easier with an LSD for sure. My friend's M3 can pull out of a slide really nice and smoothly. Get on the throttle and smoothly squeeze or release and you've got controllable loss of rear traction. Our open diff'ed non M's are rough! It takes a very wet/slippery surface to mask that one tire has just regained grip while the other is fighting to hold a slide. LOL. A really cool thing to try is driving a FWD car in the snow with snow tires on the front and all seasons in the back. You can just flick the steering wheel more than the rears can hold traction and you're drifting! Hit the throttle and the front will stay in front of the rear! So easy...hours of fun! Hahaha.

I remember spending time at Thunderbird Raceway in Phoenix on a skid pad using CTS sedans rigged with hydraulic training wheels:
http://imageshack.us/a/img264/7449/bondurantschool75oj0.jpg

Holy man that was a ride. I had way too much playing "on ice" when I was in Arizona. LOL.

The instructor had this at his control in the car:
http://imageshack.us/a/img140/1427/bondurantschool73rh4.jpg

Then I ended up doing this to the rear tire:
http://imageshack.us/a/img264/3773/bondurantschool72ng8.jpg

Can we rig something up like that for our car to play with? LOL

derbo

12-19-2012, 12:38 AM

what exactly does this hydraulic wheel do?

Rovert

12-19-2012, 01:07 AM

derbo

12-19-2012, 11:56 AM

Does exactly what you would feel on any surface but from perfectly dry to complete ice. It raises the chassis from the suspension thus lowering traction on the corner that it's attached to. Lift the rears up to full height and boy, it doesn't matter how good you are...you're going for a ride and your front tires which aren't lifted are going to become the base of the pendulum. LOL. Lifting it up maybe 10% might simulate rain. Going to 50% may simulate snow/ice. Anything higher and it's just for fun...it's like half the car is in space. It's just a training tool that advanced driver training schools have to teach you the art of controlling an out of control vehicle.

Dang I love to participate in this!!! I think the main portion I want to learn is how to correct a spin in the event the steering wheel goes over 1.5turns. The main concern I believe is that I have no experience a full lock to lock correction in this car and I would like to practice the spin corrections. Perhaps the next skidpad day, I will have to try it out.

I'm getting tired of switching to longer bolts for the 12mm spacers every track day. I ordered some lugnuts for the car but still deciding on which wheelstuds to purchase.
Bimmerworld 82mm Bulletnose
TurnerMotosport 75mm Studs.

Hmmm

Rovert

12-19-2012, 03:31 PM

Well if you are in an uncontrollable spin and have the ability to lock the brakes, doing that prior to knowing what line your car will pick will at least give you a predictable line of "carnage" whether it's straight ahead on the track or angled off straight into the field of grass. :D Once you've slowed down then you will have to have quick steering work and unlocking the brakes to direct the spin somewhere else! Good luck with that. LOL

Hermes

12-20-2012, 03:42 PM

continuing from the other thread:

I place my order for an armrest delete center console, track rats begin the jealousy...

Oh I am jealous. I raise my armrest and it keeps falling down during hard braking. But I use that armrest during daily driving..so it has to stay.

I had a moment of genius...

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/D6F4FA45-47A8-4975-BB3B-F66287270E23-3161-000004513F8A0C61.jpg

you're welcome ;)

danewilson77

12-20-2012, 03:48 PM

continuing from the other thread:

I had a moment of genius...

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/D6F4FA45-47A8-4975-BB3B-F66287270E23-3161-000004513F8A0C61.jpg

you're welcome ;)

Lol. Nice.

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derbo

12-20-2012, 06:16 PM

Its definitely a solution! I'll be sure to try this out. The other option was to just ultimately remove it during track preparation :)

Thanks JP

Rovert

12-20-2012, 11:55 PM

^ Weight savings FTW!

LivesNearCostco

12-21-2012, 11:29 AM

I have the BimmerWorld 75mm "standard" or "street" wheelstuds. They make wheel changes so much easier. Can support up to 12mm spacers but I found with 5mm spacer on front, you have to take a little care when hand starting each lug nut before spinning them on with the impact wrench. If I had a 12mm spacer it would be even more work to start each lug nut. If you don't mind studs sticking out a little more or think you might ever want at 15mm or 20mm spacer, I suggest go with the 82mm ones. Note that BimmerWorld 82mm studs don't have a hex end so you need to lock two nuts together to tighten each stud (with red thread locker).

I'm getting tired of switching to longer bolts for the 12mm spacers every track day. I ordered some lugnuts for the car but still deciding on which wheelstuds to purchase.
Bimmerworld 82mm Bulletnose
TurnerMotosport 75mm Studs.

Hmmm

Vas

12-21-2012, 04:40 PM

A bolt to stud conversion should be done on any car that sees track time imo. It makes swapping wheels/tires that much easier.

derbo

12-21-2012, 09:42 PM

I have the BimmerWorld 75mm "standard" or "street" wheelstuds. They make wheel changes so much easier. Can support up to 12mm spacers but I found with 5mm spacer on front, you have to take a little care when hand starting each lug nut before spinning them on with the impact wrench. If I had a 12mm spacer it would be even more work to start each lug nut. If you don't mind studs sticking out a little more or think you might ever want at 15mm or 20mm spacer, I suggest go with the 82mm ones. Note that BimmerWorld 82mm studs don't have a hex end so you need to lock two nuts together to tighten each stud (with red thread locker).

Thanks bud. Yea I'm definitely leaning towards the bimmerworld ones. He bullet nose looks a lot better and the 82mm gives a little more room since my stock wheels use 12.5mm spacer in the front.

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derbo

01-08-2013, 03:06 PM

2013 going to have some plans! At least tentative plans..I hope I follow through with the last one..

Major Goals:

Jan 2013 Wheel stud Conversion

March-April 2013 - LSD

Summer - Fall 2013 - S54 Swap

and some other maybes

4300k AE
ZKW Lense Retrofit
EuroCharge Tune (really depends on S54 swap)
SS Pistons for the 135i Calipers
Upgrade Brake pads to XP12 and XP10 (stronger)

Vas

01-08-2013, 03:55 PM

Best get to work

Torxuvin

01-08-2013, 06:03 PM

Cheering for you. That's a healthy list.

derbo

01-08-2013, 10:06 PM

Thanks!

LSD and Wheel stud conversion is a 100% done deal for sure. The S54 swap really depends if I can find a donor vehicle.

az3579

01-09-2013, 04:34 PM

You can always find a donor vehicle. That's never the question. The more appropriate question is if you've got the $$. :biggrin

Johal E32

01-09-2013, 05:20 PM

Are you going with a E46 M3 diff (and subframe)?

derbo

01-09-2013, 06:02 PM

You can always find a donor vehicle. That's never the question. The more appropriate question is if you've got the $$. :biggrin

Money is there. It's more of time/space to do it. Plus a good donor vechicle..low mileage and mostly intact in the area is probably going to cost more too..

derbo

01-09-2013, 06:02 PM

Are you going with a E46 M3 diff (and subframe)?

I have not decided if i want to do M3 rear end or not yet. Ideally I would like to have a 3.64 performance gearing LSD instead but if i find a nice clean donor car, who is to stop me from using the m3 everything...

wertyu78

01-09-2013, 07:30 PM

I want a LSD badly. S54 swap would be awesome.... I'm jelly.

Hermes

01-09-2013, 07:35 PM

I know where to get a full M3 rear end from a '03(?) vert minus the R half shaft, so just one part you need to order. Down here in San Diego if you're interested.

derbo

01-09-2013, 07:38 PM

I know where to get a full M3 rear end from a '03(?) vert minus the R half shaft, so just one part you need to order. Down here in San Diego if you're interested.

Thanks JP,

This is the one you mention to me via phone?

i wonder how much shipping is to Kalim's house. haha. I believe I need the m3 drive shaft as well?

derbo

01-09-2013, 07:39 PM

I want a LSD badly. S54 swap would be awesome.... I'm jelly.

Not quite there yet. It's in my ambitious/todolist haha

Hermes

01-09-2013, 09:40 PM

Thanks JP,

This is the one you mention to me via phone?

i wonder how much shipping is to Kalim's house. haha. I believe I need the m3 drive shaft as well?

Yeah, that's the one. I think shipping could be done cheaply via Greyhound. I assume he has the driveshaft as well but I haven't looked at that car since before Xmas when I got one of the mirrors

bcleaver

01-10-2013, 06:40 PM

Nice plans. If you go s54 swap would you just change out the whole powertrain back to the LSD?

derbo

01-11-2013, 05:05 PM

Nice plans. If you go s54 swap would you just change out the whole powertrain back to the LSD?

From what I understand, the driveshaft for a 6spd follows the rear end you decent to use. (I could be wrong)

The plan is to get either a ZHP 3.64 LSD or 3.62 M3 subframe/LSD by March/April. ZHP 3.64 would use the ZHP drive shaft and the M3 would use the M3 driver shaft. I'm not 100% sure which one I want to do just yet. If i choose the M3 LSD it will be cheaper for parts but require replacement M3 sway bars and require alot more labor. It would make more sense to use the M3 LSD since I am planning to do an S54 swap.

ZHP 3.64 Ratio

Pros:
-Aftermarket LSD which allows great customization for the LSD characteristics
-Easier to Install than M3 subframe.

Cons:
-S54 swap can complicate the rear end situation (I believe it works but not 100% sure)
-Expensive

M3 rear end
Pros:
-Will make the S54 swap complete when finished.
-Factory LSD
-parts are less expensive than a custom zhp diff.

Cons:
-needs more parts to install
-requires M3 sway bars
-could be more expensive after labor
-condition of pieces sometimes can be unknown depending on seller.

derbo

01-21-2013, 11:09 PM

I have a quick discussion question for those to have been following my build. (Thank you for your time)

Should I replace the subframe with
OEM factory bushing replacements?
AKG poly bushings?
AKG solid mounts?

I am uncertain how NVH effects correlates to each type of material for a subframe.

I just bought a M3 rear end for those who were wondering. :shifty

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johnrando

01-22-2013, 06:35 AM

Don't know, but congrats on the M3 rear.

Torxuvin

01-22-2013, 10:06 AM

Sweet. Congrats

Hornung418

01-22-2013, 10:52 AM

Go with the 90a poly bushings. And never increase the stiffness of one component with out increasing the stiffness of the one next in line.

I.E. don't put solid bushings in the diff and then keep the subframe bushings stock.

Go have fun with this one Derek!

From a GS3, this was sent.

wertyu78

01-22-2013, 07:42 PM

Pics or it didn't happen!

derbo

01-22-2013, 10:29 PM

Pics or it didn't happen!

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/BMW-M3-COMPLETE-REAR-END-DIFFERENTIAL-AXLE-SPINDLE-CARRIER-3-62-LSD-S54-E46-/00/s/MzAwWDQwMA==/$T2eC16VHJG!E9nm3p3Z7BQHshbTlb!~~60_12.JPG

It's not here yet..but here is the pic :P

Parts I plan to swap:
-Subframe
-Differential
-Sway Bar
-Half-shafts
-Driveshaft

The plan is to replace the bushings on the subframe/Diff bushings with either OEM or Poly Mounts.

I'm not 100% sure that the 330i trailing arms and brakes are interchangeable. I've seen threads on E46F that say it is not necessary but one member here (Jlastor) did write a reivew where the halfshafts did not fit the 330i trailing arms and that has me concerned.

http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?7030-Starting-M3-rear-end-diff-swap

I had a talk with Kalim tonight on the topic, and exhaust clearance with the subframe also came into concern. I might be choosing a new exhaust sooner than I thought. Also turner motorsports reinforcement plates pop into the topic. I am undecided on the reinforcement since I already filled the frame with the BMW Epoxy Foam.

Only a few concerns but only one way to find out! Hopefully I will be able to take pictures and have a good log of the install as well.

wertyu78

01-23-2013, 04:08 AM

I strongly urge you to use poly bushings. You'll have to zip tie your speed sensors in place to keep functionality. Len has done this.

Torxuvin

01-23-2013, 04:26 AM

I had a talk with Kalim tonight on the topic, and exhaust clearance with the subframe also came into concern. I might be choosing a new exhaust sooner than I thought. Also turner motorsports reinforcement plates pop into the topic. I am undecided on the reinforcement since I already filled the frame with the BMW Epoxy Foam.

Only a few concerns but only one way to find out! Hopefully I will be able to take pictures and have a good log of the install as well.

Well the biggest issue with reinforcing the subframe is just getting everything out, right? I am not familiar with the epoxy foam, but I would put in the reinforcement while I was at it too just to make the car more stout. My .02.

Looks great though buddy.

Vas

01-23-2013, 04:51 AM

I was looking at that rear end on ebay.

Keep us updated.

derbo

01-23-2013, 12:04 PM

My HKS Exhaust
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/46034_434440693481_7231149_n.jpg

JeppeJ S54 Swap :drool
http://www.simracing.no/e46fanatics/Dag58/DSC_0077.jpg

These two pictures keeps me hopeful that the exhaust will work! Len got the 330i trailing arms to work and I am hopeful that is the same case for me. My reasoning to do so is to minimize M3 parts during the swap.

Wert, Cam,

I will definitely consider poly and the reinforcement kit. If it is significantly most expensive that OEM rubber, I may just opt for OEM Rubber since the BMW is still running rubber all around. Like Justin said, If you take care of the weakest link, the next link in line will be the one that gains the stress.

Vas,

they sell more than one. :)

derbo

01-23-2013, 02:11 PM

After looking at the reinforcement kit by TMS, I'm not 100% I am able to do it. The instructions state that it is needed to cut the trunk top floorplan area to weld a new support bracket. I injected the structural foam into that area through the two holes next to the square area they cut out. Unless I cut it out and remove the structural foam in that area (however difficult that may be..)

see page 8

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/image/suspension/susp_e46_subframe_reinforcement.pdf

Hermes

01-23-2013, 02:54 PM

get the one from Mason, bolts right in

http://www.masonengineering.net/images/E46Floorsupport.jpg

derbo

01-23-2013, 03:26 PM

I like JP! lol

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6197/screenshot20130123at319.png

My tentative list of parts to order, just waiting on the subframe to arrive so I double check if there are any other missing parts.. Those are Tischer BMW online prices. I have to check what my discount is from the dealership to see if its cheaper..

Johal E32

01-23-2013, 04:24 PM

Performance technic charges around 1k for a subframe reinforcement, they weld in the plates and everything. I think 1k is for parts and labor, which is a pretty good deal.

derbo

01-23-2013, 08:46 PM

Performance technic charges around 1k for a subframe reinforcement, they weld in the plates and everything. I think 1k is for parts and labor, which is a pretty good deal.

I'm not sure how they would deal with the top part of the reinforcement since I already injected the area with the structural foam. Thank you for the heads up. I know a guy that works there so perhaps he can help lower the labor costs a bit.

Torxuvin

01-24-2013, 05:13 AM

^ It's the stig!!!

Liking the new signature buddy

derbo

01-24-2013, 11:39 AM

Thanks Cam. It's been a while since I changed my sig..

danewilson77

01-24-2013, 03:31 PM

Looks great. Love the stance in the corner.

Can you say "staunch"?

How about "squashed"?

derbo

01-24-2013, 06:48 PM

I wanted to edit the Tow hook out, :)

derbo

01-27-2013, 03:27 PM

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/4637/img2822nk.jpg

Installed bimmerworld 82mm Wheel studs and Muteki SR40 lugnuts. No more need to swap bolts again! yay. Don't mind the yellow brakes being dirty :P

Vas

01-27-2013, 04:14 PM

Pics of lug nuts?

It is on my list to swap to studs from bolts and having a hard time deciding on lug nuts.

derbo

01-27-2013, 05:54 PM

Pics of lug nuts?

It is on my list to swap to studs from bolts and having a hard time deciding on lug nuts.

Sorry I didnt take any final pics cause I put the ZHP wheels back on for commuting.

But these are it. Muteki SR48 (I wrote SR40 by mistake). Nothing fancy just extended lugnuts.

http://www.enjukuracing.com/product_images/b/361/12416_107169312644250_100000535440996_151518_35643 74_n__85978_zoom.jpg

danewilson77

01-27-2013, 05:55 PM

Are you running spacers derbo?

derbo

01-27-2013, 07:00 PM

Are you running spacers derbo?

Dane,

Yes I'm running 12.5mm on the front with the style 135 rims.

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Vas

01-27-2013, 07:03 PM

Those are open-ended right ?

danewilson77

01-27-2013, 08:09 PM

OK......thanks

LivesNearCostco

01-27-2013, 09:25 PM

If I had those wheel studs or those extended lug nuts, I wouldn't have any trouble bolting up my D-force wheels with the 5mm spacer. It turns out the design of the D-force LTW5 makes it slightly awkward to start the lugnuts by hand with the spacer and using 75mm studs. it doesn't happen with the stock style-135 wheels.

Installed bimmerworld 82mm Wheel studs and Muteki SR40 lugnuts. No more need to swap bolts again! yay. Don't mind the yellow brakes being dirty :P

derbo

01-27-2013, 09:57 PM

Those are open-ended right ?

Yes sir.

OK......thanks

Anytime Dane. :) Any particular reason you asked?

If I had those wheel studs or those extended lug nuts, I wouldn't have any trouble bolting up my D-force wheels with the 5mm spacer. It turns out the design of the D-force LTW5 makes it slightly awkward to start the lugnuts by hand with the spacer and using 75mm studs. it doesn't happen with the stock style-135 wheels.

I use a 12.5mm spacer which is why I opt for the 82mm Wheel studs. Time to invest in a new setup? :]

danewilson77

01-28-2013, 05:21 AM

Yes sir.

Anytime Dane. :) Any particular reason you asked?

I use a 12.5mm spacer which is why I opt for the 82mm Wheel studs. Time to invest in a new setup? :]

Teah....I was thinking of going to studz and lugz.

derbo

01-28-2013, 06:56 AM

Teah....I was thinking of going to studz and lugz.

Do et. Lol

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danewilson77

01-28-2013, 07:14 AM

Yeah...I'm going to. I have 10mm spacers (square), so I've been thinking about the different sized (length) studs.

johnrando

01-28-2013, 07:26 AM

Funny to say this but those are good looking lug nuts.

derbo

01-28-2013, 08:23 AM

Yeah...I'm going to. I have 10mm spacers (square), so I've been thinking about the different sized (length) studs.

With 10mm you don't need any longer than 75mm. I have 12.5mm and it is the maximum 75mm studs will take. I saw the 82mm bimmerworld ones and thought sweet that's what I need!

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derbo

01-28-2013, 10:00 AM

7069

7070

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LivesNearCostco

01-28-2013, 02:39 PM

I can't see using more than a 12mm spacer up front (famous last words) so my current studs should be good. It would just be a big hassle to start the lug nuts by hand. I would need to start them using the deep socket, or get extended lug nutz like yours.

But I have time... time to wear out current (245mm) tires. Time to kick myself for not joining the APEX Arc-8 group buy with 17x9 wheels (because I already have 2 sets of wheels). Time to wait for BimmerWorld's 12-days of Christmas 2013 sale to return.

I use a 12.5mm spacer which is why I opt for the 82mm Wheel studs. Time to invest in a new setup? :]

az3579

01-28-2013, 04:47 PM

Derbs, your ZHP is mega hot. Wish I could meet you; I get the feeling I could talk to you all day.

cakM3

01-28-2013, 04:57 PM

Derek...

UUC Corsa exhaust........

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derbo

01-28-2013, 11:00 PM

Derbs, your ZHP is mega hot. Wish I could meet you; I get the feeling I could talk to you all day.

I'm sure we can. :luv

derbo

01-28-2013, 11:00 PM

derek...

Uuc corsa exhaust........

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no charlie no!!!! The only real concern is that the exhaust is decently loud. I wonder if it can pass 92dB sound limit at Laguna Seca. I would hate to not be able to run that track because of an sound violation...

derbo

01-28-2013, 11:07 PM

I can't see using more than a 12mm spacer up front (famous last words) so my current studs should be good. It would just be a big hassle to start the lug nuts by hand. I would need to start them using the deep socket, or get extended lug nutz like yours.

But I have time... time to wear out current (245mm) tires. Time to kick myself for not joining the APEX Arc-8 group buy with 17x9 wheels (because I already have 2 sets of wheels). Time to wait for BimmerWorld's 12-days of Christmas 2013 sale to return.

The ARC8 group buy is happening right now again..FYI.. :whistle

az3579

01-29-2013, 03:21 AM

no charlie no!!!! The only real concern is that the exhaust is decently loud. I wonder if it can pass 92dB sound limit at Laguna Seca. I would hate to not be able to run that track because of an sound violation...

I pass Lime Rock's 89 or 90dB limit just fine with my TSE3.

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cakM3

01-29-2013, 03:26 AM

I pass Lime Rock's 89 or 90dB limit just fine with my TSE3.

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Derek... do it....

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BCS_ZHP

01-29-2013, 03:58 AM

And send that HKS to VA, promise to keep her in the revs.

derbo

01-29-2013, 09:16 AM

I pass Lime Rock's 89 or 90dB limit just fine with my TSE3.

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How far away is the sound booth at lime rock? The sound booth at Laguna makes stock s2000 with intakes fail....

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derbo

01-29-2013, 09:17 AM

And send that HKS to VA, promise to keep her in the revs.

Bruce,

I know you've been eyeing my exhaust for quite some time...

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BCS_ZHP

01-29-2013, 09:22 AM

:begging

derbo

01-29-2013, 01:43 PM

:begging

If i find TSE3...lol I'm not in a position to do exhaust upgrade right now unless...I do not clear the M3 LSD..

az3579

01-29-2013, 04:26 PM

How far away is the sound booth at lime rock? The sound booth at Laguna makes stock s2000 with intakes fail....

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I don't know how far away it is, but I once took measurements with a sound meter. At 50 feet it was high 80's for decibel levels at redline. We also did passes and it never exceeded 90dB.

Our sound limit at my local autox is also 90 or 91dB (can't remember) and I've never got called out on it. That is the same meter we used to record my sound measurements.

I may be wrong on this, but I *think* Lime Rock's sound measurements happen at the start/finish line, which would be right next to the main straight.

derbo

01-29-2013, 10:16 PM

I don't know how far away it is, but I once took measurements with a sound meter. At 50 feet it was high 80's for decibel levels at redline. We also did passes and it never exceeded 90dB.

Our sound limit at my local autox is also 90 or 91dB (can't remember) and I've never got called out on it. That is the same meter we used to record my sound measurements.

I may be wrong on this, but I *think* Lime Rock's sound measurements happen at the start/finish line, which would be right next to the main straight.

B,

You and Charlie are going to break my wallet. :facepalm

az3579

01-30-2013, 03:21 AM

B,

You and Charlie are going to break my wallet. :facepalm

You're welcome. :biggrin

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bcleaver

01-30-2013, 07:57 PM

derbo

01-31-2013, 01:03 AM

Wow I was way behind in reading and had to catch up. Derb, if you're still interested in bushing opinions I would go with the poly over OEM and would stay well away from solid aluminium if you DD if at all. Congrats on the new rear end as well. Gonna be awesome.

Im surprised you read it all!

Thanks man. I think I will most likely stick to OEM. The car itself doesn't have much poly anywhere..I have E92 M3 mounts but RE tranny mounts which are all rubber. I think since I daily drive the car, its best to just keep it at OEM bushing or a stiffer rubber at most.

The rear end is arriving Feb 4th. Then its time to assess the the damages and what I need to buy that's missing (almost guaranteed from a salvage yard)

derbo

02-05-2013, 06:33 PM

Kalim was talking to me and suggested M3 ZCP front brakes to replace the 135i brakes.

I looked at him and thought :facepalm I just must do it too... for the 345mm rotors..

Johal E32

02-05-2013, 06:35 PM

Kalim was talking to me and suggested M3 ZCP front brakes to replace the 135i brakes.

I looked at him and thought :facepalm I just must do it too... for the 345mm rotors..

So..

Sell me the 135i bbk.

Buy some porsche calipers, get some rallyroad.net adaptors, and rock the M3 CSL rotors. Win, win for both of us!

az3579

02-05-2013, 06:39 PM

So..

Sell me the 135i bbk.

Buy some porsche calipers, get some rallyroad.net adaptors, and rock the M3 CSL rotors. Win, win for both of us!

The only way the BMW Performance BBK is worth the money is if you rebuild them with the StopTech pistons. By the way, they cost $450, so you're looking at some serious cash.

I don't know about Derek, but I found them to not really be worth their price. If I knew at the time that they'd need rebuilding after a couple of track days, then I would've bought some Wilwoods and called it a day. I loved these until I found about the piston cracking issue that's so common with these calipers, and still liked them enough until they actually destroyed one of my rotors from a stuck piston.

For street driving they're fine though; they look the part that's for sure.

Vas

02-05-2013, 06:50 PM

So where are the official pics of the rear end ?

derbo

02-05-2013, 07:57 PM

The only way the BMW Performance BBK is worth the money is if you rebuild them with the StopTech pistons. By the way, they cost $450, so you're looking at some serious cash.

I don't know about Derek, but I found them to not really be worth their price. If I knew at the time that they'd need rebuilding after a couple of track days, then I would've bought some Wilwoods and called it a day. I loved these until I found about the piston cracking issue that's so common with these calipers, and still liked them enough until they actually destroyed one of my rotors from a stuck piston.

For street driving they're fine though; they look the part that's for sure.

B,

Seems like you and I fell into the impulsiveness and the "hotness" of the 6 piston caliper too. Racingbrake.com has a better setup with SS pistons with high temp seals but is still in the same price range just for parts alone. I didn't know you lost a rotor to a stuck piston...what did you end up doing? getting rid of the brakes or rebuilding the caliper?

I've talked to Dave @ APEXraceparts and he mentioned the 17" will clear 345mm rotors no problem. He believes the caliper will also clear just a matter of getting the right offset. My 17x8.5 +40 is cutting it close but it may work or may need a 10mm spacer.

Vas,

there was some difficulties from the salvage yard and freight company. It's arriving at kalim's house this thursday.

derbo

02-05-2013, 07:58 PM

So..

Sell me the 135i bbk.

Buy some porsche calipers, get some rallyroad.net adaptors, and rock the M3 CSL rotors. Win, win for both of us!

the whole idea is to find a bbk that works with 17. I may just go stock ZCP calipers too or just plain e46 m3.

az3579

02-06-2013, 01:13 PM

B,

Seems like you and I fell into the impulsiveness and the "hotness" of the 6 piston caliper too. Racingbrake.com has a better setup with SS pistons with high temp seals but is still in the same price range just for parts alone. I didn't know you lost a rotor to a stuck piston...what did you end up doing? getting rid of the brakes or rebuilding the caliper?

I ended up reverting to my old rotors and calipers. Can't rebuild the yellow ones; way too much money. Not in the budget for this year. :(

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derbo

02-06-2013, 02:11 PM

I ended up reverting to my old rotors and calipers. Can't rebuild the yellow ones; way too much money. Not in the budget for this year. :(

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I sold my 330i calipers. I'm seriously thinking going back to 330i front calipers. I believe pads + track only rotors with my cooling ducts will be more than enough for what I am doing right now.

LivesNearCostco

02-06-2013, 09:21 PM

derbo

02-06-2013, 10:39 PM

My stock 330 brakes with brass bushings, fresh Ate fluid, OEM rotors, and semi-track pads (Porterfield R4-S) have not had any overheating problems. I have the stock cooling ducts into the wheelwell without any ducting direct to the rotors. But I know Derbo drives harder and faster than me at the track, so he might need more heat management capacity!

Like I said the only reason I got the 135i was they looked so nice in the e46. Their track performance isn't exactly worth the price though. The looks of a bbk is a great deal but for a track built car I think I may go back to 330i brakes

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derbo

02-07-2013, 07:43 AM

Kalim has a list of m3 front suspension to swap to so I may look into that too for more options on rotors and pad selection.

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Vas

02-07-2013, 08:31 AM

Honestly I would look into a wilwood kit using some fsl calipers. Plenty of pad options , forged light calipers, and etc.

derbo

02-07-2013, 11:25 AM

Honestly I would look into a wilwood kit using some fsl calipers. Plenty of pad options , forged light calipers, and etc.

Vas I will definitely look into it.

I'm not a fan of UUC versions but will look into a more custom application. Hopefully no rust rings.

Perhaps rebuilding the 135i calipers will fix the issues from it.

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Vas

02-07-2013, 12:02 PM

Nothing available from fastbrakes.com ?

derbo

02-07-2013, 12:05 PM

Nothing available from fastbrakes.com ?

Not sure

derbo

02-07-2013, 10:08 PM

7155

7156

Parts are in!

A little hiccup but the driveshaft didn't ship. I will have to contact the seller to resolve this. On the plus side everything else looks in tact and good. A few replacement items and it should be ready to install! :)

It also came with the turner Motorsport limiters oddly enough :)

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derbo

02-09-2013, 09:19 AM

Johal E32

02-09-2013, 10:35 AM

I message the salvage yard and they remember a drive shaft was supposed to be included in the deal. They will be shipping me one shortly. I expect to finish this swap by the end of the month. Parts will be ordered next week and hopefully by the end of next week I will have all I need to prep the parts before install day.

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New parts look awesome Derek! The 3.64 LSD should be a nice upgrade for the 330 ZHP :)

- Do you wanna sell me your 3.07 diff? My 3.46 diff is a bit too much for a 5 speed (talking about my 323i).

johnrando

02-09-2013, 11:56 AM

derbo

02-09-2013, 03:38 PM

New parts look awesome Derek! The 3.64 LSD should be a nice upgrade for the 330 ZHP :)

- Do you wanna sell me your 3.07 diff? My 3.46 diff is a bit too much for a 5 speed (talking about my 323i).

Lets talk when the 330i parts are off.

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Torxuvin

02-09-2013, 03:45 PM

I'm excited and it's not even my car. Happy for you buddy

derbo

02-09-2013, 03:51 PM

I'm excited and it's not even my car. Happy for you buddy

Thanks man. lol. MY wallet isn't happy. Haha

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Hornung418

02-09-2013, 04:36 PM

Did you get this for under $1000? The new bushings and the rebuild of the LSD are the killers. Poly bushings totally send the price through the roof.

Avetiso

02-09-2013, 04:40 PM

Late to the party. This an M3 rear end swap?

BCS_ZHP

02-09-2013, 04:48 PM

I sold my 330i calipers. I'm seriously thinking going back to 330i front calipers. I believe pads + track only rotors with my cooling ducts will be more than enough for what I am doing right now.

Derek,
Au2bahn (Jon) had his stock 330i calipers after he upgraded to BMW BBK, don't know if he kept them or included them as part of the sale to Illirep (Bill). Why don't you ping them both and see if you can get a set of stock, low mileage calipers?

derbo

02-09-2013, 06:49 PM

Derek,
Au2bahn (Jon) had his stock 330i calipers after he upgraded to BMW BBK, don't know if he kept them or included them as part of the sale to Illirep (Bill). Why don't you ping them both and see if you can get a set of stock, low mileage calipers?

Thanks bruce! :thumbup

derbo

02-12-2013, 09:00 AM

I asked Jon and the calipers went to Bill. I'll ask Bill.

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derbo

02-13-2013, 10:27 AM

Last night after work I stopped by Kalim's to start disassembling the rear end.

We made some progress. Disassembled the diff and arms off the subframe. The RTABs are shot on the trailing arms and looks to be the original ones from 01. Shot and destroyed. Used a RTAB tool to remove it them both and the last one actually broke the RTAB tool. :facepalm

We made an assessment on the parts to be replaced and I made an order this morning for a bunch of stuff.

After that, we changed the MAF sensor and some parts on the red beast and made me want an S54 more and more.. Two pics poor pics of Kalim's S54 sedan.

http://imageshack.us/a/img824/1135/img2848p.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img20/8971/img2849k.jpg

Vas

02-13-2013, 04:28 PM

S54 is in my future as well.

Any progression pictures?

derbo

02-13-2013, 10:02 PM

unfortunately I didn't take pics of the rear end. Next time I see it I will!

Torxuvin

02-14-2013, 05:03 PM

http://imageshack.us/a/img824/1135/img2848p.jpg

That's a sexy sexy car. I too miss having an s54 in my life.

derbo

02-14-2013, 10:20 PM

Hanging around Kalim too much makes me want to mod my car more..

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az3579

02-17-2013, 06:06 PM

Hanging around Kalim too much makes me want to mod my car more..

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Story of my life hanging around Charlie. =\

cakM3

02-17-2013, 06:11 PM

Story of my life hanging around Charlie. =\

:biggrin

az3579

02-17-2013, 06:29 PM

It's ok. I have learned self control. You can't control me anymore Charrie!!! :biggrin

cakM3

02-17-2013, 06:54 PM

It's ok. I have learned self control. You can't control me anymore Charrie!!! :biggrin

Nice....:biggrin

derbo

02-17-2013, 07:24 PM

It's ok. I have learned self control. You can't control me anymore Charrie!!! :biggrin

This made me chuckle. Lol

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cyberkaa

02-22-2013, 06:45 PM

Hanging around Kalim too much makes me want to mod my car more..

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Mwa ha ha :rofl

Rovert

02-22-2013, 07:01 PM

Should I book y'all a hotel room together for SIGFest 2013? :P

cyberkaa

02-22-2013, 07:32 PM

Should I book y'all a hotel room together for SIGFest 2013? :P

lol. Strong bromance!

330i ZHP

02-22-2013, 09:51 PM

New parts look awesome Derek! The 3.64 LSD should be a nice upgrade for the 330 ZHP :)

- Do you wanna sell me your 3.07 diff? My 3.46 diff is a bit too much for a 5 speed (talking about my 323i).

If you want to pay shipping - I have a 3.07 diff sitting here you can have

Newjack

02-22-2013, 09:56 PM

Hanging around Kalim too much makes me want to mod my car more..

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Twin screw it. If you still want more power then strengthen the internals and go nuts with boost.

330i ZHP

02-22-2013, 10:04 PM

cyberkaa

02-23-2013, 12:43 AM

Twin screw it. If you still want more power then strengthen the internals and go nuts with boost.

That's what Brian (highboostin330) did, but the head lifted on his built motor.
Then we made an S54 happen in his car. :headbang

Hermes

02-23-2013, 01:18 AM

I'm planning on S85 swap for my coupe

http://bimmerpower.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/2011-09-18_18-46-19_768.jpg

I know it's a M3 but I can make it work in a ZHP

330i ZHP

02-23-2013, 03:25 AM

That's what Brian (highboostin330) did, but the head lifted on his built motor.
Then we made an S54 happen in his car. :headbang

lets be fair - he races the car often and the engine had a good amount of mileage

I haven't experienced any of these problems

Vas

02-23-2013, 08:28 AM

Hmm boost or s54.

cyberkaa

02-23-2013, 10:16 AM

I'm planning on S85 swap for my coupe

[IMGhttp://bimmerpower.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/2011-09-18_18-46-19_768.jpg[/IMG]

I know it's a M3 but I can make it work in a ZHP

There are a handful of those running around now.
Good deal on a S85+DCT came up a few days ago on m3forum and m5board. The seller just put it up on ebay.
Was considering it for another swap, but I found that I can get a whole donor car in CA for a little bit more.

lets be fair - he races the car often and the engine had a good amount of mileage

I haven't experienced any of these problems

Good point, but the same is true of Derek's car. It's got plenty of miles on it now and it gets tracked.
I'm sure if he kept the boost reasonable, it'd be reliable. What are you running on yours?

330i ZHP

02-23-2013, 10:26 AM

15 if ESS asks - but I had a 1.5 smaller pulley - for 16psi

cyberkaa

02-23-2013, 10:46 AM

15 if ESS asks - but I had a 1.5 smaller pulley - for 16psi

Not bad!

330i ZHP

02-23-2013, 10:55 AM

I meant to say that I had a pulley machined for me

Hermes

02-23-2013, 10:38 PM

There are a handful of those running around now.
Good deal on a S85+DCT came up a few days ago on m3forum and m5board. The seller just put it up on ebay.
Was considering it for another swap, but I found that I can get a whole donor car in CA for a little bit more.

That exactly is my most likely plan. Buy a whole chassis and part out everything I don't need to recoup costs. I don't wanna buy a motor/tranny then realize I need to order all sorts of parts that weren't included

cyberkaa

02-24-2013, 12:10 AM

That exactly is my most likely plan. Buy a whole chassis and part out everything I don't need to recoup costs. I don't wanna buy a motor/tranny then realize I need to order all sorts of parts that weren't included

Exactly. I was ready to pull the trigger, but based on experience from my S54 swap, there are always a few more things you need.

Hermes

02-24-2013, 12:27 AM

Exactly. I was ready to pull the trigger, but based on experience from my S54 swap, there are always a few more things you need.

my next plan (maybe in 5-10 years) is to buy an E60 M5, cut it and the 2002 up, chop/channel the 02 unibody and weld it to the M5 unibody so it looks like a '69 and goes like a '10... it's gonna be one badass 5002

cyberkaa

02-24-2013, 01:14 AM

my next plan (maybe in 5-10 years) is to buy an E60 M5, cut it and the 2002 up, chop/channel the 02 unibody and weld it to the M5 unibody so it looks like a '69 and goes like a '10... it's gonna be one badass 5002

Very ambitious! Sounds like it could be a great project.

derbo

02-24-2013, 09:39 AM

There are a handful of those running around now.
Good deal on a S85+DCT came up a few days ago on m3forum and m5board. The seller just put it up on ebay.
Was considering it for another swap, but I found that I can get a whole donor car in CA for a little bit more.

Good point, but the same is true of Derek's car. It's got plenty of miles on it now and it gets tracked.
I'm sure if he kept the boost reasonable, it'd be reliable. What are you running on yours?

We all know that I will be in the same position as Brian and blow up my car again. Track days and a stock m3 motor seems like the most reliable setup compared to a s/c 330i. Especially since I'm about to hit 122k.

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cakM3

03-06-2013, 09:07 AM

an S54 ZHP....:drool

derbo

03-06-2013, 12:13 PM

an S54 ZHP....:drool

Oh i know. It sounds awesome.

There is talks of moving on to an M3 or a NSX again with my brother. I take his Fit for daily and give him my ZHP... but it's just talks. If i can find a nice ZCP for a good deal.. I may jump ship.

cakM3

03-06-2013, 05:38 PM

Oh i know. It sounds awesome.

There is talks of moving on to an M3 or a NSX again with my brother. I take his Fit for daily and give him my ZHP... but it's just talks. If i can find a nice ZCP for a good deal.. I may jump ship.

After my daughter is finished with college....I might just get another E46 ///M ZCP in Interlagos Blue to add to my stable :thumbsup