Derbo's ZHP

[derbo]

whoo whoo.


Paid retailed for the parking brake shoes and they said it SHOULD be here by friday.. :facepalm

[cyberkaa]

whoo whoo.


Paid retailed for the parking brake shoes and they said it SHOULD be here by friday.. :facepalm

Stealership...d'oh.

[derbo]

Yea sucks, cause I just looked up ECStuning, overnight shipping for Pagid shoes are still cheaper than what I just paid. :facepalm


Oh well.

[cyberkaa]

Yea sucks, cause I just looked up ECStuning, overnight shipping for Pagid shoes are still cheaper than what I just paid. :facepalm


Oh well.

lol, darnit.

[derbo]

Lesson learned.

[cyberkaa]

Lesson learned.

No chance of canceling the order?

[derbo]

No chance of canceling the order?

It's okay. Time frame is tight so it's okay. I think they have restocking fee


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[cyberkaa]

It's okay. Time frame is tight so it's okay. I think they have restocking fee


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Yeah. Only have a couple of days left now.

[derbo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-LbvFckptY

Im SO excited

[cyberkaa]

:rofl

[Hornung418]

Going to clean it all up before install or just get it in and peel out? :)

Happy you're doing this. Wish I had the funds. Every time I get $1k, i need to spend it on shit like CCV and Control Arms...

[derbo]

Going to clean it all up before install or just get it in and peel out? :)

Happy you're doing this. Wish I had the funds. Every time I get $1k, i need to spend it on shit like CCV and Control Arms...

Just throwing it all in! I say to have at least $2k laying around if you want to do this the right way with refreshed parts.


Kalim was kind enough to lend me some garage space and its' been taking awhile to get everything setup. The goal is to get it all out by this saturday.

[Hornung418]

Awesome. Can't wait for pictures of 11s :)

From a GS3, this was sent.

[Rovert]

:drevil

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rM8Gpsz0l-U/TjxBWx28xrI/AAAAAAAAA4Q/uC_XkqKEOZs/s948/IMG_6885.jpg

I wish... :(

[derbo]

lol did you just park your car there?

[Rovert]

YES..LOL...can't you tell I didn't line up the rubber on the ground with the rubber on my wheel...hahahaha. missed it by an inch.

[Torxuvin]

YES..LOL...can't you tell I didn't line up the rubber on the ground with the rubber on my wheel...hahahaha. missed it by an inch.

:facepalm That's really funny

[cyberkaa]

YES..LOL...can't you tell I didn't line up the rubber on the ground with the rubber on my wheel...hahahaha. missed it by an inch.

:rofl

[derbo]

:facepalm It's okay. Someday Rovert in the next 8 years? :)

[Rovert]

Yeah someday but for now I'll be driving an E46 M3 vert tomorrow. :D They come with and LSD stock! OEM Fun fun fun!

[bcleaver]

Can't wait for updates. This going in this weekend?

[derbo]

Can't wait for updates. This going in this weekend?

As long as Steven's Creek BMW has my parking brake shoes tomorrow yes.... otherwise Kalim, can I steal your shoes?! LOL

[derbo]

On another note, driver side headlight is intermittently turning on.

I'll double check if it is the ignitor or ballast or bad grounds. I highly doubt its the bulb. I'm leaning towards the ignitor

[derbo]

7472

It begins.


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[johnrando]

:thumbsup

[derbo]

Some pictures and some info.

Friday Night:

Kalim and I tackled getting the 330i subframe and parts ready to be dropped early saturday morning. We first disassembled the brakes and ebrake shoes. The calipers were taken left hanging so that we did not have to bleed the whole system again. We then removed the driveshaft and the subframe was basically ready to be removed after detaching some sensors off the chassis.

After friday night meet, we finished up by putting in the new diff cover with new bushings on the M3 LSD. Parts dept forgot to give me the drain and fill plugs for the LSD. Luckily Kalim had a spare set for his own car that he graciously use. (I owe him new plugs. :)).

Saturday:

Starting a little later around 10:30am, we manage to drop the 330i subframe and get it out. Miles helped and started to assemble the M3 driveshaft.

We then started to build the m3 subframe to install in. The ebrake shoes gave us some trouble installing but once that was squared away we managed continue on without too much difficulty.

We ran into a couple of issues when we were doing the swap. My extended studs were STUCK on. I couldn't get them off. I think I will just buy new ones. Also, the M3 rear end swap I have, has grey plug vehicle speed sensors. My car has blue plugs. The blue plugs are 02+ cars and the grey plugs are -02. I either have a faulty sensor or incompatbile sensors communication as my speedo does not work and I have DCS/ABS/Brake lights on.

Another issue is the input shaft seal is leaking. It's not completely dripping, but its something I need to address soon.

The heatshield manage to get a little bent during installation and was hitting something on the driveshaft while first test drive, that cause a loud obnoxious rattle while driving. That has been solved so there are only two more issues to deal with before I get an alignment.


Thank you very much to Kalim and Miles for all their hardwork and help!!.

I blame Kalim for all this. This ZHP was suppose to be stock when I bought it.. :facepalm



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[wertyu78]

Where are the videos?!

[cyberkaa]

As long as Steven's Creek BMW has my parking brake shoes tomorrow yes.... otherwise Kalim, can I steal your shoes?! LOL

Good thing they came through or I would have had to have done that e-brake mess on my car, too. :rofl


Some pictures and some info.

Friday Night:

Kalim and I tackled getting the 330i subframe and parts ready to be dropped early saturday morning. We first disassembled the brakes and ebrake shoes. The calipers were taken left hanging so that we did not have to bleed the whole system again. We then removed the driveshaft and the subframe was basically ready to be removed after detaching some sensors off the chassis.

After friday night meet, we finished up by putting in the new diff cover with new bushings on the M3 LSD. Parts dept forgot to give me the drain and fill plugs for the LSD. Luckily Kalim had a spare set for his own car that he graciously use. (I owe him new plugs. :)).

Saturday:

Starting a little later around 10:30am, we manage to drop the 330i subframe and get it out. Miles helped and started to assemble the M3 driveshaft.

We then started to build the m3 subframe to install in. The ebrake shoes gave us some trouble installing but once that was squared away we managed continue on without too much difficulty.

We ran into a couple of issues when we were doing the swap. My extended studs were STUCK on. I couldn't get them off. I think I will just buy new ones. Also, the M3 rear end swap I have, has grey plug vehicle speed sensors. My car has blue plugs. The blue plugs are 02+ cars and the grey plugs are -02. I either have a faulty sensor or incompatbile sensors communication as my speedo does not work and I have DCS/ABS/Brake lights on.

Another issue is the input shaft seal is leaking. It's not completely dripping, but its something I need to address soon.

The heatshield manage to get a little bent during installation and was hitting something on the driveshaft while first test drive, that cause a loud obnoxious rattle while driving. That has been solved so there are only two more issues to deal with before I get an alignment.


Thank you very much to Kalim and Miles for all their hardwork and help!!.

I blame Kalim for all this. This ZHP was suppose to be stock when I bought it.. :facepalm





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Times like this make me feel better about obsessively ordering spares.
And I knew that heat shield was going to be a troublemaker! lol

I'll gladly accept the blame for making your ZHP more awesome. Enjoy it, man. :rockon

[danewilson77]

Great update.

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[Torxuvin]

I'll gladly accept the blame for making your ZHP more awesome. Enjoy it, man. :rockon

This. #win Looking good so far guys!

[Hornung418]

Sweet! Now I really want to have this done. I keep seeing 210mm 3.15 ring and pinions on ebay in BMW packaging for like $120 shipped. Easy cost for a 5 speed car.

Awesome updates. It's good that you all are a knowledgeable group to reference back and forth and hang out for a maintenance weekend.

Wish my town had more people like y'all.

From a GS3, this was sent.

[cyberkaa]

Where are the videos?!

Didn't take pics or videos of the finished product yet.

Derek had to make an important appointment later in the day, so we wanted to finish by 4pm. We kept up a pretty aggressive pace and finished pretty close to our goal. A couple of snags, like the bent heat shield that Derek mentioned, forced us to go back under the car so we had to forgo the fun stuff.

So maybe later when Derek gets a chance!

[derbo]

There are a few snags left to deal with:

-Wheel Speed Sensor causing no speedo, ABS, DSC, Brake lights to go on. (May need spacers if the blue plug sensors are too long and hit the bearing/hub portion area thing a mobber)
-Input Shaft Seal leaking
-Missing Pushrod (not too important but it bothers me that its not there.
-Alignment after all this debocle.



Thank you Kalim. I know I blame you but it doesn't mean I dont love it. HAHAHAH. now..S54... I better buy one 04+ to minimize hassle..hahah

[derbo]

Didn't take pics or videos of the finished product yet.

Derek had to make an important appointment later in the day, so we wanted to finish by 4pm. We kept up a pretty aggressive pace and finished pretty close to our goal. A couple of snags, like the bent heat shield that Derek mentioned, forced us to go back under the car so we had to forgo the fun stuff.

So maybe later when Derek gets a chance!

Yea I'm glad that it wasnt a bad diff and it was just the heatshield bent a little out of shape. When you look at the heat shield underneath you cannot even tell its hitting it. I think its only under load when the driveshaft shifts a bit where it decides to hit a bit.




BTW, Kalim I ordered 4 more plugs from BMWSF. I'm pretty sure they have it in stock always since its such a universal part. I have your lugnuts as well.

[johnrando]

all full of win.

[derbo]

Where are the videos?!

I was pressed for time so there were no videos :(


Great update.

Sent from the HTC DNA, Williamsburg, VA and USA

Thank you Mr. Wilson


This. #win Looking good so far guys!

I'm glad it worked out for the most part. The biggest fear was the LSD was toast and I was putting it in without rebuilding it..



Sweet! Now I really want to have this done. I keep seeing 210mm 3.15 ring and pinions on ebay in BMW packaging for like $120 shipped. Easy cost for a 5 speed car.

Awesome updates. It's good that you all are a knowledgeable group to reference back and forth and hang out for a maintenance weekend.

Wish my town had more people like y'all.

From a GS3, this was sent.

3.15 seems like a good choice based on Nathan's 3.15 LSD 330i.


all full of win.

Indeed. :D

[cyberkaa]

There are a few snags left to deal with:

-Wheel Speed Sensor causing no speedo, ABS, DSC, Brake lights to go on. (May need spacers if the blue plug sensors are too long and hit the bearing/hub portion area thing a mobber)
-Input Shaft Seal leaking
-Missing Pushrod (not too important but it bothers me that its not there.
-Alignment after all this debocle.



Thank you Kalim. I know I blame you but it doesn't mean I dont love it. HAHAHAH. now..S54... I better buy one 04+ to minimize hassle..hahah

Yeah, it's funny that the pushrod was missing from my parts kit when I did my swap, too. No worries. That's easy to sort out and then we can both do the welding for the V-braces now that we know the exhaust clears. :)

And yes, definitely go with a later S54 donor for fewer hassles, haha.


Yea I'm glad that it wasnt a bad diff and it was just the heatshield bent a little out of shape. When you look at the heat shield underneath you cannot even tell its hitting it. I think its only under load when the driveshaft shifts a bit where it decides to hit a bit.




BTW, Kalim I ordered 4 more plugs from BMWSF. I'm pretty sure they have it in stock always since its such a universal part. I have your lugnuts as well.

Pretty nuts!



Oh sweet. I'll grab them from you tomorrow.

[cakM3]

looking great Derek! Before you know it....your ZHP will have an S54 heart...:thumbsup

[BCS_ZHP]

That's easy to sort out and then we can both do the welding for the V-braces now that we know the exhaust clears. :)

Darn it, why did the HKS exhaust have to clear?! Just kidding, glad it all worked out for you Derek, it looks like a sweet improvement.

[derbo]

looking great Derek! Before you know it....your ZHP will have an S54 heart...:thumbsup

Thanks Charlie. I'm scare how soon that might actually come around to happening.


Darn it, why did the HKS exhaust have to clear?! Just kidding, glad it all worked out for you Derek, it looks like a sweet improvement.

Sorry Bruce, there was MORE than ample room around :X

[derbo]

The UUC sways for the non-m had to be replaced. Sometime down the line, I will want to get a new set of sways.. haven't decided while set yet.

[cyberkaa]

Darn it, why did the HKS exhaust have to clear?! Just kidding, glad it all worked out for you Derek, it looks like a sweet improvement.

Hahaha


The UUC sways for the non-m had to be replaced. Sometime down the line, I will want to get a new set of sways.. haven't decided while set yet.

Sold my UUCs to Nathan for the same reason.
I'll wait to see what you get, haha.

[derbo]

Hahaha



Sold my UUCs to Nathan for the same reason.
I'll wait to see what you get, haha.

Yes. I'm looking at options. Not sure what to get. It's going to be a pity remove the front one. The brake ducts are in the way. :facepalm




http://www.simracing.no/e46fanatics/Dag58/DSC_0077.jpg

This underbody makes me want to get some parts to complete the bottom. I didnt realize how many extra parts the m3 underbody has compared to the ZHP.


-The Pushrods/V-brace
-The plastic panels covering the fuel tank
-the Transmission covers
-Underbody M3 brace with the transmission vents on it.

I wonder if it will fit with the HKS exhaust with the V brace.

[cyberkaa]

Yes. I'm looking at options. Not sure what to get. It's going to be a pity remove the front one. The brake ducts are in the way. :facepalm




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This underbody makes me want to get some parts to complete the bottom. I didnt realize how many extra parts the m3 underbody has compared to the ZHP.


-The Pushrods/V-brace
-The plastic panels covering the fuel tank
-the Transmission covers
-Underbody M3 brace with the transmission vents on it.

I wonder if it will fit with the HKS exhaust with the V brace.

I'm tempted to order the plastic covers.
Pretty sure the V-brace will clear the exhaust, too. The brace attaches very low as I recall from my M3. We can pull mine off and test fit.

[cakM3]

http://www.simracing.no/e46fanatics/Dag58/DSC_0077.jpg

Jeppe's E46 M3 sedan :drool :drool :drool :drool

[derbo]

I'm tempted to order the plastic covers.
Pretty sure the V-brace will clear the exhaust, too. The brace attaches very low as I recall from my M3. We can pull mine off and test fit.

you have the v brace attached already?

[cyberkaa]

you have the v brace attached already?

Only on the beater. Must do it on the sedan next.

[derbo]

Only on the beater. Must do it on the sedan next.

Ahh yes. :) well We cant do that before trackday haha.


We will have a discussion tonight when we start disassembling!

[derbo]

I love how those plastic covers have M3 on it.. LOL i think it makes it like 50% more expensive?

[cyberkaa]

Ahh yes. :) well We cant do that before trackday haha.


We will have a discussion tonight when we start disassembling!

Sounds good. :)


I love how those plastic covers have M3 on it.. LOL i think it makes it like 50% more expensive?

///Markup :rofl

[derbo]

Kalim found out that there are two blue plugs and more information about the MK60 vs the MK20 DSC system.


Looking in the ST034 pdf I find this for the MK60 DSC.

There are two types of sensors used in the rear axle of the E46:
• The short sensor is used on the 325i (any transmission) and 330i automatic.
• The long sensor is used on the 330i manual transmission version.


Doesn't say much about the M3 but if REALOEM is correct, it uses the short one like all other E46s except 330i manuals. :facepalm. Looks like I need to find some spacers to run temporarily till I can get a set of wheel sensors.

Grey Plug:
inductive sensors
Blue plug:
magnetoresistive sensors

[cyberkaa]

Kalim found out that there are two blue plugs.

Oddly enough 330i manuals have one abs sensor. The rest of the cars autos/M3 use another blue plug sensor. how strange.

Yep, exactly what I was saying I read in the tech docs. It's weird how they singled out just the 330 manuals.

[derbo]

Do you have the ST034 document?

[derbo]

http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/smart/more_info.cgi?pn=34-52-6-752-683-M4&catalog_description=ABS%20Sensor%2C%20Rear%20%28Le ft%20or%20Right%29%2C%20E46%20323i%2FCi%20w%2F%20D SC%20%28from%209%2F00%29%2C%20325i%2FCi%20w%2Fo%20 DSC%20%28from%209%2F01%29%2C%20325i%2FCi%20w%2F%20 DSC%20%28through%2002%2F03%29%2C%20325i%20Wagon%20 w%2F%20DSC%20%289%2F00-02%2F03%29%2C%20330i%2FCi%20w%2F%20auto%20%28from% 209%2F00%29%2C%20M3%20%28from%209%2F02%29%2C%20eac h%20


There is it is..

E46 323i/Ci w/ DSC (from 9/00), 325i/Ci w/o DSC (from 9/01), 325i/Ci w/ DSC (through 02/03), 325i Wagon w/ DSC (9/00-02/03), 330i/Ci w/ auto (from 9/00), M3 (from 9/02), each

of course the 330i manual has the different one..wtf bmw?! lol

[cyberkaa]

Yup.

[derbo]

Yup.

I may have some stuff that could be of importance to you. Will follow up tomorrow. Goodnight :hi

[cyberkaa]

I may have some stuff that could be of importance to you. Will follow up tomorrow. Goodnight :hi

Sounds good! Night :hi

[derbo]

Minor setback. The wheel sensors for the 330i are significantly longer. I thought spacing them out meant like two washers or so. It looks to be more than that.

7509


I'm going to order the abs sensors and just call it a day.


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[cyberkaa]

Found one spare sensor if you want to get that speedo working, haha.

[derbo]

Found one spare sensor if you want to get that speedo working, haha.

I may have to take you up on this and get it from you on monday.


Tuesday I've made an appointment with one of the old techs at work to replace the input seal on the diff. If I have a working speedo, awesome, if not, I can wait a little longer haha.

[cyberkaa]

I may have to take you up on this and get it from you on monday.


Tuesday I've made an appointment with one of the old techs at work to replace the input seal on the diff. If I have a working speedo, awesome, if not, I can wait a little longer haha.

Sounds good. :)

[Vas]

So you are purchasing m3 sensors ?

[derbo]

Yes sir. I test drove the car and the mileage didn't change. No wheel sensor = mileage doesn't change. Haha


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[derbo]

http://imageshack.us/a/img827/2258/img2944uw.jpg

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Here are two pics of the diff installed since I never took pics of it on the ground.

[Vas]

Man I really want an LSD.
Sliding with an open diff sucks.

[derbo]

The funny thing is, I got the LSD for better grip :)

[cakM3]

http://imageshack.us/a/img827/2258/img2944uw.jpg

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Here are two pics of the diff installed since I never took pics of it on the ground.

Derek....that diff cover looks awesome :drool :drool :drool I need to do that with mine........

[derbo]

Derek....that diff cover looks awesome :drool :drool :drool I need to do that with mine........

The zhp or the M3?


Shame on the M3s, the exhaust is in the way..lol

[cyberkaa]

The zhp or the M3?


Shame on the M3s, the exhaust is in the way..lol

Straight pipes will fix that. :rofl

[derbo]

Straight pipes will fix that. :rofl

Shoot. Sparetire well delete? :excited

[cyberkaa]

Shoot. Sparetire well delete? :excited

Weld in the M3 trunk floor. :)

[derbo]

Weld in the M3 trunk floor. :)

Well I think you need to work with miles on your red car for this.


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[cyberkaa]

Well I think you need to work with miles on your red car for this.


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I kinda like having a spare, haha.

Maybe...

[derbo]

I kinda like having a spare, haha.

Maybe...
//m mobility kit



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[cyberkaa]

//m mobility kit



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:/

[Hornung418]

Is it possible to retain the stock Non-M brakes and axles while converting to the M Differential, RTAs and Subframe.

Does the Differential accept the input and output shafts from a Non-M?

[derbo]

http://imageshack.us/a/img14/5559/img2961yl.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img822/2479/img2962gh.jpg


Yesterday:
Went back to my old work to replacing the input seal on the differential. I always thought it was strange that M3 driveshafts have open greased ends. Seems kinda silly?

after new ABS sensors, a new input seal on the diff and an alignment, the M3 diff is finally in and running properly!!



Couple things left on the list:

-Remove stock m3 sway bar for something else...hmm Turner sways? and sell my UUC sway bars for 330i.
-the camber bolt is stuck on the driver side and siezed. Luckily I wanted 2 degrees of negative camber and it was to about 2 deg and 20minutes. I have to address this by getting new bolts and torching that damn bolt out.



And yes Bruce, those are scratches on the HKS exhaust :P

[danewilson77]

:drool

[Hornung418]

Is it possible to retain the stock Non-M brakes and axles while converting to the M Differential, RTAs and Subframe.

Does the Differential accept the input and output shafts from a Non-M?

Bump.

From a GS3, this was sent.

[cyberkaa]

Finally have a working speedo, eh? :rofl:

How on earth did that camber bolt seize that badly? :/

[derbo]

Is it possible to retain the stock Non-M brakes and axles while converting to the M Differential, RTAs and Subframe.

Does the Differential accept the input and output shafts from a Non-M?


Justin,

Let me make sure I understand your questions.

-You are trying to use non-M brakes and axles with the M3 Differential/rear trailing arms and subframe. It this correct?
-Does the M3 differential accept the non-m driveshaft and half-shafts from the non-m?


Kalim and I had a discussion about this.

in a 6spd 330i, the absolute minimal to do a swap based on other threads and plausibility:

-M3 Driveshaft
-M3 Subframe
-M3 Diff
-M3 Axles
-M3 ABS speed sensors (if you have a 330i manual with MK60 DSC unit.



M3 trailing arms have a different mounting location for the calipers. You will have to retain the M3 calipers and rotors.
M3 also have a much larger parking brake shoe (thicker) than the non-M. This is help with TOKYO DRIFT as the BMW parts guy said to me. :rofl

Originally I wanted to do the absolute minimal but it makes it easier to figure out what parts you need down the long run if you know its ALL M3 in the back.

[derbo]

Finally have a working speedo, eh? :rofl:

How on earth did that camber bolt seize that badly? :/


Yes! new abs sensors are not cheap.. it was like $350 :facepalm for OEM. But that diff seal was leaking BADDDD.

[cyberkaa]

Darn that seal. :/

And $350 is WAAAAAY too much for the OEM sensors. They're $120 per side for Genuine BMW or $90 per side for Ate, which I would be ok with seeing as how they make the DSC unit, too.

[derbo]

Darn that seal. :/

And $350 is WAAAAAY too much for the OEM sensors. They're $120 per side for Genuine BMW or $90 per side for Ate, which I would be ok with seeing as how they make the DSC unit, too.

I'm not sure if I got quoted for all the sensors and the seals and everything or if it was just the sensors. I'll double check. But yea.....dont worry I have it covered.

[cyberkaa]

I'm not sure if I got quoted for all the sensors and the seals and everything or if it was just the sensors. I'll double check. But yea.....dont worry I have it covered.

Ah, ok. Probably with the seal, haha.

[Hornung418]

Yes. All questions answered correctly. I have a 328i 5speed so the driveshaft will need to be chopped and have the six bolt flange welded on.

If I can get away with reusing the wheel speed sensors from my current setup, that will help.

And in order to use the stock brakes, would I need to reuse my stock non M trailing arms? I am fine with it. It's unfortunate that the axles can't be kept. Or at least swap input and output hubs.

Thanks for the help. I'm in contact with a guy in CT for the whole shebang...trying for under $900. But he wants $450-500 for the differential alone...who's to know how it was treated? If it was an original owner parting out sure...but that's an expensive paperweight should you find it's in non-woking condition.

From a GS3, this was sent.

[derbo]

Yes. All questions answered correctly. I have a 328i 5speed so the driveshaft will need to be chopped and have the six bolt flange welded on.

If I can get away with reusing the wheel speed sensors from my current setup, that will help.

And in order to use the stock brakes, would I need to reuse my stock non M trailing arms? I am fine with it. It's unfortunate that the axles can't be kept. Or at least swap input and output hubs.

Thanks for the help. I'm in contact with a guy in CT for the whole shebang...trying for under $900. But he wants $450-500 for the differential alone...who's to know how it was treated? If it was an original owner parting out sure...but that's an expensive paperweight should you find it's in non-woking condition.

From a GS3, this was sent.

You might want to cross reference the ebrake cables as well. The 330i ebrake cable is exact same part number as the M3 one.

I also forgot to mention, you need the M3 rear sway bar as well since the non-m will hit the diff.

[derbo]

Electrical things love to go at the same time don't they?


Passenger Mirror is now not working:
-Reverse lights go on
-Memory Mirror settings do not work
-Driver side can adjust.

HMMMM. Driver side motor has been replaced last year. I hope its something silly. Dont feel like buying another motor.


Driver side AL headlight has an intermittent failure to turn on. My guess is the ignitor
-Check bulbs
-Check ballast
-finally check ignitor.




Initial Impressions of the M3 Diff:

It is mad short. I find myself using 4th and 5th gear in town where I normally be in 3rd/4th. The car definitely feels peppier. I haven't had a chance to test how the car handles. It might be bittersweet since it has an OEM M3 rear sway in the back instead of my UUC. I do notice a bit of understeer on initial turn in, but I'm unclear if it is from the LSD or the sway bar. /me shrug. When I have more time I'll be sure to test the LSD more :)


Freeway speeds: 70mph is around 2900rpm. 80mph is around 3200-3300rpm. My average on the freeway now has dropped to around 28-27mpg instead of the 30mpg. I've been hitting a bit of traffic in the morning so I doubt its going to make too much of a difference.


Overall, I think it was a good choice.

[az3579]

Thanks for the thoughts, D. Now I know to get a differently geared LSD. :)

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[derbo]

Thanks for the thoughts, D. Now I know to get a differently geared LSD. :)

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It's a good gearing for Sears Point. I'm curious how it will do for Laguna. Since this car will now stop being a daily driver, MPG wasn't too important of a loss for the benefits of the LSD/Finalgear change.

I think the 3.46 is the best compromise with a custom clutch diff.

[derbo]

B, what are you considering?

[az3579]

B, what are you considering?

3.07. 3.23 is the absolute shortest I'll consider.
I need the gas mileage.

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[Hornung418]

I'm tellin you dawg, the 3.15 210mm ring and pinion from the e39 M5 is $100 on ebay and is the best ratio for non-M 6 speeds.

From a GS3, this was sent.

[az3579]

I'm tellin you dawg, the 3.15 210mm ring and pinion from the e39 M5 is $100 on ebay and is the best ratio for non-M 6 speeds.

From a GS3, this was sent.

That's a direct swap with housing? Or just internals? That's a damn good price, makes me wonder if it's good enough?

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[cyberkaa]

I'm tellin you dawg, the 3.15 210mm ring and pinion from the e39 M5 is $100 on ebay and is the best ratio for non-M 6 speeds.

From a GS3, this was sent.

Agreed. 3.15 is a really good ratio for non-M 6MTs.
3.23 is even better, IMHO, but a little harder to find.

[derbo]

naw man 3.64!!!!

[cyberkaa]

naw man 3.64!!!!

lol
4.10 ftw?!

[Hornung418]

That's a direct swap with housing? Or just internals? That's a damn good price, makes me wonder if it's good enough?

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It's in the bag with the BMW P/N sticker on it. It's just a ring and pinion swap. Un-bolt the 3.62 on the LSD and bolt on the 3.15. I'd pay a shop to do it so it's guaranteed. And then do the rest of the install my self.

From a GS3, this was sent.

[az3579]

It's in the bag with the BMW P/N sticker on it. It's just a ring and pinion swap. Un-bolt the 3.62 on the LSD and bolt on the 3.15. I'd pay a shop to do it so it's guaranteed. And then do the rest of the install my self.

From a GS3, this was sent.

Oh, you're talking about a swap from the M5 into the M3 diff? Not into the ZHP 3.07?

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[Hornung418]

Oh, you're talking about a swap from the M5 into the M3 diff? Not into the ZHP 3.07?

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Yeah. M3 differential with a lower ratio ring and pinion found with the S62. Keeps revs at a stable speed duting crusing and provides a quicker ratio, and most importantly, PROVIDES LIMITED SLIP!!

From a GS3, this was sent.

[derbo]

does an M5 diff bolt up to an M3 subframe?

[cyberkaa]

does an M5 diff bolt up to an M3 subframe?

Assuming you mean E39 M5 since that's the closest. It's similar, but just different enough to not bolt up.

[330i ZHP]

no

[derbo]

Good to know. hmm. haha.



Plan in the next few weeks.

-Diagnose the passenger mirror not working or my memory mirror settings. LIN Bus is down, I bet the passenger mirror motor is dead.
-Diagnose the ignitor on the driver side intermittently working. Hopefully this one isn't a big of a headache to deal with.

Aim to buy TMS M3 sway bars soon too as well. :D

[derbo]

I drove my car today to work. Driving a Prius for 2 weeks made me appreciate the ZHP even more. I almost kissed my steering and said its good to be back. LOL

[cyberkaa]

I drove my car today to work. Driving a Prius for 2 weeks made me appreciate the ZHP even more. I almost kissed my steering and said its good to be back. LOL

Add me on PSN. I have a gift for you in GT5. lol

[johnrando]

I'll bet! :like

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[derbo]

Add me on PSN. I have a gift for you in GT5. lol


I dont even remember my name i think its lowtec-derbo...im not even 100% its been almost a year since I touched my PS3..

[cyberkaa]

I dont even remember my name i think its lowtec-derbo...im not even 100% its been almost a year since I touched my PS3..

You'll have to log back on for this. :D

[derbo]

You'll have to log back on for this. :D

God i hope its not that prius..

[cyberkaa]

God i hope its not that prius..

:eeps

[Torxuvin]

:eeps

:rofl

[danewilson77]

:eeps

Nice.

[derbo]

Minor update:

Replaced the ignitor on the driver side headlight. Hopefully that will take care of the stuttering headlight since switching bulbs or ballast did not do the trick. GruppeM intake is in the way of aiming the headlights and I laughed for a bit cause it meant the intake had to be off to adjust the headlights :facepalm


Mirror issue:
The passenger mirror motor has been ordered. Man are they expensive!! Will have to replace it when i have time to rip the old ribbon cable out.

[derbo]

Started to take out the mirror cover and of course all 4 of plastic pegs snapped off. :facepalm

I need to get a new cover and get it painted. My passenger dash trim broke it's peg as well. I'm JB welding that peg back on for now!

This car is breaking small pieces on its own!! :facepalm


It's retaliation for driving a Prius LOL

[danewilson77]

I just went through this with Justin's ZHP. Get a cheap cover off eBay (it's just plastic) and take it to BMW for paint.

EDIT: For future reference, the glass need to be removed so the clips can be depressed from the inside.

[derbo]

I just went through this with Justin's ZHP. Get a cheap cover off eBay (it's just plastic) and take it to BMW for paint.

EDIT: For future reference, the glass need to be removed so the clips can be depressed from the inside.

dane,

I actually attempted to do it this way to prevent it from happening, but it still did it. LOL

If my cost for a mirror is under $30bucks I'll get an OEM one and get it painted.

[johnrando]

That's a pain, GL!

[cyberkaa]

Started to take out the mirror cover and of course all 4 of plastic pegs snapped off. :facepalm

I need to get a new cover and get it painted. My passenger dash trim broke it's peg as well. I'm JB welding that peg back on for now!

This car is breaking small pieces on its own!! :facepalm


It's retaliation for driving a Prius LOL

It's like it knows!

[cakM3]

Looks like you got serious making up to do Derek....


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[derbo]

LOL Kalim, its true.. :(


Charlie,

yes I took it out for a 200-mile weekend journey :)

[derbo]

Minor updates:

-resolder the ribbon cable on the mirror passenger motor to get it to work.
-Ordering a new mirror cap to get painted. In the meantime, drilling holes in the old one and ziptie-ing it on for now.
-Turned off adjusting mirror while in reverse. After the fiasco with the mirror, the last thing I want is that mirror constantly moving lol.


Researching on TMS sway bars still. 30mm sway bar front and 25mm rear. Debating going adjustable endlinks or not as well since the stock M3 bars fit at the moment..

Money is tight for extra stuff, but in due time :D

[Johnmadd]

I hate the passenger mirror auto option, #turnedoff.

[cyberkaa]

I love that option.

[danewilson77]

I love that option.

Why? Curbs?

[cyberkaa]

Why? Curbs?

Curbs anywhere with wide pokey wheels.
I switch back and forth between 2 different E46s and an E30, so it's easy to lose track of where the rim is.

[danewilson77]

Curbs anywhere with wide pokey wheels.
I switch back and forth between 2 different E46s and an E30, so it's easy to lose track of where the rim is.

Got it.

HTC DNA, Williamsburg, VA

[Johnmadd]

Curbs anywhere with wide pokey wheels.
I switch back and forth between 2 different E46s and an E30, so it's easy to lose track of where the rim is.

Does not compute, lol! I daily dri ve an e30 and weekend drive my zhp when possible... and at work a 26 foot truck and the classic ford cargo van (2001) I don't hit curbs!!

[cyberkaa]

Does not compute, lol! I daily dri ve an e30 and weekend drive my zhp when possible... and at work a 26 foot truck and the classic ford cargo van (2001) I don't hit curbs!!

I don't either, thanks to the mirror! lol
I hate to admit it, but living in Silicon Valley means you never parallel park, so you get rusty.

Both E46s:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7081/7108765535_c790a7fe00_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/klx/7108765535/)
IMG_3259 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/klx/7108765535/) by cyberkaa (http://www.flickr.com/people/klx/), on Flickr

[derbo]

Kalims fault really. I like the tilt. I just like the idea that if I switch it to the right side on the switch, it disables it in case I need to back up at 25mph I have it available not pointing to the ground. LOL. I have used it in a parking flying backwards at almost redline rwd before. :eeps


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[derbo]

And I'm fine without it. Driving numerous cars during my old job has left me with a higher level of spacial awareness. :)


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[cyberkaa]

lol

[johnrando]

I love the tilt, always parallel parking down here.

[derbo]

I love the tilt, always parallel parking down here.

I like to park without it cause it keeps my skills sharp ;).

Parallel Parkin on a hill is no joke


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[derbo]

I dont have a use for this, but I want it for some reason!!

Really wish it was an Oil temp. gauge or something on there...useful.

http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E46-330Ci-M54_3.0l/News/BMW_Bimmer_E46_3series_P3cars_Vent_Integrated_Digi tal_Interface_Boost_Coolant_Intake_Air_Exhaust_Gas _Temperature_Ignition_Timing_Throttle_Position_RPM _Shift_Light_Vehicle_Speed_0to60_Count_Battery_Vol tage_Gauge_1999_2000_2001_2002_2003_2004_2005_2006/ES2635514/

http://c1552172.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/402394_x600.jpg

[danewilson77]

I dont have a use for this, but I want it for some reason!!

Really wish it was an Oil temp. gauge or something on there...useful.

http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E46-330Ci-M54_3.0l/News/BMW_Bimmer_E46_3series_P3cars_Vent_Integrated_Digi tal_Interface_Boost_Coolant_Intake_Air_Exhaust_Gas _Temperature_Ignition_Timing_Throttle_Position_RPM _Shift_Light_Vehicle_Speed_0to60_Count_Battery_Vol tage_Gauge_1999_2000_2001_2002_2003_2004_2005_2006/ES2635514/

http://c1552172.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/402394_x600.jpg

Yeah... I got that email as well. I haven't looked at its capabilities yet.

HTC DNA, Williamsburg, VA

[derbo]

Yeah... I got that email as well. I haven't looked at its capabilities yet.

HTC DNA, Williamsburg, VA

Haha yes Dane. It looks like it have very basic function.

RPM, shift lights, 0-60, intake temp, coolant temp are what I remember off the top of my head. No oil temp with makes me sad lol


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[danewilson77]

Haha yes Dane. It looks like it have very basic function.

RPM, shift lights, 0-60, intake temp, coolant temp are what I remember off the top of my head. No oil temp with makes me sad lol


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Oil temp is not readable or a stored data point in the DME correct?

[johnrando]

I dont have a use for this, but I want it for some reason!!

Really wish it was an Oil temp. gauge or something on there...useful.

http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E46-330Ci-M54_3.0l/News/BMW_Bimmer_E46_3series_P3cars_Vent_Integrated_Digi tal_Interface_Boost_Coolant_Intake_Air_Exhaust_Gas _Temperature_Ignition_Timing_Throttle_Position_RPM _Shift_Light_Vehicle_Speed_0to60_Count_Battery_Vol tage_Gauge_1999_2000_2001_2002_2003_2004_2005_2006/ES2635514/

http://c1552172.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/402394_x600.jpg

Yup, me too big time. If you get a "buy one, get one free", I'm in. :biggrin

[330i ZHP]

cool, Kris was showing us the (similar one) vent in her car over the wknd.

I cut a deal with InsidePerformance.de for this one:

http://www.insideperformance.de/onlineshop/product_info.php/cPath/1_47/products_id/224

about double the price if paying retail...but about the same price for me at this time

[cyberkaa]

cool, Kris was showing us the (similar one) vent in her car over the wknd.

I cut a deal with InsidePerformance.de for this one:

http://www.insideperformance.de/onlineshop/product_info.php/cPath/1_47/products_id/224

about double the price if paying retail...but about the same price for me at this time

I turned down the p3 gauge because I wanted something more like that!

[danewilson77]

cool, Kris was showing us the (similar one) vent in her car over the wknd.

I cut a deal with InsidePerformance.de for this one:

http://www.insideperformance.de/onlineshop/product_info.php/cPath/1_47/products_id/224

about double the price if paying retail...but about the same price for me at this time

That one is the shit.

[derbo]

cool, Kris was showing us the (similar one) vent in her car over the wknd.

I cut a deal with InsidePerformance.de for this one:

http://www.insideperformance.de/onlineshop/product_info.php/cPath/1_47/products_id/224

about double the price if paying retail...but about the same price for me at this time



Stu,

I like details. I want one!

[derbo]

Kalim,


We needs to has!

[derbo]

I haven't updated this thread in awhile.

Since the Prius has been my daily driver, the BMW has been sitting in the garage. I looked into more serious brakes yesterday and decided to print out the 332mm stop tech brake template to see if they clear my apex arc8. I knew it would be close but from the pictures, it's very close!

I also still haven't bought my sway bars yet. I've been delaying that a bit but I think I will order those at the end of the month.

Cheers guys, thanks for reading :)

9368

9369

9370




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[Vas]

Why does your car look soo good ?

Btw what stoptech kit ? Basic or trophy ?

[derbo]

Why does your car look soo good ?

Btw what stoptech kit ? Basic or trophy ?

I think you are delusional! It's bone stock exterior plus BMW performance grilles!

I think you maybe mixing up brembos and stoptech. The stoptech I am looking at is a 332mm disc 4piston setup. It's on Turner for $2200 I believe.


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[Vas]

Maybe I am but it does look good. Black is nice and sleek.

As far as stoptech, they carry a lime of calipers which are called their trophy series.

[derbo]

Maybe I am but it does look good. Black is nice and sleek.

As far as stoptech, they carry a lime of calipers which are called their trophy series.

Apologies, I just woke up when I replied. I was mixing up gran turismo vs trophies. Trophies are a premium but lighter so hmm.. I wonder what the cost on them are.

[Vas]

When I have the money for it, I will have a set of stoptechs on my car.

[Avetiso]

Gosh that car looks hot. If your high beams were painted black it would be perfect.

[derbo]

Gosh that car looks hot. If your high beams were painted black it would be perfect.

Thanks. You mean the reflector bowls? That seems like it would reduce the output of the high beams...


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[Avetiso]

Yeah. Someone here did it recently, I just wouldn't know where to find it.

Either way, you are tempting me to buy a black car even after I swore I never would. :)

[derbo]

Yeah. Someone here did it recently, I just wouldn't know where to find it.

Either way, you are tempting me to buy a black car even after I swore I never would. :)

Believe me when I say I didn't want a black car. I was looking for an alpine white but this one was a good deal and black sapphire. It made me okay with it and I love it when it's clean. Hate it when it's dirty.


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[ELCID86]

Black cars are amazing when clean.


Shawn in VA.
Via thumbs and Tapatalk.

[derbo]

Black cars are amazing when clean.


Shawn in VA.
Via thumbs and Tapatalk.


Agreed. It's the reason I still own mine.

[derbo]

The list of parts I want:

Stoptech 332mm ST40s..
Turner M3 Sways
Armrest delete


Preventative Maintainance
-Vanos rebuild
-GAS DISA Kit
-Inspection II items


.S54 will have to wait..or might not even happen.

[cyberkaa]

The list of parts I want:

Stoptech 332mm ST40s..
Turner M3 Sways
Armrest delete


Preventative Maintainance
-Vanos rebuild
-GAS DISA Kit
-Inspection II items


.S54 will have to wait..or might not even happen.

Pretty reasonable list.

[derbo]

Kalim,

Forgot. UUC TSE3 ;)

[Vas]

Ever find out price on stoptechs ?

[derbo]

Ever find out price on stoptechs ?

I haven't found a place selling the trophies

[cyberkaa]

Kalim,

Forgot. UUC TSE3 ;)

Haha. Everyone's going to pounce on your HKS!

[bcleaver]

Good looking list. I also have the armrest delte on my list of things I'd like..and the ssk..

[derbo]

Good looking list. I also have the armrest delte on my list of things I'd like..and the ssk..

Z3m shifter is cheap!

[derbo]

I ultimately blame Botond, Kalim, and Charlie the most for this.

9490

[BavarianZHP]

:drool

[derbo]

So much for geting sway bars at the end of the month HAHAAHHA.

[cyberkaa]

:biggrin

[derbo]

Been busy at work, Kalim, we need to get sushi. :drool


We must discuss the topic of RB stainless steel brake pistons rebuild kit for the 135i brakes or stoptech brakes.

[cyberkaa]

Same here, man. Haha.

Yes, that sounds interesting.

[BCS_ZHP]

I ultimately blame Botond, Kalim, and Charlie the most for this.

9490

Derek,
Let me know on your HKS, pls include estimate of shipping to zip code 22039. And on sways, have a set of the UUC Swaybarbarians sitting in the garage if those of are interest to you, adjustable end links included.
Bruce

[johnrando]

So you got the UUC TSE3? Sweet!

[derbo]

Derek,
Let me know on your HKS, pls include estimate of shipping to zip code 22039. And on sways, have a set of the UUC Swaybarbarians sitting in the garage if those of are interest to you, adjustable end links included.
Bruce

Bruce I don't even know where to start to ship an exhaust. I will guestimate the shipping and figure out if I can find a box that size.

Do you mean you have a set of UUC swaybars for sale? Or did you mean you wanted my UUC swaybars too? Im looking for aftermarket m3 sways


edit:

or just wrap the tips and ends with bubble wrap and then wrap with cardboard and wrap it with bubble wrap again ? LOL?

[derbo]

So you got the UUC TSE3? Sweet!

Indeed! I blame you too. Lol

[cakM3]

I ultimately blame Botond, Kalim, and Charlie the most for this.

9490

:applause :applause :applause :applause :applause

Derek, we all feed on each other's BMW addiction...;)

Congrats on the new exhaust....you're going to love it!

[LivesNearCostco]

Ah I remember when I wanted to buy the HKS exhaust, but then it was sold out and discontinued. Hmmm... also I need stiffer swaybars.

I told myself no more mods! At least not until I get the new subframe bushings in and the reinforcement kit welded on. Not sure the "No more Mods" rule is gonna last.

[johnrando]

Indeed! I blame you too. Lol

Just happy to be part of that group. :)

[derbo]

Ah I remember when I wanted to buy the HKS exhaust, but then it was sold out and discontinued. Hmmm... also I need stiffer swaybars.

I told myself no more mods! At least not until I get the new subframe bushings in and the reinforcement kit welded on. Not sure the "No more Mods" rule is gonna last.

You are local, and I will be removing my UUC sway bars in favor for some M3 ones as soon as I buy them. hint hint ;) It will be reasonably price.

[BCS_ZHP]

Bruce I don't even know where to start to ship an exhaust. I will guestimate the shipping and figure out if I can find a box that size.

Do you mean you have a set of UUC swaybars for sale? Or did you mean you wanted my UUC swaybars too? Im looking for aftermarket m3 sways


edit:

or just wrap the tips and ends with bubble wrap and then wrap with cardboard and wrap it with bubble wrap again ? LOL?

Yeah, I have some UUC sways we were going to install with a diff swap, haven't got around to it, obviously you don't need that since you already have a set.

When I bought my HKS it came in one heavy, large, & superior packaged box, probably can't duplicate that so an estimate on shipping in 3 separate smaller boxes would be good. I'm suspecting shipping coast to coast is gonna be a $100 or so.

Only been after you about this exhaust system for what, a year and a half, lol...

[derbo]

Bruce,

I'm planning to remove it this weekend. I'll see what I can find. You used to have one or do you still own that exhaust? I know the exhaust is 2 pieces if I recall.

[BCS_ZHP]

Yeah, had one on our '00 323ci so wouldn't fit the ZHPs. And I think you're correct it was only a 2 piece exhaust, the 3 piece one was the Magnaflow on my son's car. Anyway, I'm suspecting one pf those little UPS stores you see in strip shopping centers could box & pack it in a secure & protected way. Let me know.

[derbo]

Yeah, had one on our '00 323ci so wouldn't fit the ZHPs. And I think you're correct it was only a 2 piece exhaust, the 3 piece one was the Magnaflow on my son's car. Anyway, I'm suspecting one pf those little UPS stores you see in strip shopping centers could box & pack it in a secure & protected way. Let me know.

Bruce, You will have to wait a little longer (few days). I may not be able to get a quote till next week, but for sure you are first on the list. :P I said I would sell it to you when I was planning to get rid of the exhaust. Whats another few days to that 1.5 year wait..LOL..

[derbo]

I ended up installing the exhaust tonight after work. The exhaust I bought is in a little rough shape. I will have to clean the tips and see if I can make it pretty again. No test drive yet. Tomorrow I will take it to work.


Bruce,

Luckily my parents have recently bought a sofa and dryer. I will see if I can makeshift a box tomorrow night. I'll get the weight and then get a quote from UPS or FedEx.

I'll be sure to take some pictures tomorrow for you. :)

[derbo]

Recently I've had the topic of focusing on my front brakes.


Problem:
135i calipers have a known heat problem. It is accelerated when used at the track with aftermarket pads that generate more heat. The ceramic piston cap will crack and will need replacement.

My calipers see alot of track time with aftermarket pads and I foresee this problem arising soon. I need to find a good solution for when it does happen.


Solutions:

I really see about 3 reasonable solutions.


1st solution is to go back to 330i brakes. I sold my old calipers to a local E46 owner and I would need to buy the whole front setup. This solution seems a little silly since I would need new track pads again for the car. It might not make sense anymore.

2nd solution is to rebuild the pistons on the 135i. This one is the more complicated one. Initially like Chad, I saw there was a set of Stoptech aluminum pistons that could replace the OEM pistons. Now there is a new set of Stainless Steel pistons from RacingBrake.com that see potential. The battle between SS and AL begins. The SS pistons seem reasonable as they are similar in price but heat transfer is slower in the SS than Aluminum. This can be beneficial as the 135i caliper already has a heat problem. I need to look into this more with the 135i guys and see if they have any insight on this portion.

3rd Solution is to get Stoptech 332mm Brake kit to replace the 135i and be done with it.
This one is a toughie as the brakes are designed for the E46 and brake bias may not be affected as much. The kit itself barely fits my 17" wheels and I might have to use a 5mm spacer to run them. Replacement rotor rings are expensive as well.



I think the 2nd solution with the stainless steel pistons might be the best choice for me to minimize cost in the long run as well. Since I'm not experiencing brake fade with the current setup, I think I just need to setup the pistons so it can take the abuse over and over again. Hopefully I can research and see if 1ers received good results with the RacingBrake SS pistons.

Any opinions would be appreciated :)

[Vas]

Are the stoptechs a two piece rotor? If they are I would go with that.

[johnrando]

No brake expertise to offer but interesting in hearing how/what you decide.

[derbo]

Are the stoptechs a two piece rotor? If they are I would go with that.

The stoptechs are indeed a true two rotor setup.

The bmw performance rotors are the semi-floating rotors.


The main reason I am having trouble wanting to go to Stoptech.
-Barely fits my current track rims.
-I don't want to run spacers, which means I need new rims which will be another item to replace.
-Currently I have a setup where I swap rotors and pads for street duty and have a seperate set for track duty.
-Replacement rotors can be expensive. From what I've seen, they are around $250-300 each side. This can be difficult for me to want to do the same setup as I had with the bmw performance brakes.
-more expensive than the BMW brakes I have right now.

Course the benefits of Stoptech:
-The rotor is larger and thicker for better heat dissipation.
-Ease of changing pads without removing the caliper
-A system that was designed for the E46.


This makes it hard to say yes to the Stoptech but it doesn't rule it out either...

[derbo]

9533

[derbo]

Initial Impressions:

Surprisingly I expected it to be louder judging by how many people said it was loud. IMO its not much more louder than the HKS exhaust in the interior.

However it is definitely louder on the outside and the exhaust note is more M3 like.

[johnrando]

:like

[derbo]

Thanks Rando

[Torxuvin]

Nice

[derbo]

Thanks Cam.

In a strange twist, I removed my Gruppe M intake and went back to stock intake for now. Why you ask? I want to hear what the exhaust sounds like with just the TSE3. I may buy the BMW performance Intake with the broken tabs from the local on E46F. Hmmm

[derbo]

Bruce, I packaged your exhaust

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[derbo]

Minor pictureless update:

Ever since the M3 rear end swap, I noticed the rear end seems to be drooping a little lower than it was before the swap. It would seem the GC rear height adjuster reinforcement plates have bent a little over the years of usage. It is probably from a few apex hops here and there at the track. :innocent

I am planning to call GC to see how much the plate seperately is. Perhaps I may replace my rear perches as well if they are relatively cheap since they have worn out the top portion of the perch over the years of going up driveways and being on lifts. I also plan to order new swift 7" 65mm 10Kg/mm springs to replace the rear 6" 10Kg/mm springs to help gain some height back. The perches are pretty high up already.


I'm contemplating selling the GruppeM intake for now and getting an AFE down the line. I got the intake for the noise but that seems irrelevant with the TSE3. AFE seems to be putting better numbers on the Dyno and with a Eurocharged Tune, this will benefit the most. For now I will use a K&N filter I had right before i got the Gruppe M intake.


Sway bars are still on the pending items. Since I got that exhaust, the sway bars will have to wait till I have extra cash for it. Also waiting for a sale or something for them. lol.

[derbo]

AFE Intake or Eurocharged Tune?


Which would be better right now? :)

[danewilson77]

AFE Intake or Eurocharged Tune?


Which would be better right now? :)

AFE intake then Eurocharged tune.

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[cyberkaa]

AFE Intake or Eurocharged Tune?


Which would be better right now? :)

2JZ swap with nawwwwws..

[Vas]

Neither. Save up for an S54 swap

[derbo]

Oh you guys are so silly. :)

I started to take apart my interior to do some changes.

As some have read in the Bluetooth thread, I bought an 2005 TCU from a M3 on eBay. The TCU came in and I installed it in the trunk. I still missing the Bluetooth antenna and bracket and I should be able to sync my phone soon.

While I was taking apart the center console, I decided to remove the DICE kit from my car. I no longer have a 4S and opt to replace the DICE kit with a more universal AUX kit.


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[Avetiso]

Ahh, those center AC vents. I got so frustrated with mine today that I smashed them in with the butt of my Maglite. Felt great. (they were already cracked)

[derbo]

AFE intake then Eurocharged tune.

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Thanks for a true response. LOL. I ordered the AFE.


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[derbo]

Thanks for a true response. LOL. I ordered the AFE.

Those I do need a 10sec car for racewars 2jZ


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[derbo]

Ahh, those center AC vents. I got so frustrated with mine today that I smashed them in with the butt of my Maglite. Felt great. (they were already cracked)


Sometimes I secretly go to junkyards to hit stuff. :)






I ordered a bluetooth antenna and bracket as well as an AUX kit from TISCHER. I also ordered an AFE intake as well. Both are on the way. Hopefully by beginning of next week and I can deal with adding the VO to the car for Bluetooth. :)

[trancenation]

What kind of Gains are you anticipating from the afe intake itself?

[Avetiso]

What kind of Gains are you anticipating to gain from the afe intake itself?

50hp minimum.

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[trancenation]

5hp minimum.

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Think you included an extra 0! Haha

[derbo]

What kind of Gains are you anticipating from the afe intake itself?

Jay,

I don't expect anything earth shattering but I believe it will be beneficial when I set up a Eurocharge tune with Seth.

[derbo]

My AFE intake came in today right when I shipped out Charlie's (new to him) Gruppe M intake.

Of course this meant I did a same day install.

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I also took a look at the headlights as BP mentioned that there was no drilling involved for the city lights modification. To my dismay, I see this. Plastic requiring drilling. :(

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My Bluetooth antenna and AUX kit comes in tomorrow. Hopefully I can finish up the car on Sunday and confirm the Bluetooth works.

I already wrote $639 VO into the modules with NCSExpert but I could not communicate with the TCU. I decided to open GT1 and of course the virtual machine goes into a kernel panic when I want to use it for diagnostics! Argh. I guess I'll have to wait for the Bluetooth antenna to arrive to see if it will work or not.

It's getting late and I'm calling quits for tonight since I have work in a few hours.

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[az3579]

Why would yours require drilling? My holes were just plugged up with twist caps that were removable... do you have AL or ZKW headlights?

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[derbo]

Why would yours require drilling? My holes were just plugged up with twist caps that were removable... do you have AL or ZKW headlights?

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AL. I should've remember that AL and ZKW are massively different.


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[derbo]

Small update:

I installed an auxiliary kit to replace my DICE kit to be little more universal.
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I also attempted to retrofit the Bluetooth TCU I got from eBay. Unfortunately the TCU is unresponsive to INPA so I opted to open it up and since I saw some crystals on the edge. To my dismay, I see this. I attacked it with some circuit board cleaner and the TCU still remains unresponsive. I messaged the eBay member I purchased it to see what he can do. If not I will dispute with PayPal/ eBay. :/

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[Avetiso]

Damn, sorry to hear.

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[trancenation]

That's terrible to hear. Hopefully you and the seller can work out a fair arrangement.


-Jay

[az3579]

Is it me or is that fried?

[derbo]

Is it me or is that fried?

It looks like liquid damage to me. Like tap water on circuit board damage.


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[trancenation]

Maybe the unit is from a flood damaged car.

-Jay

[alexandre]

Sucks. I'd file the dispute right away - it won't affect anything other than block the funds in the seller's account right away (he can still issue a refund). You never know...

[az3579]

Sucks. I'd file the dispute right away - it won't affect anything other than block the funds in the seller's account right away (he can still issue a refund). You never know...

Working with the seller first before filing a dispute is the most amicable way to resolve an issue. :)

http://24.media.tumblr.com/33102f3a477a55a1f694c991009392f5/tumblr_mmcw8mofwG1r5xzspo1_400.jpg

[derbo]

I contacted the seller and he responded with a full refund already. I provided pictures of the TCU and it was enough evidence for him to refund my money. I am shipping back the TCU to him and happy he was a great seller willing to take the responsibility that it wasnt working. I still have faith in Ebay :)


Now I am looking for the 455 Bluetooth TCU. Perhaps I'll just order it from getbmwparts for $338...

[derbo]

While I am refraining from paying full pop for a 455 TCU for just bluetooth, I started to play with the AUX input.

As mentioned in a previous thread, I wanted audio line out to the AUX while be able to charge the phone. I have somewhat a terrible solution at the moment:


BMW iPod Cable:
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to a Apple Lightning 30-pin Adapter.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31sgHSkZ7UL._SX300_.jpg



One odd thing happened when I ended plugging both the USB and the AUX together. The AUX disappeared from the radio modes! It only occurs when the phone is powered. I suspect that when the phone is powered, somehow the AUX line is getting power and shorting out causing the radio to think it's no longer connected.

It almost sounds like there is a ground loop and I need to add in a ground loop isolator. I'll think more about it tomorrow, but I bet that will solve the problem.

[johnrando]

Glad to hear the seller took care of the issue. GL on the cable setup.

[derbo]

Glad to hear the seller took care of the issue. GL on the cable setup.

Thanks rando :) I honestly didn't expect a refund at all.


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[derbo]

It turns out using a regular 3.5mm male to male cable and apple official lightning cable still causes the AUX to suddenly disappear. I really suspect the audio line's ground somehow is shorting making the BMW "AUX Check" think there is nothing plugged into the line-in.

It definitely looks like a ground loop isolator will be the solution to this.

[alexandre]

Yup - I had the same issue and that's what fixed it. I hardwired it behind the sunglass compartment so it's super clean now!

[derbo]

Yup - I had the same issue and that's what fixed it. I hardwired it behind the sunglass compartment so it's super clean now!

Sounds great! What ground loop isolator did you get?

[alexandre]

Just a $6 eBay one. I didn't notice a change in quality vs the OEM aux only. Your call if you wanna get something more beefy.

Cut both plugs off the GLI, and cut your OEM aux in the middle, and wire everything together. It's been like that for a year with no issues!

[derbo]

Just a $6 eBay one. I didn't notice a change in quality vs the OEM aux only. Your call if you wanna get something more beefy.

Cut both plugs off the GLI, and cut your OEM aux in the middle, and wire everything together. It's been like that for a year with no issues!

Thanks. I will take a look. I was going to look into getting ferrite cores as well.


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[derbo]

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Drove the BMW to work today. It feels good to drive it after a few weeks of the Prius.

The AFE intake is significantly quieter than the Gruppe M. I can't even hear it over the TSE3. The Gruppe M was able to be louder than the TSE3 before which is good n bad. LOL. Charlie will love it since he wants loud all over.

I'm also looking into getting 7" Swift springs as the rear looks a little too low and my adjustment on the coilover perch is close to the top already.


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[trancenation]

Car is looking good! Are you still working at a dealership?


-Jay

[derbo]

Car is looking good! Are you still working at a dealership?


-Jay

Thanks Jay. I quit a year ago to pursue a career is ASIC design.


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[trancenation]

Congrats: don't really know much about the ASIC industry, but it looks like a lot of circuits material involved.


-Jay

[johnrando]

Good stuff! Car's looking good too.

[derbo]

Good stuff! Car's looking good too.



Congrats: don't really know much about the ASIC industry, but it looks like a lot of circuits material involved.


-Jay


Thanks guys.


Jay,

Basically I convert logic designs (code) to physical chips layouts that get sent to the foundry.



I went to dinner with Kalim today and a good discussion about the next details on the car. :evil

[trancenation]

Thanks guys.


Jay,

Basically I convert logic designs (code) to physical chips layouts that get sent to the foundry.



I went to dinner with Kalim today and a good discussion about the next details on the car. :evil

Kalim is a great guy! He did some coding for me last month and is a very knowledgeable individual.

Considering S54 swap perhaps? Haha


-Jay

[derbo]

Jay,

He's been bugging me to do it for awhile now. It was him who made me consider the M3 swap cause it would be easier to use it with a S54 down the line. :facepalm

[Vas]

Enough of the zhp. Let's talk about the prius :) lol

[derbo]

Enough of the zhp. Let's talk about the prius :) lol



BOOYAH. 14,000 miles since April. Right on track with BP's yearly mileage.

[Hermes]

BOOYAH. 14,000 miles since April. Right on track with BP's yearly mileage.

How is this possible... SF is all of 49 sq mi. SD is 4200 and I'm only at about 10k since Jan for the E21 (with many many miles on the E46 and E38 as well)

[derbo]

How is this possible... SF is all of 49 sq mi. SD is 4200 and I'm only at about 10k since Jan for the E21 (with many many miles on the E46 and E38 as well)


I commute to San jose (114mile round trip) for work. Also my girlfriend lives near berkeley (land of prii) and thats about 50mile round trip. I do alot of driving. :) I'm just glad its not on the BMW and on the Prius.

[Hermes]

Makes sense, I assumed you spend most of your time in the City. Your Yota is basically the equivalent of my E21, a car that I can just dump miles onto. I do a min of 79 miles a day just to/from work so beaters are the way to go to save miles on the ZHP! Mine not be as efficient as yours, but still more than the modified 3.0 will accomplish on it's best day in my topography

[derbo]

Makes sense, I assumed you spend most of your time in the City. Your Yota is basically the equivalent of my E21, a car that I can just dump miles onto. I do a min of 79 miles a day just to/from work so beaters are the way to go to save miles on the ZHP! Mine not be as efficient as yours, but still more than the modified 3.0 will accomplish on it's best day in my topography

I didn't want another project so what car would be the car I would not waste money on? A Prius. with EPA doing 56mpg, BT audio, and keyless entry. Sure I'm spending like in the $20k+ but I have peace of mind that the car will work and I dont have to deal with it.

[Hermes]

Mine cost me $1400. Another $1k to get street legal, $1500 to get it suspension/safety wise decent. Now my friends are trying to get me to dump tons of money to make it fast. One guy wants me to do S14 2.3 crank/rods, the other wants me to go 6cyl. Either way, way more than I paid for the car.

[UdubBadger]

AFE Intake or Eurocharged Tune?


Which would be better right now? :)
AFe will be key in unlocking more power with tuning.


AFE intake then Eurocharged tune.

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However.... He can always get tune, save up for AFe then retune for free.

;)



Goin' HAM mobile

[Hermes]

^I need to deal with this. I want to eventually get the Dinan overbore TB, but I have enough mods to honestly need a tune to just run decent.

Seth, I'll send you a message

[derbo]

AFe will be key in unlocking more power with tuning.


However.... He can always get tune, save up for AFe then retune for free.

;)



Goin' HAM mobile

Thanks Seth. I bought the AFE first. :)


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[derbo]

Mine cost me $1400. Another $1k to get street legal, $1500 to get it suspension/safety wise decent. Now my friends are trying to get me to dump tons of money to make it fast. One guy wants me to do S14 2.3 crank/rods, the other wants me to go 6cyl. Either way, way more than I paid for the car.

I totally understand. If I had the time I would have went this route. Unfortunately I needed a car ready to go and I didn't have time to search for a good example to buy.


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[derbo]

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My daily "beater"
2013 Prius II
JDM Toyota window visors
35% tint.
HID 4300K pnp kit (hate it's not a retrofit but it works well with the factory projectors)
Hub cap delete (what what)
LED license plate bulbs
Carmate storage tray.

NO more mods!!!!



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[Avetiso]

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My daily "beater"
2013 Prius II
JDM Toyota window visors
35% tint.
HID 4300K pnp kit (hate it's not a retrofit but it works well with the factory projectors)
Hub cap delete (what what)
LED license plate bulbs
Carmate storage tray.

NO more mods!!!!



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Hellaflush

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[az3579]

Drop that Prius like it's hot.



And on track with my mileage? You cheat! You work that far away! I work harder for my miles because 95% of the miles are "I drive because I FEEL LIKE IT" miles! :biggrin