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[san]

Haha I was thinking the same. I'm still set on purchasing a set of Apex Arc8's though.

Any particular reason?? Or just looks??


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[cakM3]

Yup, I have read both ur project threads from beginning to end... And they look so good on the ///M and Zhp...


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Loved the look of BBS CH wheels on your ZHP They really pop out against a very dark color Caught myself drooling just a bit

[squashman702]

Don't worry, I strapped the board down after. Need (want) a fairing for the rack .

[TigerTater]

Don't worry, I strapped the board down after. Need (want) a fairing for the rack .

Nice. The ZHP looks so at home with a nice rack on top! Just adds to the sportiness

[BMWCurves]

Any particular reason?? Or just looks??

The BBS CH's and the Apex ARC-8's both look very good and suit our cars quite well in my opinion. Even so, there are two reasons I'm planning to go with the ARC-8's over the CH's.

1. Weight: The ARC-8's in 18x8.5" weigh around 18.5 lbs. The BBS wheels in the same size are something like 24-25 lbs, which is pretty close to the stock 135's (26-27 lbs). Years ago my father bought his NA Miata and I got to drive it around for a while before he swapped to a set of smaller diameter BBS wheels that weighed a lot less. The difference in handling was night and day. Where bumps used to unsettle the car, it was now planted over those same bumps. It used to be easy to break the back end loose, now it handles neutral like a go-kart. I'm hoping that getting a lighter wheel will have a similar effect on my car. I also plan to get new rubber (Continential ExtremeContact DW) when I get my wheels which should shed another couple of pounds over my current Toyo tires. Finally, I purchased a set of BMW Performance drilled rotors a while ago which supposedly save 3 lbs in each corner in the front and about 0.5 lbs in each corner of the rear. Combine all of those and I should drop about 13-5 lbs per corner and hopefully gain some improved handling/ride.
2. Price: ARC-8's new are $289 a wheel, not including shipping. New BBS CH's are something like $400-500 new. I'm sure I could find them used for cheaper, but I'd like to have new wheels. The added benefit of "saving" (relative) some money is that I (hopefully) won't be forced to sell my set of 135s. Finally, although I am perfectly happy spending money on making my car look good, I prefer to improve its performance first, so to me the $1200 spent on Apex's will feel like money more well spent than the $2,000 for new BBS' that weigh only slightly less than our stock wheels.

Those are my priorities, but for other people it can very well be different! Just my thoughts.

[az3579]

1. Weight: The ARC-8's in 18x8.5" weigh around 18.5 lbs. The BBS wheels in the same size are something like 24-25 lbs, which is pretty close to the stock 135's (26-27 lbs). Years ago my father bought his NA Miata and I got to drive it around for a while before he swapped to a set of smaller diameter BBS wheels that weighed a lot less. The difference in handling was night and day. Where bumps used to unsettle the car, it was now planted over those same bumps. It used to be easy to break the back end loose, now it handles neutral like a go-kart. I'm hoping that getting a lighter wheel will have a similar effect on my car. I also plan to get new rubber (Continential ExtremeContact DW) when I get my wheels which should shed another couple of pounds over my current Toyo tires. Finally, I purchased a set of BMW Performance drilled rotors a while ago which supposedly save 3 lbs in each corner in the front and about 0.5 lbs in each corner of the rear. Combine all of those and I should drop about 13-5 lbs per corner and hopefully gain some improved handling/ride.

They really don't make that big of a difference. I would know; I swap back and forth between 17-18lb Kosei K1's and my CH's all the time.

[slater]

Nice. The ZHP looks so at home with a nice rack on top! Just adds to the sportiness

yeah, it kinda does. after our camping trip recently, i had removed the thule carrier but had not taken the thule bars off yet, and my 8-year old son said, "dad, let's just leave those on, it looks so cool!" haha.

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They really don't make that big of a difference. I would know; I swap back and forth between 17-18lb Kosei K1's and my CH's all the time.

but how heavy are your race tires??

seriously though, i notice a major difference between my summer (50lb wheel + tire weight) and winter (41lb wheel + tire weight) wheels. the suspension reacts faster and the car feels lighter on its feet with the winters.

i am a sensitive dude.



peter

[Vas]

Removing rotating mass and un-sprung weight is always a good thing.

[az3579]

but how heavy are your race tires??

They feel a lot lighter to pick up. I just don't notice much of a difference in the way the car feels between the two sets, not "enough" of a difference I should say.

You guys sure it isn't just the Placebo effect or something? lol

[NoVAphotog]

yeah, it kinda does. after our camping trip recently, i had removed the thule carrier but had not taken the thule bars off yet, and my 8-year old son said, "dad, let's just leave those on, it looks so cool!" haha.




but how heavy are your race tires??

seriously though, i notice a major difference between my summer (50lb wheel + tire weight) and winter (41lb wheel + tire weight) wheels. the suspension reacts faster and the car feels lighter on its feet with the winters.

i am a sensitive dude.



peter

I notice this as well going to the 44's and the Blizzaks...but I think it's more of the difference between staggered and square for me.