Looking for opinions on a square setup

[tkundhi]

I'm investing options for a square setup for summer tires. Being able to rotate is a must. The tires will be extreme or max performance Michelin, Bridgestone, Continental or Dunlops. They will be used on the street for 7 months plus 12-16 track days per year. Suspension is 100% stock. I'm willing to consider spacers and fender rolling. But prefer not to do either. Here's what I'm considering. I'm interested if anyone has these fitment with these sized tires. Links to pictures would be appreciated.

VMR V710 18x8.5 et45 22.5lb w/ 245/40 18 or 255/35 18
VMR VB3 18x8.5 et40 23lb w/ 245/40 18 or 255/35 18
Avant Garde Type M310 18x9 et38 23.5lb w/ 245/40 18 or 255/35 18
Avant Garde Type M359 18x8.5 et35 23.5lb w/ 245/40 18 or 255/35 18
APEX EC7 18x9 et42 20.75lb w/ 245/40 18 or 255/35 18
APEX EC7 18x8.5 et35 20.1lb w/ 245/40 18 or 255/35 18
APEX ARC8 17x9 et42 17.25lb w/ 255/40 17
D-Force LTW5 17x9 et41 16.6 lb w/ 255/40 17

Thx,

t.

[derbo]

ARC8 or LTW5 gets my vote.

Tire wise with 16 track days a year, I would pick,

Dunlop Star Spec II, Hankook RS3, or Bridgestone RE11A as the main 3 to look for a great track tire that is still somewhat streetable.

[tkundhi]

Thanks Derek. FWIW, I already own the LTW5s, I'm just not sure how I feel about them on the ZHP. I like the centers of the other multiple spoke wheels more than the ARC8. What fitment are your ARC8s?

I've gone with the Dunlops for my last two sets. First the Star Spec I, then Star Spec II. They got a little loud towards the end of year two. I was thinking about trying the Pilot Super Sports or the Contis. But that decision will come after the wheels. Not all the tires are available in all the sizes.

The ZHP is primarily my wife's DD. But it will be my track car for at least this year.

t.

[JKO_ZHP]

No Avant Garde M359s? I would not recommend VMRs for track and daily driving use, at least not after what I heard: VMR wheels are gravity-cast. That is ok but all BMW wheels are at least low-pressure cast (a step above gravity cast) because it is their standard. It would imply that our stock wheels are already stronger than VMR wheels.

Avant Gardes are low-pressure cast, so they are at least on par with our factory style 135 BMW wheels.

[JupiterBMW]

JKO raises a good point about wheel build as well... I've not heard the best thing about VMRs in terms of this either. For what its worth, I've got the AG M359s...

Also, in terms of going square. I'm square right now... My specs are as follows...

18x8.5, ET35... The wheels aren't that wide, but its a fair amount of offset, especially up front. Overall, my wheels stick out 15mm more than stock in the back, and about 18mm up front, which is considerable. I'm running 245/35-18s all around, which is a good blend between the stock sizes. Considerable rubber up front, without being too little out back.

In terms of suspension, I'm running H&R springs up front, but otherwise, all stock. The car doesn't rub at all, but I've already rolled my fenders. Personally, I would do that if I were you, and shave the rear bumper bolts in the rear wheel wells. It'll help quite a bit.

Some of the choices you've posted sound pretty good, others will definitely need some rolling to make them fit, but all is possible.

As for the look, check out my sig for a link to my project thread. I just posted some updated pics, so check it out for an idea of what it'll look like.


Good luck.

[cakM3]

ARC8 or LTW5 gets my vote.

Tire wise with 16 track days a year, I would pick,

Dunlop Star Spec II, Hankook RS3, or Bridgestone RE11A as the main 3 to look for a great track tire that is still somewhat streetable.

I agree with Derek here

[Crickett]

Knowledgable folks in here, t. I would also recommend playing around with the calculator at WillTheyFit.com as you consider different sizes/offsets/spacers/etc..

BTW, I am also square on 4x 18x8" ET47 stock 135Ms, 245/35ZR18 Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3, stock suspension, and no fender modification.

[danewilson77]

As for the look, check out my sig...

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[ELCID86]

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I was thinking #3 Dinan, but I like it!

[johnrando]

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Ah, great idea! Or, move down the street.