Modern cars SUCK

[Reasoned1]

I agree about the inevitability of change, but talking about the pros and cons of new versus old cars seems a perfectly legitimate topic for an auto forum—particularly one dedicated to a vintage model. I hate to say it, but you’re sounding a little like a whiny millennial.

[slater]

My "issue" with modern cars is that they can be fun but not look good, or vice versa, or don't come in manual transmission, which for me is basically a must in a sporty sedan. If the Audi S3, or even better, RS3, came in 6spd that would be my definite target car in the future. Damn you, Audi. Finding a newer car that does not look like it ate the Michelin man is also tricky.

agreed on the vice-versa... they look good but aren't fun. and no manuals.

longterm, looks like i need to find me a low-mile 2011 M3 sedan and be prepared to have it forever. that or a 997 GT3...

[Sockethead]

Oh they can be fun! That same F30 we took to the drag strip, put a JB1 on it and ran low to mid 13s. We were beating V8 mustangs and they were pretty pissed about that. The 8 speed transmission had a lot to do with it. the N26 married to the 8 speed is a pretty awesome combo

[Fried_Chicken]

I'm just saying that this argument about modern cars will constantly be brought up in discussions and does nothing productive. This thread does nothing productive but alienate those (such as myself) who like the new cars. It's getting old. I can start a thread about how much I hate crossovers, electric cars, and autonomous vehicles, but that wont change a darned thing. It's gonna happen and I have to get used to it, in the same way that all the stuff being discussed in this tread is going to happen. E46's won't last forever, people will have to buy a newer car at some point, so they might as well get used to it.

Please, let's just put our effort into something that matters, like bettering the cars we do have, or discussing ones we do ​want. A comment here and there, whatever, but a thread? Come on.

Don't resign yourself to a fate of shitty cars. A perfect free market means businesses live and die for the satiation of consumer demand.

The discussion we're having isn't mere whining. We do not live in a perfect market, and we never will. However right now a huge reason for this is the stupidity of the consumer that for the most part does not know what they are missing.

It's the hubris of the corporations to think anything they do is automatically right, and the crap that's happening now has taken a life of its own.
I've outlined what I want in a new car, I'm not alone, and I'm not a luddite hating on technological advances. Saying the electric car is overdue is quite literally the understatement of the century, and I'm cautiously excited about where it will go.

Also not all new cars are bad, but from the Germans at least, the newer greats seem to come almost as accidents (looking at you: BMW 1M).

I have every desire to go forward, as long as forward means better.

[cakM3]

agreed on the vice-versa... they look good but aren't fun. and no manuals.

longterm, looks like i need to find me a low-mile 2011 M3 sedan and be prepared to have it forever. that or a 997 GT3...

I would go for the 997 myself Peter but then I'm biased

[derbo]

agreed on the vice-versa... they look good but aren't fun. and no manuals.

longterm, looks like i need to find me a low-mile 2011 M3 sedan and be prepared to have it forever. that or a 997 GT3...

I like that thought-process. Shame the 997.2 GT3RS prices are coming down anytime soon.

[san]

I like that thought-process. Shame the 997.2 GT3RS prices are coming down anytime soon.

I’m sure you meant “aren’t”? Lol

Don’t think the prices for the Porsche gt cars ever comes down. So I keep looking for 997.2 c2s, which I’m hoping I can own in a few years time...


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[derbo]

I’m sure you meant “aren’t”? Lol

Don’t think the prices for the Porsche gt cars ever comes down. So I keep looking for 997.2 c2s, which I’m hoping I can own in a few years time...


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Yes, sorry. I meant "aren't." Oops.

The whole porsche ordeal makes me not want to get one...cause I will never be able to afford it.

[johnrando]

I'm more of a Model T guy.

Lmao

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[NYRhockey]

So thinking more about S3's, are 6MT conversions doable? with Audi's AWD system's it'd probably make it difficult or too expensive?