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    Contis were never known as sticky tires. They are however good tires if you are not engaging in auto sport activity because of these reasons.

    1. Better than average sidewall support
    2. Among the similar spec tires in terms of width they are the smallest giving the slightly more stretched look which adds directional stability.
    3. The continuous tread design produces a very pleasant and smooth ride.
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    gotta pay to play... I think stock set up is the way to go, especially if you track 3x a yr. You won't get 35k miles out of them though, if you need to you should probably look at another set of tires. These are the BEST performance A/S out there though, hands down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UdubBadger View Post
    These are the BEST performance A/S out there though, hands down.
    Depends on what you're looking for. In street performance, the Kumho Ectsa 4x are rated essentially the same as the DWS by Tire Rack.

    In dry track performance, the Kumhos spank the DWS in every category.

    The Contis are better in wet track performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kayger12 View Post
    Depends on what you're looking for. In street performance, the Kumho Ectsa 4x are rated essentially the same as the DWS by Tire Rack.

    In dry track performance, the Kumhos spank the DWS in every category.

    The Contis are better in wet track performance.
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    I'm a huge proponent of the dws's. I've used them in snow and they are some of the best all around AS tires I've ever had. Haven't used them on the track or anything like that though, so I can't speak to how they perform there.


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    Found the numbers from my pre-purchase research:

    Dry Track--------Kumho 4x------------ContiDWS

    Cornering-----------7.7-------------------7.4
    Steering------------7.83------------------7.58
    Braking-------------7.66------------------7.52
    Predictability-------7.51------------------7.46
    Overall-------------7.68------------------7.49

    Slalom (Seconds)----5.19-----------------5.25
    Lap (Seconds)------30.99----------------31.89
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryankokesh View Post
    I'm a huge proponent of the dws's. I've used them in snow and they are some of the best all around AS tires I've ever had.
    This is what I'm waiting to see with the Kumhos. Zero data or info on them in the snow. This is the first winter since they became available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kayger12 View Post
    Depends on what you're looking for. In street performance, the Kumho Ectsa 4x are rated essentially the same as the DWS by Tire Rack.

    In dry track performance, the Kumhos spank the DWS in every category.

    The Contis are better in wet track performance.
    IMO that is...
    I always have to factor in the WINTER stats to the A/S category. OP might not care as much as I do.

    Good call on those Kuhmos too - forgot about them.
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    Yeah-- jury is still out on the Kumhos in the snow. Curious to see how they do. DWS have great snow reviews-- doubt the Kumhos would rate as well.
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    The DWS is very good in the snow I'll give them that, but it feels like a snow tire. I am talking about the Pirelli P Zero All Season, which is its name. It got 2nd behind the RE970AS in the most recent test. It did have lower speed ratings but they've been revised. The Pirelli has the fast track and slalom times of the test.

    The DWS, in my own opinion, is good in the snow because it is basically a snow tire with a very high tread wear rating, from my experience. Steering feel is quite vague. It is not an engaging tire. It may be rated for 186mph but I certainly would not be comfortable going that speed on that tire.

    The Dunlop Winter Sport 3D (debatably the best dry weather snow tire) has hire cornering limits, feels more playful and tracks way better than the DWS.

    The DWS got 4th of four in the most recent Tire Rack test.

    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=147
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