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  1. #101
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    Here is a similar graph from data taken in July of 2010.
    It looks like the thermostst starts to open at about 180F ~ 82C A little easier to see in this graph.

    Red is coolant temp in engine
    orange is oil temp
    blue is coolant temp at the radiator outlet
    green is engine speed
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  2. #102
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    My 2003 is 02/2003 production with the MS43 DME.
    Original thermostat.
    Stewart pump, standard pullies.
    Red Line water wetter / 50/50 BMW coolant.
    Dinan Stage 2 software
    Auto trans
    Last edited by shanneba; 03-28-2012 at 05:31 PM.

  3. #103
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    Actually, I don't see what you mean, when the red line reaches ~150F, there is a slow down in the rate temperature rise (opened t-stat?), and then the rate is faster and then it plateaus at ~190.

    I don't see anything pointing to 180F.
    325i, 2005, 5MT, Silvergrey, leatherette, Sport package; CDV delete, KONI STR-T & KYB Excel-G, Weisslichts, Stewart H2O pump

    328i, 2010, 6MT, Spacegrey, dakota leather, M-sport packages; has a 330 intake but no tune - yet
    http://s900.photobucket.com/user/othibau/media/Junesig.jpg.html][IMG]http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac208/othibau/Junesig.jpg

  4. #104
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    The blue line, radiator outlet temp, doesn't start to rise until the engine temp hits 180F indicating coolant is flowing through the radiator to the lower hose.
    It could be opening a little before 180F, and it takes until 180F for the pump to circulate coolant equal to the volume in the radiator.

  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oli77 View Post
    Numbers are in Celsius, once plateau is reached.

    Oli77 [2005 2.5L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 96
    Danewilson77 [2004 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 95
    Telijah [2001 3.0L M54 DME-MS43] : 88 (suspects open T-stat)
    edlvrt [2004 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 96
    MrMaico [2004 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1]: 96
    Spencers [2001 2.5L M54 DME-MS43] : 90
    LivesNearCostco [2003 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 91 (old T-stat)
    LivesNearCostco [2003 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 95 (new T-stat)
    derbo [2004 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 95
    GT172I [2004 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 96
    shanneba [2003 3.0L M54 DME-MS43] : 89 (when in 2003?)
    Hochspannung [2005 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 87 that's the outlier, unless these are the M car values.
    Kayger12 [2005 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 95
    RITmusic2k [2004 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 83 T-stat work ongoing
    terraphantm [xxxx 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 95 provide year on non-M
    Hermes: [xxxx 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] = 95 provide year please

    Please check if I got these right.
    Mine was a 2003 ZHP

  6. #106
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    Numbers are in Celsius, once plateau is reached.

    Oli77 [2005 2.5L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 96
    Danewilson77 [2004 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 95
    Telijah [2001 3.0L M54 DME-MS43] : 88 (suspects open T-stat)
    edlvrt [2004 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 96
    MrMaico [2004 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1]: 96
    Spencers [2001 2.5L M54 DME-MS43] : 90
    LivesNearCostco [2003 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 91 (old T-stat)
    LivesNearCostco [2003 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 95 (new T-stat)
    derbo [2004 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 95
    GT172I [2004 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 96
    shanneba [2003 3.0L M54 DME-MS43] : 89 (running water wetter and stewart pump)
    Hochspannung [2005 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 87 that's the outlier, unless these are the M car values.
    Kayger12 [2005 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 95
    RITmusic2k [2004 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 83 T-stat work ongoing
    terraphantm [2003 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 95
    Hermes: [xxxx 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] = 95 provide year please
    325i, 2005, 5MT, Silvergrey, leatherette, Sport package; CDV delete, KONI STR-T & KYB Excel-G, Weisslichts, Stewart H2O pump

    328i, 2010, 6MT, Spacegrey, dakota leather, M-sport packages; has a 330 intake but no tune - yet
    http://s900.photobucket.com/user/othibau/media/Junesig.jpg.html][IMG]http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac208/othibau/Junesig.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by shanneba View Post
    The blue line, radiator outlet temp, doesn't start to rise until the engine temp hits 180F indicating coolant is flowing through the radiator to the lower hose.
    It could be opening a little before 180F, and it takes until 180F for the pump to circulate coolant equal to the volume in the radiator.

    OK totally see that now. Thanks, clear as a bell. ~180 F
    325i, 2005, 5MT, Silvergrey, leatherette, Sport package; CDV delete, KONI STR-T & KYB Excel-G, Weisslichts, Stewart H2O pump

    328i, 2010, 6MT, Spacegrey, dakota leather, M-sport packages; has a 330 intake but no tune - yet
    http://s900.photobucket.com/user/othibau/media/Junesig.jpg.html][IMG]http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac208/othibau/Junesig.jpg

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    Numbers are in Celsius, once plateau is reached.

    Oli77 [2005 2.5L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 96
    Danewilson77 [2004 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 95
    Telijah [2001 3.0L M54 DME-MS43] : 88 (suspects open T-stat)
    edlvrt [2004 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 96
    MrMaico [2004 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1]: 96
    Spencers [2001 2.5L M54 DME-MS43] : 90
    LivesNearCostco [2003 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 91 (old T-stat)
    LivesNearCostco [2003 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 95 (new T-stat)
    derbo [2004 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 95
    GT172I [2004 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 96
    shanneba [2003 3.0L M54 DME-MS43] : 89 (running water wetter and stewart pump)
    Hochspannung [2005 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 87 that's the outlier, unless these are the M car values.
    Kayger12 [2005 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 95
    RITmusic2k [2004 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 83 T-stat work ongoing
    terraphantm [2003 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] : 95
    Hermes: [2005 3.0L M54 DME-MS45.1] = 95

  9. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oli77 View Post
    OK totally see that now. Thanks, clear as a bell. ~180 F

    But that's an MS43 DME. The post 3/2003 MS45.1 (ZHP etc.) opens at 95 or 96 degrees.

  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by terraphantm View Post
    I'm not sure what conditions makes it do so though
    During harder running, higher revs, the DME turns on the stat heater to open it at lower temps. I see my temp drop 10 to 15 degrees F every time I run through a few gears at revs above 5000 or so.

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