The Random E46/ZHP Question Thread

[704sw]

Quick question: how many people downshift in day to day life when coming to a stop?

For me it depends on traffic (read: traffic dictates if I’m having fun. The turn lane into my neighborhood is on a decline, so I like to rev match into third, engine brake down the hill, and cook it through the turn. I typically only downshift/engine brake with third/fourth in my daily driving.

Edit: but yea pads are obviously a lot cheaper than a clutch.

[ZHPizza]

Quick question: how many people downshift in day to day life when coming to a stop? Dumb question I know, but my brother claims it’s better to neutral brake than engine brake, says it’s better to replace brakes than a clutch. Opinions?


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Your brother is technically correct, but I still review match downshift through the gears almost every stop since I sharked. It's just too much fun when the throttle is responsive.

[Hornung418]

Rev matching is not going to kill a clutch. It does the opposite. Using the brakes and the engine in unison will keep the car in the right gear for acceleration.

It's not about revving to 6k and then adding the brakes. It's about slowing the car in gear to 2k and then shifting to the lower gear and repeating.

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[L0veZHP]

I’m getting a manual swap next year.. keep talking guys lol I’m here reading everything and taking everything in. Anyone want to mention some mods I can do to a manual and a clutch while we talking about this? lol


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[danewilson77]

Quick question: how many people downshift in day to day life when coming to a stop? Dumb question I know, but my brother claims it’s better to neutral brake than engine brake, says it’s better to replace brakes than a clutch. Opinions?


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I downshift all of the time.

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[slater]

Your brother is technically correct, but I still review match downshift through the gears almost every stop since I sharked. It's just too much fun when the throttle is responsive.

same and same. and same. rev-match double-clutch downshifting is one of my favorite things.

[BMWCurves]

Yup, I do it plenty (even more now that I have my UUC TSE3 exhaust). From my understanding, if you're rev-matching properly, there's minimal added wear on the clutch, transmission, or the engine itself.

[Hermes]

Use your brakes; they're cheaper than synchros

[cornercarver]

Use your brakes; they're cheaper than synchros

Ditto.

I heel & toe fairly often but only when it has a purpose, and to maintain the skill. If you're just in traffic or coming to a stoplight there's no point. It's easier and cheaper to replace pads and rotors than to fix a transmission.

I don't double-clutch. Modern synchros have made this extra step obsolete. It just puts 2x the amount of wear on the clutch pedal/assembly.

[slater]

Ditto.

I heel & toe fairly often but only when it has a purpose, and to maintain the skill. If you're just in traffic or coming to a stoplight there's no point. It's easier and cheaper to replace pads and rotors than to fix a transmission.

I don't double-clutch. Modern synchros have made this extra step obsolete. It just puts 2x the amount of wear on the clutch pedal/assembly.

there's maybe no point, but hey, i enjoy it. well worth the wear.