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  1. #1
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    Getting ready to buy coilovers - help me decide which ones to get

    Hi guys, my shocks are feeling a bit worn these days, so I figure I may as well upgrade my suspension. Ideally I'd like to place the order within a week. I intend to install them myself (and then find a shop to corner balance it I guess). Ideally I'd like to keep the ride quality about the same as stock or better (I'm driving an M3, so my reference point is a bit stiffer than a ZHP). I don't really care for dropping the car - I doubt I'd lower much more than .5" or so. The car will be street driven, though I won't rule out an HPDE here and there.

    I'm looking at the following 3 options, but I'm open to suggestions. I'd like to keep the grand total under $2000


    1) Bilstein PSS10s. $1595 shipped @ importrp.

    • Pros:
      • Externally adjustable - don't have to remove rear shocks to adjust them.
      • Ride quality is pretty good from what I remember (my friend had an M3 with PSS9s a while back).
      • Lifetime warranty.
      • Does not require camber plates.
      • And the Bilstein shocks are pretty high quality
    • Cons:
      • Not a "complete" kit - have buy rear shock mounts, and have to reuse my front strut mounts.


    2) KW V2s $1869 shipped @ importrp

    • Pros:
      • Supposedly one of the most comfortable coilovers out there
      • the shocks are completely galvanized - they will most likely never rust
      • the kits are "complete" - I should not have to buy anything extra to install them on the car.
      • Does not require camber plates
      • Lifetime Warranty
    • Cons:
      • Almost $300 more than the Bilsteins; rear shocks have to be removed to adjust them


    3) TCKline S/A: $1800 iirc (their website won't load for me right now)
    • Pros:
      • Arguably the best handling coilover at this price point.
      • Linear springs and my choice of spring rate.
      • Lifetime warranty.
    • Cons:
      • Requires camber plates which adds another $400ish (and brings me a bit above my $2000 limit).
      • The kits are essentially off-the-shelf Koni Yellows + custom springs - not sure if that's worth paying a premium for.
      • Ride quality might not be as good as the more street oriented coils (A lot of people at M3F refute this, but I have to take their claims with a grain of salt since a few of the respected members there sell TCK suspension)



    I'm leaning towards the PSS10s. With importRP's prices, they're priced more competitively than the rest. I do have some [albeit limited] experience with them and did like how they rode. And I do like the idea of not having to remove the shocks to adjust them. The M3Forum guys do trash them... but again I'm not sure I trust their opinions. There seems to be some financial motivation for pushing certain brands over others. I know the PSS10s are well respected in other enthusiast circles, including Porsche.

    But I'm not decided. I've never actually ridden in a car with KWs. And everyone does rave about TCK.

    The other way I was thinking of going was to avoid coilovers altogether and go with a complete CSL setup. It would cost me about as much as a set of coilovers. While the CSL does pull amazing times, I suspect the bulk of the difference comes from the tires (Pilot Cups) and then weight. I may eventually buy the CSL front sway bar either way since it's larger than anything I can get aftermarket.

    I am interested in hearing other people's experiences, BUT: I am not interested in H&R Cup Kits, FK coilovers, Raceland, etc... If anyone has experience with the above suspension (or anything else from a reputable company), I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts

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    I personally wouldn't go with kw because the way they valve their shocks along with the fact that the springs aren't linear make them unpredictable under load. Blisteins are always a good option, but i would look into Stance coilovers, which offer a ton more adjustability than Blisteins or kws, Fortune Auto coils which are apparent great from what I hear from time attack people, plus they have custom spring rates and they are serviceable in the US with a great warranty and they dynograph all their coilovers and they come with swift springs. The other option would be bc racing which I don't know a whole bunch about, just the fact that a ton of people run them and love them.

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    Hmm, Stance does look interesting - though it looks like they might be a bit more geared towards the drifting crowd. I wish I could somehow testdrive the various suspension options before committing.

    I'm thinking of sticking with the Bilsteins. Good price, lifetime warranty, monotube shocks, and I can always change the springs out later if i really end up craving more performance.

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    what about ground control?

    http://www.ground-control-store.com/.../II=693/CA=255

    comes with camber plates and RSM and its lifetime as well

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    I LOVE my PSS10s... ride great, easy to adjust and look great. Can't go as low as KWs but I wasn't going for that look anyway. I considered the KWs but I've got bilsteins on every other car I have and have had zero issues so I wanted to not worry about it rather than experiment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bimmeryota View Post
    I LOVE my PSS10s... ride great, easy to adjust and look great. Can't go as low as KWs but I wasn't going for that look anyway. I considered the KWs but I've got bilsteins on every other car I have and have had zero issues so I wanted to not worry about it rather than experiment.
    The PSS10s are what I ended up ordering - I'm sure I'll be happy with them. The wait is going to kill me

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    bilstiens are the best... I had pss9's on my 135i
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    Quote Originally Posted by danewilson77 View Post
    If I wore panties, I'd be dropping them right now.

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